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The Good News About Yesterday’s Duel

by Jim Wallis 05-22-2009

I’m in Germany at the biannual Kirchentag festival of faith of the German churches, so I missed the news and analysis of President Barack Obama and former Vice President Dick Cheney’s speeches in Washington, D.C., yesterday.  I just listened to both, however, back-to-back.

In these speeches, we witnessed a rare moment of clarity, a moral clash in the interpretation of reality, and one of the starkest contrasts in competing visions that I have ever seen for the values, direction, and policies of our nation. In short, there was a choice offered to us yesterday for exactly what kind of country and people we want to be – and what America will mean for us and for the world.

First, President Obama offered a dramatically new direction for achieving national security, after the “misguided experiment” of the Bush years. In a very powerful symbol, Obama chose the National Archives as the venue for this major address, pointing to the historic documents that are kept here—The Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the Bill of Rights—noting that these documents are “the foundation of liberty and justice in this country, and a light that shines for all who seek freedom, fairness, equality, and dignity around the world,” and clearly suggesting that they have been violated in the policies of the United States over the past several years, policies that included the systematic violation of legal rights and even the use of torture.

Then,  just minutes later, former Vice President Cheney rose to speak at the American Enterprise Institute to aggressively defend and forcefully argue for a confident continuation of those very policies; and to vigorously attack the “contrived indignation and phony moralizing” that have critiqued the policies of the Bush/Cheney years (which some suggest should be called the Cheney/Bush years). Even Cheney admitted the “great dividing line” that stands between these two visions of national security. Candy Crowley of CNN called the dueling speeches “a tale of two universes.” And they were.

The president began by saying that

 … my single most important responsibility as president is to keep the American people safe. It’s the first thing that I think about when I wake up in the morning. It’s the last thing that I think about when I go to sleep at night.

But, he went on to say that

 … I believe with every fiber of my being that in the long run we also cannot keep this country safe unless we enlist the power of our most fundamental values. … I make this claim not simply as a matter of idealism. We uphold our most cherished values not only because doing so is right, but because it strengthens our country and it keeps us safe. Time and again, our values have been our best national security asset …

He spoke of the “so-called enhanced interrogation techniques” that

… undermine the rule of law. They alienate us in the world. They serve as a recruitment tool for terrorists, and increase the will of our enemies to fight us, while decreasing the will of others to work with America. … In short, they did not advance our war and counterterrorism efforts …

And, on closing the prison at Guantanamo:

Guantanamo set back the moral authority that is America’s strongest currency in the world. Instead of building a durable framework for the struggle against al Qaeda that drew upon our deeply held values and traditions, our government was defending positions that undermined the rule of law. …  instead of serving as a tool to counter-terrorism, Guantanamo became a symbol that helped al Qaeda recruit terrorists to its cause. Indeed, the existence of Guantanamo likely created more terrorists around the world than it ever detained.

Vice President Cheney, on the other hand, began and ended with 9-11 as the justification for everything that followed: “9-11 made necessary a shift of policy, aimed at a clear strategic threat …” He defended the “enhanced interrogation” by arguing,

The interrogations were used on hardened terrorists after other efforts failed.  They were legal, essential, and the right thing to do. … to completely rule out enhanced interrogation methods in the future is unwise in the extreme. It is recklessness cloaked in righteousness, and would make the American people less safe.

And Cheney’s view of values was that

… no moral value held dear by the American people obliges public servants ever to sacrifice innocent lives to spare a captured terrorist from unpleasant things. And when an entire population is targeted by a terror network, nothing is more consistent with American values than to stop them. … For all that we’ve lost in this conflict, the United States has never lost its moral bearings.

My father was a Midwestern evangelical Christian, and an Eisenhower Republican. His core values never changed, but his politics did as his party moved further and further to the right, and his children moved to embrace faith-inspired social justice. He was still alive for the election of 2004, and after a retired men’s breakfast sponsored by the Detroit church that he and my mother had started, somebody suggested that the group go hear Dick Cheney who was speaking that night in nearby Ann Arbor. That was a mistake. My dad coldly replied, “I wouldn’t go hear Dick Cheney if he was the last speaker on the planet. Dick Cheney is evil.” My father was known by everyone for his kindness and generosity, and nobody would have called him judgmental. But his judgments of people, in particular, were unusually good.

I will leave the judgment of Dick Cheney’s soul to God, who alone is in the position to render that judgment on all of us. But I will say the vision of America that Dick Cheney offers, and did again yesterday, is decidedly evil, and has helped to spread even more evil around the world. Dick Cheney represents the dark side of America, a view of the world dominated by fear and self-righteousness—always a deadly combination. It accepts no real reflection or self-examination, the evil in the world is always external, and the threat ever present. There is only certainty, and never humility. And, when the dark side goes unchecked, what it leads to is a state of permanent warfare, which will only be won by using any means necessary; and where the ends always justify the means. At the end of his breathtaking speech, the former vice president was so full of admiration and praise for those who used “enhanced interrogation” against America’s suspected enemies that you got the impression that he would happily preside over those brutal sessions himself.

But at their best, American values are different than that and, as the new president said yesterday, we did things during the last several years with a “framework that failed to rely on our legal traditions and time-tested institutions, and that failed to use our values as a compass,” and that “too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions.”

A fundamental change is now being made in American policies, at which the rest of the world — and many Americans who had despaired over the course of their country — will breathe a deep sigh of great relief.  We are seeing the beginning of the hope that healing will come to some of the damage to the world and to America that has been done by the rampage over our most important values.

The good news about yesterday’s dueling moral visions of America is that the first was offered by a young new president who has a personal priority to change the image of America in the world — to the thundering applause of an audience at the National Archives. The second was offered by an aging figure of an old and imperial view of American leadership, rather domination, in the world, which he wants to defend by any means necessary – to an increasingly marginal right-wing tank with only tepid applause.

And the first is now the governing vision of American foreign policy, while the second is now a politically defeated ideology. Thanks be to God!

Jim Wallis is CEO of Sojourners.

Categories: Faith and Politics
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  • lumens
    Giannii Calvert, May 25 09:11 am:

    Kevin,

    I've responded several times via email and the site has you on their block list. You would need to consult the owner of the site to remove you.

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    For the record, Mr./Ms. Calvert did not e-mail me several times, though I inquired frequently as to the situation.

    My username has been blocked, and I have crafted a couple others that have also been blocked. If you want to split hairs as to whether that constitutes banning someone, have at it. I mostly made the effort to get in touch with Neuro, and I have succeeded in doing so...

    That said, I was never asked not to post here, nor was I ever given a reason (not that I couldn't guess at it) why I am not allowed to post.

    I do continue to get the requests for money, however.
  • I have to say, I supported a lot of Bush's policy, so when I read an article like this I naturally get on the defensive and start looking for the holes in the argument. However, you helped me to remember that there were parts of the previous administration's policy that I did really struggle with.

    Terrorism begins with hatred, and much of the violence of the last several years has fueled the already existing hatred. If we want to stop terrorism, instead of increasing the amount of violence in the world, we should try to reduce the amount of hatred in the world. This cannot be done with a gun.

    Thank you for your reflection and for reminding us that every administration, including the current one, has both strengths and weaknesses.
  • aebh
    Unbelievable! Jim Wallis is worse than James Dobson has ever been. Amazing.
  • canucklehead
    in order to follow this conversation, please clarify whether it's Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan or Pat Nixon you're referring to.
  • canucklehead
    Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan or Pat Nixon?
  • nad2
    thank you, as always, for your thoughtful perspective and kind words. as i said, i still post from time to time, just less frequently, which i think for me personally is the thing to do. it is a tightrope to walk determining how and when to respond when the discussion involves a mixture of thoughtful people with different views seriously trying to dialogue and people who have an axe to grind. i am doing my best to stay in the former category and out of the latter, all the while balancing time and resources to be the best translator of the song singing in my heart for all the communities of which i am a part. peace to you brother,
  • JohnH54
    I was never challenged with facts. Are there good Muslims. Sure. The issue however is Islam. That religion will not lead someone to the one true God. I know people disagree with me but the suggestion that I do not know any Muslims, have not studied it or am prejudiced, i.e. bigoted, is simply not true.
  • squeaky
    What I think is that you made a very strong statement about Islam. When someone challenged you on your assessment, you shut down the discussion, thus essentially saying that you are right, all other perspectives are wrong, and unless everyone agrees with you, there is no point in having a discussion.
  • I'm trying not to confuse nationalism with "radical" religion. The immediate context was that Islam itself was by definition terroristic, which of course is false. Anyway, those Muslims are not blowing up buildings in New Delhi and ordering everyone to convert to Islam -- the "moderates" wouldn't stand for that.
  • letjusticerolldown
    I don't have any one specific point. Just trying to talk it out for myself. I believe most of what we are called to does have a mundane element to it. Doctors get tired of seeing sick people. Counselors get tired of men who can't take a minute to buy their wife a flower. The Wal-Mart cashier gets tired of ringing up one more bag. Oprah sometimes wearies of one more interview of an abused woman.

    If I am called to something, I believe God grants the grace, courage, genius, perspective, creativity, purpose and life to deliver something new and fresh--again and again. God graces us to do it. We also exercise disciplines and variations that feed us and keep things new.

    I guess the point I am getting to is that there are some who need to more actively engage these kinds of conversations with greater vigor and purpose; recreating in their hearts and minds what God is doing in and through them. There are others who ought to do it for a season--just like the Lord might draw us for a season to serve a particular person, or spend extra time in prayer. And there are others for whom the stale nature of conversation is a simple sign to get out.

    All of us, I believe, have an obligation to govern our own participation (whether we dialogue and how we go about it) that to the best of our ability contributes to others' ability to fulfill what God has given them to do.

    I welcome and value your contributions. I would never suggest that the fact I value your words ought be the basis for deciding how much you post. But I do hope it is a little factor--knowing God graces your words to touch others.
  • JohnH54
    So you think the RC position represents a fair discussion of the problems with Islam?
  • rryand35
    Alright. Now I realize that Jesus tells us to turn the other cheek. To pray for those who persecute us. But sometimes this is taken a bit too literally. When it comes down to the lives of thousands of people, who are we to become self-righteous? However, I will not make any judgements on how effective or ineffective "enhanced interrogation" is until documents are released. Or I could go ask Ms. Pelosi what they say!!! :) Besides, water boarding should not be condemned as an evil from the bowels of hell. We do it to our Navy SEALs!!! So are you saying we torture our most elite troups? I think if our most hardened troups can handle it, then so can their most hardened terrorists. Besides, when compared to the deaths they'd receive back in their motherlands, water boarding is like a trip to Disneyland! (Enhanced methods should be used only on the highest level of terrorist leadership and only after all else fails/in situations of dire need. I take John McCains position.)
  • rryand35
    Last I checked, Muslims and Hindis have been killing each other for years in India. Mumbai bombings? Yeah? There are plenty of terrorists in India BlueDeacon. I would suggest checking your facts before you make statements like that. Heck there are muslim terrorists in America! Did you hear about the plan in NYC recently? So why wouldn't there be some in a country 3 times as big with a bigger demographic of muslims. Hmm?

    Islam is not the problem. The problem is there are crazy people who seek to use any means necessary to eliminate the infidel. Some christians tried to do this once, now its the muslims turn.

    Although I disagree with Islam, I respect their ability to exercise their faith. But not if it leads to killing. Thats unacceptable.
  • squeaky
    Sorry to learn you were banned. I wondered where you have been. It's stupid. I don't know what their criteria are if they banned you. I hope you are doing well.
  • squeaky
    "Until and
    unless we can talk frankly about that religion, we will continue to have
    problems."

    In other words, until and unless we can agree that I am right about Islam....
  • nad2
    ljrd,
    your points are well taken. my point, i suppose, is that yes, if my wife & i talked about abortion on a weekly basis, i think we would grow weary of that particular exercise. i have had much to say here on the matter, poured my thoughts into some posts on it, but i cannot get excited about responding to such posts anymore or reading the posts of others whose thoughts i have heard before unless & until there is change on the issue for us to discuss (at which point i would certainly enjoy your thoughts & others' on that). ditto for torture, women in the ministry, iraq, and challenging the RR to take social justice seriously. the staleness is not in the relationships (sidestepping the staleness in the mirror issue!), it is in the topics of conversation. that is an overstatement, and i must give sojo immense credit for interspersing some very interesting and powerful posts amongst those mentioned above (seminary at sing sing prison, the new non-religious, christmas consumerism, to name only a few), and i do post here still from time to time, but far less on the primary topics of conversation, which i think is healthy for me & the forum. and of course, i recognize the importance of having this forum to discuss these topics not just for those who started out posting here who have had these conversations, but for the continuous stream of people who post, so by all means i do not mean to be critical of jim & sojo, who have a wonderful blog, the only blog i ever post on btw. peace to you,
  • carlcopas
    letjustice,

    all valid questions. Doubtless, the fault lies with me and not with other posters or indeed with the stars.
  • letjusticerolldown
    What is the point of staying in dialogue going nowhere??

    Couldn't you pretty much say the same about most human relationships? "Oh, dear wife, your thoughts this morning are so wonderfully new. I never would have imagined you thought like this!"

    Is not the primary capacity for productive dialogue rooted in our own capacity to be transformed and to be transformative?

    Is the staleness in relationship about the relationship or about the one in the mirror?

    I'm only asking.

    I would not encourage anyone to spend time at the computer screen churning out comments unless they sensed clear purpose in doing so.

    Our world has conflicts dating back thousands of years. I would guess they also conclude dialogue to be stale.

    How do you most like to contribute and receive in these kinds of conversations? What makes it productive or not productive towards your own vitality and growth?
  • That's why I suggested that the person leave -- he was getting personal and speaking inappropriately, which detracted from the actual discussion. It happens more often than you might believe.
  • watkins
    sounds like a few at least are straying from the code of conduct for this forum?

    "I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

    I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

    I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)
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