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	<title>Comments on: Jews, Muslims Need a New Playbook in Responding to the Gaza Conflict</title>
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		<title>By: DeaconJack</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeaconJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both peoples have the right to live in dignity and peace. Palestinian suicide bombers indiscriminately strike civilians. Hamas fires rockets deep into Israel that indiscriminately strike civilians. Hamas stores weapons in mosques, schools and other places where innocents gather. Israel responds with disproportionate force, but Hamas would do the same if they could. Blockades never work for the benefit of the civilian population. The only solution, the only hope is is what Eboo suggests. Getting reasonable people on both sides can create a dialogue that should involve more and more people where adversaries can see each other&#039;s humanity, which will in turn disolve hate. The status quo can only escallate into more hatred and it really isn&#039;t the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both peoples have the right to live in dignity and peace. Palestinian suicide bombers indiscriminately strike civilians. Hamas fires rockets deep into Israel that indiscriminately strike civilians. Hamas stores weapons in mosques, schools and other places where innocents gather. Israel responds with disproportionate force, but Hamas would do the same if they could. Blockades never work for the benefit of the civilian population. The only solution, the only hope is is what Eboo suggests. Getting reasonable people on both sides can create a dialogue that should involve more and more people where adversaries can see each other&#39;s humanity, which will in turn disolve hate. The status quo can only escallate into more hatred and it really isn&#39;t the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: jonabark</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonabark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not what is to be expected at all. There was a cease fie in place. Israel Continued to carry out targeted killings (Nov 5 08), and the military embargo which was costing  Gazan lives. Hamas&#039;s reaction was misdirected , but it was basically the same as what Israel claims, that is, the right of self defense.   I think only active nonviolent resistance can work to bring peace, but the logic of self defense is being applied unequally.  According to the logic of self defense, if Iraqis could bomb or otherwise attack America they would be within their rights.  The logic of bombs is always favored by the those with great lethal power and the peace it brings is lopsided. Some prosper and others are disposable. This is not good news.&lt;br&gt;  &lt;br&gt;I think Israel and Americans in particular need to allow others to claim the entitlement to justice, security, homeland etc. that  we claim for ourselves.  Often this means admitting mistakes and accepting that some of what we have claimed for ourselves rightfully belongs to others, or must at least be shared equitably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not what is to be expected at all. There was a cease fie in place. Israel Continued to carry out targeted killings (Nov 5 08), and the military embargo which was costing  Gazan lives. Hamas&#39;s reaction was misdirected , but it was basically the same as what Israel claims, that is, the right of self defense.   I think only active nonviolent resistance can work to bring peace, but the logic of self defense is being applied unequally.  According to the logic of self defense, if Iraqis could bomb or otherwise attack America they would be within their rights.  The logic of bombs is always favored by the those with great lethal power and the peace it brings is lopsided. Some prosper and others are disposable. This is not good news.</p>
<p>I think Israel and Americans in particular need to allow others to claim the entitlement to justice, security, homeland etc. that  we claim for ourselves.  Often this means admitting mistakes and accepting that some of what we have claimed for ourselves rightfully belongs to others, or must at least be shared equitably.</p>
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		<title>By: Cuauhtemoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cuauhtemoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dozens of children, women and young people are being slaughtered  at this moment in Ghaza!  Medical supplies are urgently needed, food, water  and other essentials for life are needed! It is useless to discuss whether Israel is right or not, whether Hamas is right or not. Christians, Muslims or non-religious people---all of us should get to work in order to help the wounded and save as many lives as possible!. Yes it is just as important to have the US, the EU, and the UN act right now and stop the slauhtering. But it just as important to put our imagination  to work in order to send help to the Palestinians suffering people. Now!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dozens of children, women and young people are being slaughtered  at this moment in Ghaza!  Medical supplies are urgently needed, food, water  and other essentials for life are needed! It is useless to discuss whether Israel is right or not, whether Hamas is right or not. Christians, Muslims or non-religious people&#8212;all of us should get to work in order to help the wounded and save as many lives as possible!. Yes it is just as important to have the US, the EU, and the UN act right now and stop the slauhtering. But it just as important to put our imagination  to work in order to send help to the Palestinians suffering people. Now!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Palosaari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palosaari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree- both sides need to change the way they interact; both sides need to reject violence; both sides bear culpability.  But that equanimity can not dissuade us from the reality that Israel bears the greater responsibility, for it has all the power of the state behind it- a state that has one of the strongest militaries in the world.  It is one thing when it is an eye for an eye, a life for a life.  What&#039;s the current death toll in Ghaza, from this past week?  Something like 650?  Most of them civilians.  We&#039;re now going 100 eyes for an eye.  Sure, Hamas shouldn&#039;t be launching rockets, but that in no way justifies Israel&#039;s incredible over-the-top response.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some are arguing that Hamas was elected, and therefore that somehow justifies the very proportionally high death toll of civilians.  These people forget that 50% of the Ghazan population is under 15; 75% under 25.  I&#039;m going to go out on a limb here and say about 100% of those under 15 didn&#039;t vote for Hamas.  Yes, both sides need to change the way they respond; but the focus now needs to be on Israel.  Israel needs to stop killing hundreds of children, and the rest of the world needs to rise up in complete condemnation for these acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree- both sides need to change the way they interact; both sides need to reject violence; both sides bear culpability.  But that equanimity can not dissuade us from the reality that Israel bears the greater responsibility, for it has all the power of the state behind it- a state that has one of the strongest militaries in the world.  It is one thing when it is an eye for an eye, a life for a life.  What&#39;s the current death toll in Ghaza, from this past week?  Something like 650?  Most of them civilians.  We&#39;re now going 100 eyes for an eye.  Sure, Hamas shouldn&#39;t be launching rockets, but that in no way justifies Israel&#39;s incredible over-the-top response.  </p>
<p>Some are arguing that Hamas was elected, and therefore that somehow justifies the very proportionally high death toll of civilians.  These people forget that 50% of the Ghazan population is under 15; 75% under 25.  I&#39;m going to go out on a limb here and say about 100% of those under 15 didn&#39;t vote for Hamas.  Yes, both sides need to change the way they respond; but the focus now needs to be on Israel.  Israel needs to stop killing hundreds of children, and the rest of the world needs to rise up in complete condemnation for these acts.</p>
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		<title>By: neuro_nurse</title>
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		<dc:creator>neuro_nurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only person or group with whom it is impossible to negotiate is that with whom you refuse to negotiate.</description>
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		<title>By: vetcurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>vetcurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When individuals kill it is called murder and they are sent to prison if caught.  When governments kill it is called war and participants are called heroes.&lt;br&gt;I was in an artillary unit in Vietnam.  The first aretillary shot is lucky to be within a couple of hundred yards of what it is shot at, depending on distance, etc.  What is going on in Gaza now is nothing other than indiscriminate slaughter.&lt;br&gt;The U.S. as represented by the Bush administration has no credibility in the Arab world as they give a blank check to Likud and other extremists on the side of Israel.&lt;br&gt;Harry Ried on Sunday&#039;s Meet the Press parroted Bush&#039;s defense of Israel.  They refuse to look past the Palestinian rockets of the past two years.&lt;br&gt;Israel occupied Gaza for 39 years before they withdrew and laid siege to it for the last two years.  As my father taught me, what would you do if you were in their shoes?&lt;br&gt;To change the dynamics, The U.S.  should isolate the extremists on BOTH sides and support the moderates.  To get Israel&#039;s attention, all military aid to Israel should be stopped and they should be told that they have to follow U.N. mandates regarding the treatment of occupied lands, torture and collective punishment.&lt;br&gt;Israel should learn from their past mistakes.  They demonized FATAH and Arafat and ended up with Hamas and Hezballah.  It seems that they are getting much more sympathy from governents like Egypt and Jordan than they get in the Arab streets.  If they keep going they may end with the Muslim Brotherhood running Egypt and some radical group running Jordan.   Their actions are strenghtening their enemies and weakening their support.  They could well win the tactical battles but lose the strategic war.&lt;br&gt;E-mail your congresspersons so they know there is a variety of views on this issue.  Is the fact that we went through a long primary and election season, including all the debates and interviews, without one serious question about Israel/Palestine policy an indication  of the itimidation or our politicians and media by Israel&#039;s support groups?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When individuals kill it is called murder and they are sent to prison if caught.  When governments kill it is called war and participants are called heroes.<br />I was in an artillary unit in Vietnam.  The first aretillary shot is lucky to be within a couple of hundred yards of what it is shot at, depending on distance, etc.  What is going on in Gaza now is nothing other than indiscriminate slaughter.<br />The U.S. as represented by the Bush administration has no credibility in the Arab world as they give a blank check to Likud and other extremists on the side of Israel.<br />Harry Ried on Sunday&#39;s Meet the Press parroted Bush&#39;s defense of Israel.  They refuse to look past the Palestinian rockets of the past two years.<br />Israel occupied Gaza for 39 years before they withdrew and laid siege to it for the last two years.  As my father taught me, what would you do if you were in their shoes?<br />To change the dynamics, The U.S.  should isolate the extremists on BOTH sides and support the moderates.  To get Israel&#39;s attention, all military aid to Israel should be stopped and they should be told that they have to follow U.N. mandates regarding the treatment of occupied lands, torture and collective punishment.<br />Israel should learn from their past mistakes.  They demonized FATAH and Arafat and ended up with Hamas and Hezballah.  It seems that they are getting much more sympathy from governents like Egypt and Jordan than they get in the Arab streets.  If they keep going they may end with the Muslim Brotherhood running Egypt and some radical group running Jordan.   Their actions are strenghtening their enemies and weakening their support.  They could well win the tactical battles but lose the strategic war.<br />E-mail your congresspersons so they know there is a variety of views on this issue.  Is the fact that we went through a long primary and election season, including all the debates and interviews, without one serious question about Israel/Palestine policy an indication  of the itimidation or our politicians and media by Israel&#39;s support groups?</p>
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		<title>By: newcreation1</title>
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		<dc:creator>newcreation1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very grievous to hear of the human toll that this conflict is taking.  Unfortunately, these types of situations are to be expected, given Hamas&#039; apparent habit of interspersing its military resources with the civilian population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very grievous to hear of the human toll that this conflict is taking.  Unfortunately, these types of situations are to be expected, given Hamas&#39; apparent habit of interspersing its military resources with the civilian population.</p>
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		<title>By: newcreation1</title>
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		<dc:creator>newcreation1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erbe, is Israel a religious state?  Or is it a civil democracy?  Doesn&#039;t the state of Israel already offer freedom of religion -- including to the ~15% of its inhabitants who identify as Muslim?  Obviously, the &quot;Law of Return&quot; privileges Jews to move to Israel from all over the world...but is this instance of a special privilege for Jews really enough to make Israel a &quot;religious state?&quot;  Would you agree that Israel is the most free and democratic nation in the entire Middle East?  If not, which Middle Eastern nation would you consider more free and democratic?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The conflict over the land area that is Israel has gone on for quite some time.  Regardless of whether the decision to create the state of Israel in 1948 was a good one, surely the current residents of Israel should not be left defenseless and made to pay (with daily bombings, no less) for a decision that was made before most of them were born.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I maintain that it is impossible for Israel to negotiate with Hamas when Hamas simply wants to wipe them out.  Hamas&#039; behavior has been atrocious.  Israel backed out of Gaza several years ago, and Hamas has thanked them by consistently using the area as a launching pad for rockets that can now reach up to one-eighth of Israel&#039;s territory.  I do not see negotiation with Hamas as any kind of a moral imperative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erbe, is Israel a religious state?  Or is it a civil democracy?  Doesn&#39;t the state of Israel already offer freedom of religion &#8212; including to the ~15% of its inhabitants who identify as Muslim?  Obviously, the &#8220;Law of Return&#8221; privileges Jews to move to Israel from all over the world&#8230;but is this instance of a special privilege for Jews really enough to make Israel a &#8220;religious state?&#8221;  Would you agree that Israel is the most free and democratic nation in the entire Middle East?  If not, which Middle Eastern nation would you consider more free and democratic?</p>
<p>The conflict over the land area that is Israel has gone on for quite some time.  Regardless of whether the decision to create the state of Israel in 1948 was a good one, surely the current residents of Israel should not be left defenseless and made to pay (with daily bombings, no less) for a decision that was made before most of them were born.</p>
<p>I maintain that it is impossible for Israel to negotiate with Hamas when Hamas simply wants to wipe them out.  Hamas&#39; behavior has been atrocious.  Israel backed out of Gaza several years ago, and Hamas has thanked them by consistently using the area as a launching pad for rockets that can now reach up to one-eighth of Israel&#39;s territory.  I do not see negotiation with Hamas as any kind of a moral imperative.</p>
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		<title>By: jonabark</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonabark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Below are the last 3 paragraphs of an article by the British Independent&#039;s reporter in Gaza. Fares Akram described the killing of his father by an Israeli bomb dropped on his father&#039;s farmhouse.&lt;br&gt;&quot;My father, Akrem al-Ghoul, was no militant. Born in Gaza and educated in Egypt, he was a lawyer and a judge who worked for the Palestinian Authority. After Hamas took over, he quit and turned to agriculture. Dad&#039;s father, Fares, who had been driven out of his home in what is now Israeli Ashkelon in 1948, had bought the land in the 1960s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;During the second intifada and until the Israelis withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the farm was taken over by Israeli settlers, but after 2005 we went there every holiday. In Gaza, the only escape is the beach or, if you are lucky enough, the farmland. My father hated what Hamas was doing to Gaza&#039;s legal system, introducing Islamist justice, and he completely opposed violence. He would have worked hard for a just settlement with Israel and a better future for Palestinians. When the PA gained control over the West Bank, he moved to Ramallah to help establish the courts there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My grief carries no desire for revenge, which I know to be always in vain. But, in truth, as a grieving son, I am finding it hard to distinguish between what the Israelis call terrorists and the Israeli pilots and tank crews who are invading Gaza. What is the difference between the pilot who blew my father to pieces and the militant who fires a small rocket? I have no answers but, just as I am to become a father, I have lost my father.&quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-the-death-and-life-of-my-father-1225793.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-...&lt;/a&gt; for full article)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;jonabark&lt;br&gt; This is one of hundreds of examples of the reason for the UN injunctions against collective punishment.  What continues to happen year after year is that the Palestinians who inhabited the region for centuries are violently displaced by Israeli settlements backed by the Israeli army.  Every instance of self defense  and every form of violent resistance by the Palestinians (or other powers  in the 67  war) has been multiplied in Israeli violence against Palestinians.  It becomes more and more obvious that the Zionist ideology is profoundly racist, frequently resorts to terrorism, and has no room for peace with Palestinians. Israel&#039;s current solution is before our eyes: build walls around the Palestinians and crush them if they fight. No reasonable 2 state solution has been offered by Israel, though there are many Israelis who want such a solution. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; War is failing all sides. War does not bring peace. War does not bring justice.   There is no God of War. War is the organizing principal of most human criminality. If humans do not organize to end war, war will destroy the earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Below are the last 3 paragraphs of an article by the British Independent&#39;s reporter in Gaza. Fares Akram described the killing of his father by an Israeli bomb dropped on his father&#39;s farmhouse.<br />&#8220;My father, Akrem al-Ghoul, was no militant. Born in Gaza and educated in Egypt, he was a lawyer and a judge who worked for the Palestinian Authority. After Hamas took over, he quit and turned to agriculture. Dad&#39;s father, Fares, who had been driven out of his home in what is now Israeli Ashkelon in 1948, had bought the land in the 1960s.</p>
<p>During the second intifada and until the Israelis withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the farm was taken over by Israeli settlers, but after 2005 we went there every holiday. In Gaza, the only escape is the beach or, if you are lucky enough, the farmland. My father hated what Hamas was doing to Gaza&#39;s legal system, introducing Islamist justice, and he completely opposed violence. He would have worked hard for a just settlement with Israel and a better future for Palestinians. When the PA gained control over the West Bank, he moved to Ramallah to help establish the courts there.</p>
<p>My grief carries no desire for revenge, which I know to be always in vain. But, in truth, as a grieving son, I am finding it hard to distinguish between what the Israelis call terrorists and the Israeli pilots and tank crews who are invading Gaza. What is the difference between the pilot who blew my father to pieces and the militant who fires a small rocket? I have no answers but, just as I am to become a father, I have lost my father.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-the-death-and-life-of-my-father-1225793.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-.." rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-..</a>. for full article)</p>
<p>jonabark<br /> This is one of hundreds of examples of the reason for the UN injunctions against collective punishment.  What continues to happen year after year is that the Palestinians who inhabited the region for centuries are violently displaced by Israeli settlements backed by the Israeli army.  Every instance of self defense  and every form of violent resistance by the Palestinians (or other powers  in the 67  war) has been multiplied in Israeli violence against Palestinians.  It becomes more and more obvious that the Zionist ideology is profoundly racist, frequently resorts to terrorism, and has no room for peace with Palestinians. Israel&#39;s current solution is before our eyes: build walls around the Palestinians and crush them if they fight. No reasonable 2 state solution has been offered by Israel, though there are many Israelis who want such a solution. </p>
<p> War is failing all sides. War does not bring peace. War does not bring justice.   There is no God of War. War is the organizing principal of most human criminality. If humans do not organize to end war, war will destroy the earth.</p>
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		<title>By: PASTOR JEFF</title>
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		<dc:creator>PASTOR JEFF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would sure put a kink in the dispensationalist&#039;s reading of Scripture.</description>
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		<title>By: erbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>erbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel, as a &quot;religious&quot; state foisted on the indigenous Palestinian population by the machinations or European and American politicians should be &quot;destroyed&quot; and replaced by a democracy that treats all inhabitants as equals free to practice their religious beliefs within certain limits.  Palestinians should be allowed reparations for land appropriated by the Zionists since at least 1948.  Israel should be denied any further military aid and the United States and France under the auspices of the United Nations should ensure peace in the region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel, as a &#8220;religious&#8221; state foisted on the indigenous Palestinian population by the machinations or European and American politicians should be &#8220;destroyed&#8221; and replaced by a democracy that treats all inhabitants as equals free to practice their religious beliefs within certain limits.  Palestinians should be allowed reparations for land appropriated by the Zionists since at least 1948.  Israel should be denied any further military aid and the United States and France under the auspices of the United Nations should ensure peace in the region.</p>
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		<title>By: newcreation1</title>
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		<dc:creator>newcreation1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am all for peaceful coexistence and informed dialogue.  The Bible tells us that peacemakers are blessed, and that we should pray for the peace of Jerusalem.  But are peaceful coexistence and informed dialogue really possible when Gaza is being controlled by Hamas, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel?  I don&#039;t think so.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, erbe, what would you have Israel do in this situation?  Engage in dialogue with Hamas, while Hamas continues to launch dozens of missiles per day into Israel?  And don&#039;t you think it&#039;s a bit of a stretch to compare Israel with the old pro-apartheid government in South Africa?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all for peaceful coexistence and informed dialogue.  The Bible tells us that peacemakers are blessed, and that we should pray for the peace of Jerusalem.  But are peaceful coexistence and informed dialogue really possible when Gaza is being controlled by Hamas, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel?  I don&#39;t think so.</p>
<p>Also, erbe, what would you have Israel do in this situation?  Engage in dialogue with Hamas, while Hamas continues to launch dozens of missiles per day into Israel?  And don&#39;t you think it&#39;s a bit of a stretch to compare Israel with the old pro-apartheid government in South Africa?</p>
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		<title>By: mscynthia</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/01/05/jews-muslims-need-a-new-playbook-in-responding-to-the-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-82041</link>
		<dc:creator>mscynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m right there with you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s no such child as other people&#039;s children.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://heartdancing.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://heartdancing.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What kind of future are we creating for our children?    What kind of people will they become, even if they survive the trauma?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m right there with you.</p>
<p>There&#39;s no such child as other people&#39;s children.</p>
<p><a href="http://heartdancing.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://heartdancing.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>What kind of future are we creating for our children?    What kind of people will they become, even if they survive the trauma?</p>
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		<title>By: erbe</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/01/05/jews-muslims-need-a-new-playbook-in-responding-to-the-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-82039</link>
		<dc:creator>erbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as one side, Israel, has &quot;all&quot; the military power and the unequivocal support of Uncle Sam there will never be any reason for Israeli politicians to negotiate in &quot;good faith&quot; with the Palestinians.  Give the Palestinians, or proxies for the Palestinians, access to nuclear or biological weapons and the means to deliver them and watch how quickly Israeli politicians change their tune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as one side, Israel, has &#8220;all&#8221; the military power and the unequivocal support of Uncle Sam there will never be any reason for Israeli politicians to negotiate in &#8220;good faith&#8221; with the Palestinians.  Give the Palestinians, or proxies for the Palestinians, access to nuclear or biological weapons and the means to deliver them and watch how quickly Israeli politicians change their tune.</p>
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		<title>By: churchlady</title>
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		<dc:creator>churchlady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dare we hope that this could come to be?  I pray so.  Thank you, Eboo, for this post.  I&#039;m on your side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dare we hope that this could come to be?  I pray so.  Thank you, Eboo, for this post.  I&#39;m on your side.</p>
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		<title>By: duhsciple</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/01/05/jews-muslims-need-a-new-playbook-in-responding-to-the-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-81996</link>
		<dc:creator>duhsciple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this hopeful post! Bravo, Eboo!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How about this for a public statement....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They are all our children. When a Muslim child dies, that&#039;s our child. When a Jewish child dies, that&#039;s our child. When a Christian child dies, that&#039;s our child. And the so-called &quot;collateral damage&quot; death of even one of our child is UNACCEPTABLE!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peace, not pieces, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Duhsciple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this hopeful post! Bravo, Eboo!</p>
<p>How about this for a public statement&#8230;.</p>
<p>They are all our children. When a Muslim child dies, that&#39;s our child. When a Jewish child dies, that&#39;s our child. When a Christian child dies, that&#39;s our child. And the so-called &#8220;collateral damage&#8221; death of even one of our child is UNACCEPTABLE!</p>
<p>Peace, not pieces, </p>
<p>Duhsciple</p>
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