Comments on: The Two Futures Project: Who Would Jesus Bomb? http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/ A Blog by Jim Wallis and Friends Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:28:01 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: hollysavage http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-110647 hollysavage Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:27:29 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-110647 For those who want the biblical view of justice: <a href="http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/genesis/sodom-and-gomorrah-destroyed" rel="nofollow">http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/genesis/sod...</a> For those who want the biblical view of justice: http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/genesis/sod...

]]> By: hollysavage http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-110648 hollysavage Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:12:14 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-110648 The answer to Shane's question, "Who would Jesus bomb?" is very simple if we simply ask another question: Who has Jesus already bombed? People are constantly raging against weapons of mass destruction, using Jesus as the focal point of their message of "peace." However, if you look at the story of Sodom and Gommorah in the Bible it is obvious that Jesus was packing nukes long before the Manhattan Project. Sodom (where we get the term "sodomy") and Gommorah were so sold out to homosexuality that the cities had turned violent with the perversion. What did Jesus do? Did he walk down mainstreet wearing tie-dye clothes and holding a peace sign? Did he participate in civil disobedience and "peaceful" protesting? Did he bring in Abraham's family with the mission of loving their neighbors as themselves? No. As Mark Driscoll would say, he wiped out the cities with "road tar from Heaven." As the Bible clearly says in Genesis 19: 24-25, "Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah - from the LORD out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities - and also the vegetation in teh land." In other words, Jesus not only smoked all the people, but also all of the land and plants. That was justice. By the way, the idea of "hate the sin, love the sinner" is not biblical. I'm not saying that the United States should wipe out Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm simply answering the question Shane brought up. American cannot act as Jesus because she is imperfect. Her justice will never meet His standard. As a result, she does not have his authority to wipe out entire nations. However, she has a responsibility to protect her people and the Believers therin should strive to portray both the loving and just side of the Savior they serve. Not simply the side that's easier or more feel-good. The answer to Shane's question, “Who would Jesus bomb?” is very simple if we simply ask another question: Who has Jesus already bombed? People are constantly raging against weapons of mass destruction, using Jesus as the focal point of their message of “peace.” However, if you look at the story of Sodom and Gommorah in the Bible it is obvious that Jesus was packing nukes long before the Manhattan Project. Sodom (where we get the term “sodomy”) and Gommorah were so sold out to homosexuality that the cities had turned violent with the perversion. What did Jesus do? Did he walk down mainstreet wearing tie-dye clothes and holding a peace sign? Did he participate in civil disobedience and “peaceful” protesting? Did he bring in Abraham's family with the mission of loving their neighbors as themselves? No. As Mark Driscoll would say, he wiped out the cities with “road tar from Heaven.” As the Bible clearly says in Genesis 19: 24-25, “Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah – from the LORD out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities – and also the vegetation in teh land.” In other words, Jesus not only smoked all the people, but also all of the land and plants. That was justice. By the way, the idea of “hate the sin, love the sinner” is not biblical. I'm not saying that the United States should wipe out Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm simply answering the question Shane brought up. American cannot act as Jesus because she is imperfect. Her justice will never meet His standard. As a result, she does not have his authority to wipe out entire nations. However, she has a responsibility to protect her people and the Believers therin should strive to portray both the loving and just side of the Savior they serve. Not simply the side that's easier or more feel-good.

]]> By: hollysavage http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-106792 hollysavage Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:27:29 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-106792 For those who want the biblical view of justice: <a href="http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/genesis/sodom-and-gomorrah-destroyed" rel="nofollow">http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/genesis/sod...</a> For those who want the biblical view of justice: http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/genesis/sod...

]]> By: hollysavage http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-106793 hollysavage Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:12:14 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-106793 The answer to Shane's question, "Who would Jesus bomb?" is very simple if we simply ask another question: Who has Jesus already bombed? People are constantly raging against weapons of mass destruction, using Jesus as the focal point of their message of "peace." However, if you look at the story of Sodom and Gommorah in the Bible it is obvious that Jesus was packing nukes long before the Manhattan Project. Sodom (where we get the term "sodomy") and Gommorah were so sold out to homosexuality that the cities had turned violent with the perversion. What did Jesus do? Did he walk down mainstreet wearing tie-dye clothes and holding a peace sign? Did he participate in civil disobedience and "peaceful" protesting? Did he bring in Abraham's family with the mission of loving their neighbors as themselves? No. As Mark Driscoll would say, he wiped out the cities with "road tar from Heaven." As the Bible clearly says in Genesis 19: 24-25, "Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah - from the LORD out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities - and also the vegetation in teh land." In other words, Jesus not only smoked all the people, but also all of the land and plants. That was justice. By the way, the idea of "hate the sin, love the sinner" is not biblical. I'm not saying that the United States should wipe out Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm simply answering the question Shane brought up. American cannot act as Jesus because she is imperfect. Her justice will never meet His standard. As a result, she does not have his authority to wipe out entire nations. However, she has a responsibility to protect her people and the Believers therin should strive to portray both the loving and just side of the Savior they serve. Not simply the side that's easier or more feel-good. The answer to Shane's question, “Who would Jesus bomb?” is very simple if we simply ask another question: Who has Jesus already bombed? People are constantly raging against weapons of mass destruction, using Jesus as the focal point of their message of “peace.” However, if you look at the story of Sodom and Gommorah in the Bible it is obvious that Jesus was packing nukes long before the Manhattan Project. Sodom (where we get the term “sodomy”) and Gommorah were so sold out to homosexuality that the cities had turned violent with the perversion. What did Jesus do? Did he walk down mainstreet wearing tie-dye clothes and holding a peace sign? Did he participate in civil disobedience and “peaceful” protesting? Did he bring in Abraham's family with the mission of loving their neighbors as themselves? No. As Mark Driscoll would say, he wiped out the cities with “road tar from Heaven.” As the Bible clearly says in Genesis 19: 24-25, “Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah – from the LORD out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities – and also the vegetation in teh land.” In other words, Jesus not only smoked all the people, but also all of the land and plants. That was justice. By the way, the idea of “hate the sin, love the sinner” is not biblical. I'm not saying that the United States should wipe out Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm simply answering the question Shane brought up. American cannot act as Jesus because she is imperfect. Her justice will never meet His standard. As a result, she does not have his authority to wipe out entire nations. However, she has a responsibility to protect her people and the Believers therin should strive to portray both the loving and just side of the Savior they serve. Not simply the side that's easier or more feel-good.

]]> By: richardaberdeen http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-106794 richardaberdeen Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:53:49 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-106794 You might find our CD and video below of interest...<br> <br>WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? - video<br><a href="http://freedomtracks.com/videowhowouldjesusbomb.wmv" rel="nofollow">http://freedomtracks.com/videowhowouldjesusbomb...</a> <br> <br>Who Would Jesus Bomb? - Nashville Session Players Free 20-Song CD <br><a href="http://freedomtracks.com/anw.html" rel="nofollow">http://freedomtracks.com/anw.html</a> <br> <br> <br>Thank You, Sincerely<br>Richard Aberdeen <br><a href="http://www.FreedomTracks.com" rel="nofollow">www.FreedomTracks.com</a> You might find our CD and video below of interest…

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]]> By: JOSHUA28 http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-97919 JOSHUA28 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:56:46 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-97919 SHANE, KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT FOR JUSTICE, TRUTH AND ULTIMATE JOY ALL IN LOVE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. BE CAREFUL TO REMEMBER YOUR OWN WORDS TO ME, THIS WORLD, THIS USA, THIS COUNTRY OF OURS IS A SINKING SHIP, JUST SAVE AS MANY AS YOU CAN AND BE A "CATCHER IN THE RYE" AS WE SPEAK OF. JESUS IS COMING SOON IN THE FLESH AGAIN. REMEMBER WHOM THIS USA SERVERS? MOLOCH, RAY? LUCIFER? WHAT DID SATAN SAY TO JESUS IN THE DESERT? WE ALL KNOW HE OWNS THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD, REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT THE FREEMASONS,ILLUMINATI,MAMMON! YOU CAN NOT SERVE BOTH GOD AND MOMMNON (MONEY) THUS SAITH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. LOVE BUT BE WARY THAT THE DEVIL IS ROAMING CLOSE TO US NOW.. THE WICCA AND SATANISIM OCCULT WHITCHCRAFT IS GROWING STRONGER BY THE DAY. WE ARE LIVING IN THE END TIMES PEOPLE PLEASE OPEN YOUR EARS TO HEAR AND EYES TO SEE THE SPIRITS AND ANGELS ALL AROUND YOU NOW! NOT ALL ARE BAD, NOT ALL ARE GOOD, CLING CLOSE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF CHRIST OH PEOPLE OF THE CHURCH. RE-READ THE BOOK OF REVELATION AND READ THE SIX AND SEVENTH BOOKS OF MOSES LITERALLY LOOK AT THE KEY AND SEALS OF KING SOLOMON AND WHAT DOES THE STAR OF DAVID HAVE TO DO WITH ALEISTER CRLOWLEY ???? I LOVE YOU ALL AND LET US BASK IN THE GLORY THAT IS OUR GOD YAHWEH WHOM ONE AND ONLY SON IS JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH! LET THE PROPHETS COME FORTH AND SPEAK........... SHANE, KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT FOR JUSTICE, TRUTH AND ULTIMATE JOY ALL IN LOVE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. BE CAREFUL TO REMEMBER YOUR OWN WORDS TO ME, THIS WORLD, THIS USA, THIS COUNTRY OF OURS IS A SINKING SHIP, JUST SAVE AS MANY AS YOU CAN AND BE A “CATCHER IN THE RYE” AS WE SPEAK OF. JESUS IS COMING SOON IN THE FLESH AGAIN. REMEMBER WHOM THIS USA SERVERS? MOLOCH, RAY? LUCIFER? WHAT DID SATAN SAY TO JESUS IN THE DESERT? WE ALL KNOW HE OWNS THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD, REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT THE FREEMASONS,ILLUMINATI,MAMMON! YOU CAN NOT SERVE BOTH GOD AND MOMMNON (MONEY) THUS SAITH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. LOVE BUT BE WARY THAT THE DEVIL IS ROAMING CLOSE TO US NOW.. THE WICCA AND SATANISIM OCCULT WHITCHCRAFT IS GROWING STRONGER BY THE DAY. WE ARE LIVING IN THE END TIMES PEOPLE PLEASE OPEN YOUR EARS TO HEAR AND EYES TO SEE THE SPIRITS AND ANGELS ALL AROUND YOU NOW! NOT ALL ARE BAD, NOT ALL ARE GOOD, CLING CLOSE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF CHRIST OH PEOPLE OF THE CHURCH. RE-READ THE BOOK OF REVELATION AND READ THE SIX AND SEVENTH BOOKS OF MOSES LITERALLY LOOK AT THE KEY AND SEALS OF KING SOLOMON AND WHAT DOES THE STAR OF DAVID HAVE TO DO WITH ALEISTER CRLOWLEY ???? I LOVE YOU ALL AND LET US BASK IN THE GLORY THAT IS OUR GOD YAHWEH WHOM ONE AND ONLY SON IS JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH! LET THE PROPHETS COME FORTH AND SPEAK………..

]]> By: Who Would Jesus Bomb? Thoughts from Shaine Claiborne « Thinking About it All http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-89378 Who Would Jesus Bomb? Thoughts from Shaine Claiborne « Thinking About it All Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:52:32 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-89378 [...] Read the whole article here [...] [...] Read the whole article here [...]

]]> By: links roundup « HarvestBoston http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-88282 links roundup « HarvestBoston Thu, 21 May 2009 12:48:38 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-88282 [...] Claiborne and Rob Bell team up to announce their new project, Two Futures, which asks the all-important question: “Who would Jesus [...] [...] Claiborne and Rob Bell team up to announce their new project, Two Futures, which asks the all-important question: “Who would Jesus [...]

]]> By: Q Austin – Tyler Wigg-Stevenson – Two Futures Project « Fourth Space http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87990 Q Austin – Tyler Wigg-Stevenson – Two Futures Project « Fourth Space Thu, 14 May 2009 21:00:50 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87990 [...] slavery. It’s better to read up on this at 2FP and also Shane Claiborne’s comments here. Oh, and take 9 minutes to make yourself [...] [...] slavery. It’s better to read up on this at 2FP and also Shane Claiborne’s comments here. Oh, and take 9 minutes to make yourself [...]

]]> By: koalamasala http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87875 koalamasala Wed, 13 May 2009 13:06:58 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87875 Hello, Sister Marie,<br><br>Actually, Shane has risked both jail time AND his life by going to Iraq with the Christian Peacemakers (see his book "The Irresistible Revolution").<br><br>And I agree with talitha koum, that college students sleeping outside in cardboard boxes -is- meaningful, as it may mean a life of service and compassion to those living in cardboard boxes on regular basis (esp. up North!). Hello, Sister Marie,

Actually, Shane has risked both jail time AND his life by going to Iraq with the Christian Peacemakers (see his book “The Irresistible Revolution”).

And I agree with talitha koum, that college students sleeping outside in cardboard boxes -is- meaningful, as it may mean a life of service and compassion to those living in cardboard boxes on regular basis (esp. up North!).

]]> By: Fortuitous Bouncing « man.of.depravity http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87671 Fortuitous Bouncing « man.of.depravity Sat, 09 May 2009 12:21:01 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87671 [...] Shane Claiborne: who would Jesus bomb? [...] [...] Shane Claiborne: who would Jesus bomb? [...]

]]> By: Jim Wallis: A New President and a New Generation Seek a Nuclear Weapons Free Future | BlackNewsTribune.com http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87639 Jim Wallis: A New President and a New Generation Seek a Nuclear Weapons Free Future | BlackNewsTribune.com Fri, 08 May 2009 21:15:34 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87639 [...] the same time, a new project was launched last week, led by a new generation of Evangelical Christians, called The Two Futures [...] [...] the same time, a new project was launched last week, led by a new generation of Evangelical Christians, called The Two Futures [...]

]]> By: A New President and a New Generation Seek a Nuclear Weapons Free Future - Jim Wallis - God’s Politics Blog http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87636 A New President and a New Generation Seek a Nuclear Weapons Free Future - Jim Wallis - God’s Politics Blog Fri, 08 May 2009 21:00:28 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87636 [...] the same time, a new project was launched last week, led by a new generation of Evangelical Christians, called The Two Futures [...] [...] the same time, a new project was launched last week, led by a new generation of Evangelical Christians, called The Two Futures [...]

]]> By: SisterMarie http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87613 SisterMarie Fri, 08 May 2009 12:55:51 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87613 Wow. I actually know that song. Citing it does reveal something about your age. Wow. I actually know that song. Citing it does reveal something about your age.

]]> By: canucklehead http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87593 canucklehead Thu, 07 May 2009 23:47:34 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87593 Whew, I'm feeling better already!!!! BOMBS AWAY!! YEE-HAH!!<br><br>I MAY NEVER MARCH IN THE INFANTRY, RIDE IN THE CAVALRY, SHOOT THE ARTILLERY; I MAY NEVER FLY O'ER THE ENEMY, BUT I'Z IN THE LO-WARD'S ARMEE, YEE-HAW! (repeat**)<br><br>ALTOGETHER NOW<br><br>I'Z IN THE LO-WARD'S ARMEE, YEE-HAW! I'Z IN THE LO-WARD'S ARMEE, YEE-HAH! (to repeat**) - and repeat ad nauseum until Squeaky tires of squeezin' the accordion YEE-HAW! Whew, I'm feeling better already!!!! BOMBS AWAY!! YEE-HAH!!

I MAY NEVER MARCH IN THE INFANTRY, RIDE IN THE CAVALRY, SHOOT THE ARTILLERY; I MAY NEVER FLY O'ER THE ENEMY, BUT I'Z IN THE LO-WARD'S ARMEE, YEE-HAW! (repeat**)

ALTOGETHER NOW

I'Z IN THE LO-WARD'S ARMEE, YEE-HAW! I'Z IN THE LO-WARD'S ARMEE, YEE-HAH! (to repeat**) – and repeat ad nauseum until Squeaky tires of squeezin' the accordion YEE-HAW!

]]> By: JamesM http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87570 JamesM Thu, 07 May 2009 17:25:18 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87570 Okay. Thanks. Time to look for another god. I don't want any part of the one you described. Okay. Thanks. Time to look for another god. I don't want any part of the one you described.

]]> By: 1Grace http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87550 1Grace Wed, 06 May 2009 23:51:40 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87550 I agree with you the matter of protest of course is wrong to criticize . But what i disagree with the broadbrush of the scope of the protests. Is it necessary to bring in the debate of the use of the atomic bomb and whether it is more Jesus like if we invaded Japan at the cost of more American lives to end the World War ? Or perhaps a more specfic protest to stop the stupidity of starting world wars may have been perhaps more beneficial to joining Christians together in solidarity ? Do we ridicule the necessity of having a strong military , or should we perhaps be more specfic in our dialogue and promotion of peace through diplomatic and example of our own conduct . <br><br>No one will attack you usually because you are too well qualified to protect yourself . So actually bullies . What we need to make sure is we are never the bully. <br><br>Strong military is not the problem , its the problem we have in our hearts from my perspective. I agree with you the matter of protest of course is wrong to criticize . But what i disagree with the broadbrush of the scope of the protests. Is it necessary to bring in the debate of the use of the atomic bomb and whether it is more Jesus like if we invaded Japan at the cost of more American lives to end the World War ? Or perhaps a more specfic protest to stop the stupidity of starting world wars may have been perhaps more beneficial to joining Christians together in solidarity ? Do we ridicule the necessity of having a strong military , or should we perhaps be more specfic in our dialogue and promotion of peace through diplomatic and example of our own conduct .

No one will attack you usually because you are too well qualified to protect yourself . So actually bullies . What we need to make sure is we are never the bully.

Strong military is not the problem , its the problem we have in our hearts from my perspective.

]]> By: letjusticerolldown http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87548 letjusticerolldown Wed, 06 May 2009 21:15:18 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87548 To me your comment sounds very 'ungenerous.' Is that what you want? To me your comment sounds very 'ungenerous.' Is that what you want?

]]> By: talitha_koum http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87547 talitha_koum Wed, 06 May 2009 21:04:08 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87547 point taken, but I think sleeping outside in a cardboard box IS pretty drastic for young college students in America, who don't have to do anything at all to empathise with those less privileged if they don't want to. Let's encourage them rather than criticise the first steps. Sleeping in a box may be the most courageous thing they do all year - and that's ok. At least they are doing SOMETHING. Way better than the alternative. point taken, but I think sleeping outside in a cardboard box IS pretty drastic for young college students in America, who don't have to do anything at all to empathise with those less privileged if they don't want to. Let's encourage them rather than criticise the first steps. Sleeping in a box may be the most courageous thing they do all year – and that's ok. At least they are doing SOMETHING. Way better than the alternative.

]]> By: TylerWS http://blog.sojo.net/2009/05/06/the-two-futures-project-who-would-jesus-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-87542 TylerWS Wed, 06 May 2009 20:03:01 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=8396#comment-87542 Thanks for the love, Shane! Interested parties can check out Shane's comments -- as well as our other speakers, here:<br><a href="http://faithinpubliclife.org/content/feature/faithinpubliclife_042809_1230pmet.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://faithinpubliclife.org/content/feature/fa...</a><br><br>Tyler @2FP Thanks for the love, Shane! Interested parties can check out Shane's comments — as well as our other speakers, here:
http://faithinpubliclife.org/content/feature/fa...

Tyler @2FP

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