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God's Politics

Beyond Gaza: An Abrahamic Peace

by Rabbi Arthur Waskow 01-29-2009

Beyond anguish, what can we say about the massive death and destruction in Gaza and the traumatic fear of falling rockets in Israel?  How do we shape not just the temporary palliative of “cease-fire,” but a true alternative? Not just in pretty theory, but in political practicality?

The Obama administration could start by insisting that the Israeli and Egyptian governments open the borders of Gaza to shipments of food and medicine and fuel, while improving the prevention of importing weapons. At the same time, it could refuse to supply Israel with white phosphorus and other weapons that the Israeli government illegally used against the civilian population of Gaza.

But such changes –- only the beginning –- will not happen without public demand for change from a new political alliance inside the U.S. and a new nonviolent campaign by Palestinians, Israelis, and Europeans.

First of all, Palestinians could change reality on the ground by mounting vigorous, assertive, nonviolent resistance to the blockade/embargo. In the weeks just before the invasion of Gaza, small boatloads of people were bringing food and medical supplies to Gaza, ignoring or violating the Israeli blockade. After the invasion began, two more such boats were forced to turn back by the Israeli Navy.

These “ship-ins” were building support in much of the world, pointing out the injustice and violence of the blockade. Instead of canceling the cease-fire and firing rockets once again, Hamas could have turned those boats into a multitude. They might have built an enormous popular pressure in Europe and the U.S. for an end to the blockade and negotiations between Israel, the various powers, and Hamas.

Even now, with or without support from Hamas, European doctors, academics, clergy, political leaders, and peace activists could sponsor a flotilla of “ship-ins.” And Palestinians who live in Israel and in the allegedly “annexed” East Jerusalem could start blockading Israeli roads in a strictly nonviolent way –- not even stone-throwing. They could and would be joined by some Israelis.

Such an effort to challenge in a new way the assumptions behind Israeli power could galvanize a new response from the world at large –- even from the United States. But even if such a nonviolent campaign does not emerge, there are the beginnings of a more conventional approach to peacemaking.

Any effort to heal the wounds of the Middle East must include the Palestinian-Israeli relationship but cannot stop there. For years, the Arab League, led by Saudi Arabia, has proposed a regional peace settlement that would bring peace to Israel in exchange for the recognition of a new and viable Palestinian state. The Israeli government, with support from the U.S. government, has ignored the proposal. But for many Israelis, this would actually be the fulfillment of the dream of a secure and peaceful life.

Can an Israeli government now say, “We are ready to join in these negotiations”? We are ready to deal with a new Palestinian government of national unity that includes Hamas, which obviously has considerable strength among the Palestinian community. For us the deal must include only very small symbolic numbers of Palestinian refugees returning to Israel itself, and control of the Jewish Quarter and the Western Wall in the Old City of Jerusalem.

Perhaps now, after the Gaza invasion, any Israeli government can do this and say that they have not rewarded terrorism, are not negotiating from weakness, have shown they can be bloody. But would they want to? That would require a deep rethinking because it would mean a serious commitment to ending the occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, as well as the blockade of Gaza. Settlers and other opponents of doing this, though fewer in numbers than those who will support it, will be much more intense in their opposition. So the government is likely to be paralyzed, refusing to do what is necessary for peace, resorting to old slogans and the institutional and cultural power of the military to justify paralysis.

So the necessary counterweight for this domestic paralysis will have to come from outside -– that is, the United States. Appointing George Mitchell, the weaver of the Irish peace settlement, as peace envoy to the Middle East is an excellent start. But it will mean little unless the U.S. adopts a whole new policy toward the region.

The alternative policy for the U.S. government would be to use the disaster of Gaza to insist on a regional Middle East peace conference; to insist that even a Netanyahu government of Israel and even a Hamas leadership of Gaza or Palestine take part and accept a decent peace; to connect the end of the U.S. occupation of Iraq with serious diplomacy with Iran and a political settlement of the Afghan agony; and to move swiftly off the fossil fuel addiction that drives a planetary disaster and drives American policy into corruption or conquest in the Middle Eastern oil pools.

Only the biggest response can meet the need. Half-measures, the normal response of governments facing complex conflict, will not work.

And what might make such a break with automatic U.S. policy possible? The presidency of an unusual person chanting “change” is not enough. There are only two clusters of power in the U.S. with enough passion about the Middle East to matter. One is Big Oil. The other is the ethnic and religious passion of American Christians, Jews, and Muslims. If sizeable parts of these groups could work together for such a policy, it might be possible.

For many Jews and Muslims, that is even harder now than it was a month ago. But for others, the shock of so much blood has already brought about unexpected alliances  -– and could make it possible.

At the grassroots in some American communities, some Jews have joined with some Muslims in local demonstrations calling for a cease-fire in Gaza. The peace-oriented American Jewish organizations might be willing to take their previous positions one step further. They might be able to work with American Arabs, Muslims, Christians, and others to press the new administration toward a grand peace.

The building blocks for such a coalition now exist. Can they be mortared together? A roused Muslim-American community, not yet well organized for political action but speedily getting more so; the beginnings of an independent base in the Jewish community (Brit Tzedek v’Shalom, J Street, Americans for Peace Now, The Shalom Center, the Israel Policy Forum, Tikkun,  Jewish Voice for Peace) that could draw strength from the  majority of real live American Jews – who support such a result but whose politics are unvoiced by the big American Jewish organizations; mainstream Protestant groups that are raring to go and will be effective if they can focus on changing U.S. policy instead of parading their own personal purity as in the divestment campaigns, and if they have Jewish allies so as not to be accused (or accuse themselves) of anti-Semitism; a vague Roman Catholic support for the same result, which might be stimulated into action; black community support, pro-peace and ready to affirm Palestinian self-determination, but so far not focused on this issue because there are other urgencies and they feel the need for Jewish allies to address those urgencies; and non-religiously or ethnically identified progressives, if they can get over their habit of treating the word “Zionist” as a curse word and start clearly condemning terrorist attacks on civilians by the underdogs, as well as military attacks, occupation, and blockade by the uber-dogs.

The effort to shape such a Grand Abrahamic Alliance should begin now.

Rabbi Arthur Waskow is director of The Shalom Center, which voices a new prophetic agenda in Jewish, multireligious, and American life. He is co-author of The Tent of Abraham: Stories of Hope and Peace for Jews, Christians, and Muslims, as well as the author of many books on Jewish thought and practice and U.S. public policy.

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  • jonabark
    Looks like the web blog is functional again. Would be nice to know what happened.

    Very balanced and positive article by Rabbi Waskow. I agree with everything except the characterization of economic boycott as a campaign of personal purity. This tactic effectively confronted the very similar apartheid situation in South Africa and helped focus moral scrutiny on the behavior of the South African government. Mr. Waskow acknowledges that little will result from wishful thinking or chanting change. Right now the Kadima party is on record as wanting to keep the illegal West Bank settlements for Israel. This is a long and stubborn position of Israel and I believe it precludes the possibility of a just peace acceptable to the Palestinians or the UN members apart from the US and Israel. Only when the US and the world unites around a return to something very close to 67 borders and thus refuses to empower expansion through aggression will Israel give up the Kadima position. And there is much evidence that only when that position( well represented in the Saudi proposal) is backed either by refusal to continue to arm Israel, or widespread economic boycott, will the message get through and peace have a chance.
  • BelovedFollower
    I stumbled over the "personal purity" sentence as well, but reading again wondered if the Rabbi was suggesting that divestment campaigns would be one way of changing U.S. Policy , instead of parading our personal purity. I admit its a stretch and would mean that the original sentence was very awkward, but I thought divestment strategies were effective too!
  • erbe
    As long as official United States policy continues to be hijacked by AIPAC and Zionist politicians nothing substantive will change for the better for the Palestinians.

    And with Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel's ancestry (his father was a member of the Zionist terrorist organization Irgun) want to bet that all we will hear from George Mitchell is more of the same spin we've been hearing for 60 years.

    I hope not, but it doesn't look good. Just maybe, Obama will turn out to be a man and not a wimp.
  • environut
    I love the term "Zionist". I bet you're a grand wizard or a cyclops. In case you forgot, Jesus and the Apostles were also "Zionists" as you say.
  • BuckeyeDon
    Well, no they weren't; at least not in the way erbe is using the term. Zionism began in the nineteenth century. It's anachronistic to try and project it back to the first.
  • kevin47
    "Well, no they weren't; at least not in the way erbe is using the term."

    Considering that he is using it as an empty pejorative, certainly not.
  • BuckeyeDon
    That's a fair characterization of erbe's comments, Kevin.
  • Lord_Voldemort
    This article has a lot going for it. There is no question that a nonviolent Palestinian resistance would garner a lot of sympathy in both the US and Israel, and a Palestinian movement that had the self-restraint to embrace nonviolence would be a much more trustworthy bargaining party.

    The problematic part is here:

    "The alternative policy for the U.S. government would be to use the disaster of Gaza to insist on a regional Middle East peace conference; to insist that even a Netanyahu government of Israel and even a Hamas leadership of Gaza or Palestine take part and accept a decent peace..."

    While the US has a great deal of influence in the region, it is not in our power to dictate to Israel or Hamas that they must accept the terms of what we judge to be a "decent peace". The US can serve as an intermediary, but peace is up to the Israelis and Palestinians. And I simply cannot see Hamas, as currently constituted, agreeing to any "decent peace" anyway.
  • erbe
    United States aid to Israel since 1949 totals around $84,000,000,000. Most of that aid was for weapons, weapon systems and other military expenditures. Now, that aid comes to around $3,500,000,000 per year.

    Don't you wonder what would happen if it stopped?
  • SisterMarie
    Swords beaten into ploughshares? Maybe?
  • FredMcTaggart
    Appreciate the piece and comments very much. In addition to the approaches presented, perhaps it's time for a new "Abrahamic Covenant" that outlines how Palestinians, Jews, and Christians will engage each other, out of respect for their common father. One aspect could certainly be an agreement for non-violent action. Another could be a priority for collaborative effort on all parties' parts, so that non-violent action is not merely taken by one group to the exclusion of others, but it would be taken together in the various jurisdictions within which the Covenant signatories live. The grand strategies at the top must be matched by practical strategies among the grassroots.
  • There will never be peace in the Mideast until Jesus Christ returns. There are two concepts in Islam that will never allow Israel to have peace until the Messiah returns. The first is Dar al-Islam which means House of Islam or House of Submission. Its adherents are made up of Muslim extremists. Dar al-Islam refers to countries where the law of Islam prevails and an Islamic government rules. Non-Muslims may live there under subjugation. Dar al-Harb means House of War and refers to those countries that are not under Islamic rule. It also refers to those lands which were once Islamic but were conquered by non-Muslims. The lands that are not Muslim are not legitimate because they are not under the authority of Allah. In the case of Israel those Muslims who subscribe to Dar al-Harb believe that the Jews are living on land that Allah gave to Islam. Therefore it is a disgrace to Islam and can only be rectified by Israel returning to Islamic rule. No matter how many moderate Muslims may want peace with Israel the Islamic hardliners can never allow Israel to exist. Under Dar al-Harb treaties and truces may be made but only with the goal of eventually retaking the land that once was under Islamic rule. Since
    Israeli soldiers swear an oath declaring "Never again" will they be brought under the power of another government, they will never stop fighting to keep Israel. The Muslims riot over cartoons depicting their prophet Muhammad because it is a disgrace to him. How much more will they fight to regain Israel since it is a disgrace to Allah. Unless you can figure out what to do with the Muslim extremists true peace will not exist in Israel until Jesus Christ returns to govern the world from Jerusalem.
  • PASTOR JEFF
    And His solution would be...?
  • BuckeyeDon
    Pastor Jeff:
    In reading James_Jackson's comments, including his "solution" below I get the impression that it's useless to even try and work for peace in the Middle East in any way, because it ain't gonna happen until the sky opens up and the Lord returns. So we should forget about praying for the peace of Jerusalem, I guess.

    Never mind that Isaiah 2 might have a temporal as well as an eternal fulfillment. And that God doesn't want us to stand idly by and watch his children slaughter each other.

    And never mind being about the Father's business, which in my understanding includes peacemaking (Matthew 5:9). It would be an exercise in futility.
  • <>And His solution would be...?<>


    2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. (Isaiah 2:2-4)

    [Sorry about the new thread but when I hit the reply button under your post it won't display a reply box. Any post above the "show more comments" link displays the reply box correctly. It says there is an error on the page and won't allow me to reply directly]
  • <>In reading James_Jackson's comments, including his "solution" below I get the impression that it's useless to even try and work for peace in the Middle East in any way, because it ain't gonna happen until the sky opens up and the Lord returns. So we should forget about praying for the peace of Jerusalem, I guess.<>


    That is not my solution but God's solution. We live in a fallen world and therefore our desires may not always be fulfilled the way we would like them. By all means try to make peace but please do not deceive yourself with idealistic views. I stated a reality concerning Muslim extremists and their view on who should rule in Israel. Unless you can address the issue of what to do with them they will never let Israel live in peace. Until you do, all the peacemaking efforts in the world will not succeed. That's just a reality as opposed to your characterization of a pie in the sky prophecy. Yes pray for the peace of Jerusalem but that doesn't mean God is going to answer that prayer in your time frame. The historical evidence shows that Jerusalem has experienced very little peace since the time of Jesus.


    <>Never mind that Isaiah 2 might have a temporal as well as an eternal fulfillment. And that God doesn't want us to stand idly by and watch his children slaughter each other.<>


    This passage clearly states that this prophecy will be fulfilled in the "last days". It also declares that the Lord's house or Temple will be established on the earth. No such structure exists at this time. Again, try to make peace but do it with not just your heart but also your mind. You may be able to reduce the violence in the area but you are not going to end it.


    <>And never mind being about the Father's business, which in my understanding includes peacemaking (Matthew 5:9). It would be an exercise in futility.<>


    Jesus said, "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid" (John 14:27). The most important peace that man can experience is peace with God which is only available through Jesus Christ. Colossians states, "And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven" (Colossians 1:20). Paul said, "And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus" (Philippians 4:7). If a person does not have peace with God he will not be able to have true peace with other people. Jesus said, "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law" (Luke 12:51-53). Paul said, "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men" (Romans 12:18). The reality is that it isn't always possible to live in peace with others because others won't let you. Every problem in this world will not be solved until Jesus Christ comes again. That's a fact. However, as much as it lies within us we can try to make peace with others but it will not always result in peace.
  • BuckeyeDon
    Mr. Jackson:
    "Sorry about the new thread but when I hit the reply button under your post it won't display a reply box."
    When you want to reply to a comment below the "show more comments" threshold, you have to go back to the top of the thread, click the Options button, and select a viewing order from the drop-down menu. Then the reply links will work.

    "That is not my solution but God's solution."
    Then your view of God differs greatly from mine. I don't believe God requires us to be fatalists, notwithstanding the reality of a fallen world.

    "I stated a reality concerning Muslim extremists and their view on who should rule in Israel. Unless you can address the issue of what to do with them they will never let Israel live in peace. Until you do, all the peacemaking efforts in the world will not succeed. That's just a reality..."
    It's a reality according to your opinion. I'm not sure I accept the truth of your "reality" regarding Muslims. How many Muslims do you know? I'm sure the Muslim students I have taught would have rejected your characteristic of their faith. Furthermore, even if it is true, you ignore the possibility that God can work a change of heart.

    Where are you getting your information about Islam and Muslims?

    "This passage clearly states that this prophecy (Isaiah 2:2-4) will be fulfilled in the 'last days'".
    But we are living in the "last days" right now--and have been since Pentecost: "But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh..." (Acts 2:16-17); "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son" (Hebrews 1:1-2).

    "It also declares that the Lord's house or Temple will be established on the earth."
    Nothing in this passage, or in the parallel passage in Micah 4, requires us to believe that the "Lord's House" must be a physical structure. In fact, John 2:21-23 indicates that we no longer go up to the mountain or to Jerusalem to worship. I believe Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 refer to the assembled people of God, not a physical building.

    But we may have to agree to disagree about that.

    "You may be able to reduce the violence in the area but you are not going to end it."
    Again, I reject the fatalism of your comment here.

    Peace has come to many parts of the world where it was once thought impossible. It's not any less possible in Israel-Palestine.

    And your quote from Luke 12 is out of context; it doesn't refer to conflict between nations but the conflict inherent in the Gospel message, which occasionally has divided families and communities. That conflict arises from the fallen nature you refer to earlier.

    No, problems can't be fully solved in this age, but with God's Spirit, much can be done in that direction. The idea that there can't be peace in Israel-Palestine puts limits on God and what he can do.

    Peace
  • Thank you for your help with the reply button.



    <>Then your view of God differs greatly from mine. I don't believe God requires us to be fatalists, notwithstanding the reality of a fallen world.<>


    I don't believe in fatalism either. Quite the contrary I know that Jesus Christ gives me life more abundantly and that refers to more than just earthly comforts. Paul said, "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee." (Titus 2:11-15) . I look forward to and hope for the "glorious appearing" of our Lord. However, we are to occupy until He comes and do good works and that includes peacemaking and spreading the gospel through word and deed.


    <>It's a reality according to your opinion. I'm not sure I accept the truth of your "reality" regarding Muslims. How many Muslims do you know? I'm sure the Muslim students I have taught would have rejected your characteristic of their faith.<>


    First of all, I did not say all Muslims subscribed to the concepts I mentioned. I don't know any Muslims. I used to work with one and he told me the Jews changed the wording of the Old Testament. I found this ironic since the last book of the Old Testament was written one thousand years before Muhammad was born. How many Muslim extremists do you know?


    <>Furthermore, even if it is true, you ignore the possibility that God can work a change of heart.<>


    Then changing their hearts is the solution to that problem. As I stated previously one can only know true peace when you make peace with God through Jesus Christ. But until the Muslims accept Jesus as their Savior they are going to keep following the tenets of their faith.


    <>Where are you getting your information about Islam and Muslims?<>


    Reading books and online sources.


    <>But we are living in the "last days" right now--and have been since Pentecost: "But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh..." (Acts 2:16-17); "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son" (Hebrews 1:1-2). "It also declares that the Lord's house or Temple will be established on the earth."
    Nothing in this passage, or in the parallel passage in Micah 4, requires us to believe that the "Lord's House" must be a physical structure. In fact, John 2:21-23 indicates that we no longer go up to the mountain or to Jerusalem to worship. I believe Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 refer to the assembled people of God, not a physical building.But we may have to agree to disagree about that.<>


    Yes we disagree about the definition of the last days and the fact that the word "house" refers to people.


    <James>"You may be able to reduce the violence in the area but you are not going to end it."<end James>
    <>Again, I reject the fatalism of your comment here.<>

    What you call fatalism I call reality. Is it fatalistic to say that one day I'm going to die if the Lord doesn't come back until then?


    <>Peace has come to many parts of the world where it was once thought impossible. It's not any less possible in Israel-Palestine.<>


    True but not in the Mideast, the center of the three great faiths of Abraham. Religious fervor has resulted in numerous conflicts there for the last two thousand years.


    <>And your quote from Luke 12 is out of context; it doesn't refer to conflict between nations but the conflict inherent in the Gospel message, which occasionally has divided families and communities. That conflict arises from the fallen nature you refer to earlier.<>

    I agree that this is what Jesus meant in this passage. I was illustrating the fact that accepting Jesus as your Savior can cause conflict. Just because the Bible declares "blessed are the peacemakers" does not mean God will guarantee peace between humans. There will always be conflict between people whether of the same faith, different faith, or no faith at all because of the fallen world we live in.


    <>No, problems can't be fully solved in this age, but with God's Spirit, much can be done in that direction. The idea that there can't be peace in Israel-Palestine puts limits on God and what he can do.<>


    I didn't say there couldn't be peace in the Mideast. I said it wouldn't come until Jesus comes back and sets up His earthly kingdom.


    <>Peace<>


    Ditto
  • PASTOR JEFF
    Don and James:

    Since I set this discussion off I will explain what's behind my "His solution?" question.
    I struggle with whether peace can be event initiated and subsequently enforced. Is this how you view personal peace with God? How might this influence your view of peace with others? One option implied in your "peace only when Jesus returns" model means the eradication of the opposition. How is this different from "radical Islam's" call to kill the infidels? Also, what distinguishes a radical-fundamentalist from other Muslim's?
  • <>Also, what distinguishes a radical-fundamentalist from other Muslim's?<>

    Fair enough. I will answer this question first. Moderate Muslims may interpret the word Jihad to mean a personal struggle. Radical Muslims interpret it to mean a holy war against infidels. Moderate Muslims may not like the situation in Israel but will work (like Sadat) to find a peaceful coexistence with the Jews (of course Sadat was killed by radical Muslim members of Egyptian Islamic Jihad because of this). Radical Muslims will target civilians for terrorist acts and use their own citizens as human shields. In doing so they justify these acts by invoking their religious beliefs. On a relevant note, I read in the latest entry on the God's Politics blog that Jimmy Carter disagrees with people like myself who say there will never be true peace in Israel until the Messiah comes again. He also said, "George Mitchell is already under attack from some of the Israeli supporters in the country just for being, ‘neutral’ or ‘balanced.’ So that’s what you have to do. You have to look at both sides and treat both sides equally. The peace process is one that is fully supported by a strong majority of Israelis and Palestinians. I’m talking about private citizens. They want peace and they’re willing to withdraw from Palestinian territory in order to have peace. Everybody knows that. But there’s a small minority that doesn’t want to withdraw from Palestinian territories and they’re the ones that are blocking peace so far." I find it illuminating that Jimmy Carter blames the Jewish settlers for the lack of peace in the Israel-Palestine situation yet he fails to mention the Muslim extremists as being part of the problem also. So much for "being, ‘neutral’ or ‘balanced.’" and treating "both sides equally". Unless he is willing and able to address the Muslim extremist situation, that will remain the crux of the failure to make peace between Israel and Palestine.

    <>Since I set this discussion off I will explain what's behind my "His solution?" question. I struggle with whether peace can be event initiated and subsequently enforced. Is this how you view personal peace with God? How might this influence your view of peace with others? One option implied in your "peace only when Jesus returns" model means the eradication of the opposition. How is this different from "radical Islam's" call to kill the infidels?<>


    There are two underlying premises that are incontrovertible in the Bible. The first is found in the Book of Revelation, "And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments." (Revelation 16:7) God is a righteous judge. We may not always understand His ways but they are just and true. As God said, "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9) God, who dwells in all dimensions, is omniscient and infinite. Humans, who dwell in four dimensions, are finite and limited in their thoughts. We will not understand God’s ways until we are with Him in eternity. The second premise is found in Romans, "So then he has mercy upon whomever he wills, and he hardens the heart of whomever he wills. You will say to me then, 'Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?' But who are you, a man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, 'Why have you made me thus?' Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for beauty and
    another for menial use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience the vessels of wrath made for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for the vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?" (Romans 9:18-24) This last passage may seem harsh to us but when taken with the first premise we know that God is righteous and that everything He does is right. Our thoughts and ways are not His and so we must defer to Him lest we sit in judgment of God.

    In an earlier post I quoted the prophecy in Isaiah, "2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." (Isaiah 2:2-4) The respondent to this post interpreted this prophecy in a metaphorical sense. I take it in a literal sense. He agreed that we live in a fallen world (i.e. "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"). This means that we sinful humans are incapable of creating an everlasting peace on earth. We will always have conflicts because of our differences both petty and real. This prophecy declares "neither shall they learn war any more." The history of the human race is filled with wars to this present day. Unless our sinful natures are removed we will never be able to fulfill this prophecy of no more war. Thus, it will only be possible in the End-Times when Jesus comes again and therefore this prophecy is yet to be fulfilled in the future.

    Before Jesus sets up His earthly kingdom, He said, "21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." (Matthew 24:21-22) This was in response to His disciples' questions, "And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" (Matthew 24:3) I won't take the time to list the prophecies that describe what this time of tribulation will be like. Suffice it to say that it will be horrible and unlike any other time in history. This will be a time of God's righteous judgment upon a rebellious world. At that time "He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."

    The Bible uses the phrase "rod of iron" four times. Three times it is associated directly with the Son of God, Jesus Christ:

    "1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. 4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision. 5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. 6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. 10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of
    the earth. 11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him." (Psalm 2)

    "And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne." (Revelation 12:5)

    "And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God." (Revelation 19:15)

    (Notice that God does have a fierce and wrathful aspect to His nature) So Jesus will rule His kingdom with a rod of iron. How He wields this rod of iron I cannot say. However, it is clear that He will tolerate no rebellion during this time. He will not let those who want to live in peace be disturbed by those who don't. He may judge them immediately and execute them. Remember, this is not eternity but what Christians such as
    myself call the Millennium. This may make you uncomfortable but remember He is a true and righteous judge. For us to say otherwise is to elevate ourselves above God.
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