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	<title>Comments on: Reclaiming the Church’s Mission and Message on Immigration</title>
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		<title>By: Keeping faith in President Obama&#8217;s immigration reform vows &#124; Mission &#38; Justice</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/06/17/reclaiming-the-church%e2%80%99s-mission-and-message-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-89296</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeping faith in President Obama&#8217;s immigration reform vows &#124; Mission &#38; Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reclaiming the Church’s Mission and Message on Immigration Bill Mefford; 17/6/09 As things begin to heat up on the immigration debate in Congress, &#8230; I want to draw attention to the tone of current messaging on immigration and call the church to a more biblically shaped prophetic voice. &#8230;  [T]he issue of immigration is fundamentally not a national security issue; it is a human rights issue. The media and many of those in Congress have successfully made this a national security issue and as a result, we have allowed the adoption of policies such as indiscriminate raids, indefinite detention, the breakup of families, and a widespread campaign of fear to spread throughout immigrant communities. To counter this, we must stop framing our message from a national security perspective, and instead, frame our message from the perspective of the suffering of immigrants and their families under the current broken system. Indeed, to frame our message and necessary reforms from the viewpoint of immigrants is to better reflect the witness of Jesus, who was incarnate among the most vulnerable, and who has taught us that in welcoming the stranger, we welcome him. See: http://blog.sojo.net/2009/06/17/reclaiming-the-church%e2%80%99s-mission-and-message-on-immigration/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Reclaiming the Church’s Mission and Message on Immigration Bill Mefford; 17/6/09 As things begin to heat up on the immigration debate in Congress, &#8230; I want to draw attention to the tone of current messaging on immigration and call the church to a more biblically shaped prophetic voice. &#8230;  [T]he issue of immigration is fundamentally not a national security issue; it is a human rights issue. The media and many of those in Congress have successfully made this a national security issue and as a result, we have allowed the adoption of policies such as indiscriminate raids, indefinite detention, the breakup of families, and a widespread campaign of fear to spread throughout immigrant communities. To counter this, we must stop framing our message from a national security perspective, and instead, frame our message from the perspective of the suffering of immigrants and their families under the current broken system. Indeed, to frame our message and necessary reforms from the viewpoint of immigrants is to better reflect the witness of Jesus, who was incarnate among the most vulnerable, and who has taught us that in welcoming the stranger, we welcome him. See: <a href="http://blog.sojo.net/2009/06/17/reclaiming-the-church%e2%80%99s-mission-and-message-on-immigration/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.sojo.net/2009/06/17/reclaiming-the-church%e2%80%99s-mission-and-message-on-immigration/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response Wave.  I wish more people had responded.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll check out what Cato has to say.  I definitely agree that immigration is a net plus for our society, economy and for the immigrants themselves.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your add-ons to my hypothetical plan make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response Wave.  I wish more people had responded.</p>
<p>I&#39;ll check out what Cato has to say.  I definitely agree that immigration is a net plus for our society, economy and for the immigrants themselves.</p>
<p>Your add-ons to my hypothetical plan make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Don, aren&#039;t you glad that that was not a personal attack?! It&#039;s just too bad that that attacker had to tell you that it was not a personal attack so that you would understand that it was not personal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Don, aren&#39;t you glad that that was not a personal attack?! It&#39;s just too bad that that attacker had to tell you that it was not a personal attack so that you would understand that it was not personal.</p>
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		<title>By: WaveTossed</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaveTossed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;one can make a decent case for throwing open the doors to prospective immigrants. After all, if one believes in free-market principles, *countries* should participate in this market of attracting the most talented and skillful people too, right?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are several reasons why our immigration policy needs to be reformed. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  We need to allow employers to legally recruit and hire employees that they need. Not just the &quot;talented&quot; or &quot;skillful&quot; but also those who are able and willing to do menial jobs as well. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. We need to allow people who are willing and able to work have a chance to do just that, and do it legally with full protection and legal wages. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3.  The reason why there are so many &quot;illegals&quot; is that there is a huge backlog at INS. People have to wait for years to get legal papers. The INS needs to take whatever measures it needs to remove this backlog so that people can come legally to the U.S. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are several reasons why this situation with &quot;illegals&quot; is continuing:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. A lack of political will by Congress and the government. This is caused primarily by the uproar from many people, both on the &quot;left&quot; and on the &quot;right&quot; who have the primary agenda to limit ALL immigration, whether legal or not. Some of this opposition to immigration is tinged with racism and xenophobia, particularly against Mexicans. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. Unscrupulous employers who want a continued source of cheap labor. If they can keep the system the way it is, then they can get &quot;illegals&quot; who will work for practically nothing and won&#039;t complain for fear of being turned in and deported. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Basically what we have here with our current immigration system is exploitive human trafficking. I&#039;ve seen people here on this Blog and elsewhere protest against human trafficking if it takes place in faraway countries. However, when this exploitive and oppressive human trafficking takes place right in our own back yard: too many people come up with specious reasons to blame the victims of this trafficking rather than those who are primarily responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;one can make a decent case for throwing open the doors to prospective immigrants. After all, if one believes in free-market principles, *countries* should participate in this market of attracting the most talented and skillful people too, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>There are several reasons why our immigration policy needs to be reformed. </p>
<p>1.  We need to allow employers to legally recruit and hire employees that they need. Not just the &#8220;talented&#8221; or &#8220;skillful&#8221; but also those who are able and willing to do menial jobs as well. </p>
<p>2. We need to allow people who are willing and able to work have a chance to do just that, and do it legally with full protection and legal wages. </p>
<p>3.  The reason why there are so many &#8220;illegals&#8221; is that there is a huge backlog at INS. People have to wait for years to get legal papers. The INS needs to take whatever measures it needs to remove this backlog so that people can come legally to the U.S. </p>
<p>There are several reasons why this situation with &#8220;illegals&#8221; is continuing:</p>
<p>1. A lack of political will by Congress and the government. This is caused primarily by the uproar from many people, both on the &#8220;left&#8221; and on the &#8220;right&#8221; who have the primary agenda to limit ALL immigration, whether legal or not. Some of this opposition to immigration is tinged with racism and xenophobia, particularly against Mexicans. </p>
<p>2. Unscrupulous employers who want a continued source of cheap labor. If they can keep the system the way it is, then they can get &#8220;illegals&#8221; who will work for practically nothing and won&#39;t complain for fear of being turned in and deported. </p>
<p>Basically what we have here with our current immigration system is exploitive human trafficking. I&#39;ve seen people here on this Blog and elsewhere protest against human trafficking if it takes place in faraway countries. However, when this exploitive and oppressive human trafficking takes place right in our own back yard: too many people come up with specious reasons to blame the victims of this trafficking rather than those who are primarily responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: 1Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>1Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don I think you need to read what I wrote again . Did not take your comment as a personal attack at all . In fact the debate was totally closed from your point of view . The blog was written by a quite a leftward position you stated it was speaking for a bibical truth.  I pointed out on that grounds a person would have to take a position they were argueing with Bibical Truth if they disagreed.  Therefore my friend the debate was not with you but the Bible. Not an attack on you at all .  Be glad you have the Bible on your side. The rest of us folks  have to try and figure it out with each other., using a conscience Of the Lord as our guide hopefully .   ;0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don I think you need to read what I wrote again . Did not take your comment as a personal attack at all . In fact the debate was totally closed from your point of view . The blog was written by a quite a leftward position you stated it was speaking for a bibical truth.  I pointed out on that grounds a person would have to take a position they were argueing with Bibical Truth if they disagreed.  Therefore my friend the debate was not with you but the Bible. Not an attack on you at all .  Be glad you have the Bible on your side. The rest of us folks  have to try and figure it out with each other., using a conscience Of the Lord as our guide hopefully .   ;0)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Mick&lt;/b&gt; - Thanks for the response.  I, too, think both Medford and the CT editorial are worth considering.  It&#039;s not an &quot;either/or&quot; situation.  I can have compassion for immigrants (legal and illegal) and still wish that we would enforce our laws a little better.  Equating support for enforcing the law with advocating the state over the needs of the lost and least is flawed logic as &lt;b&gt;letjusticerolldown&lt;/b&gt; nicely makes clear below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Mick</b> &#8211; Thanks for the response.  I, too, think both Medford and the CT editorial are worth considering.  It&#39;s not an &#8220;either/or&#8221; situation.  I can have compassion for immigrants (legal and illegal) and still wish that we would enforce our laws a little better.  Equating support for enforcing the law with advocating the state over the needs of the lost and least is flawed logic as <b>letjusticerolldown</b> nicely makes clear below.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckeyeDon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuckeyeDon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mick, my friend. I&#039;m not sure why everything I write reads to you like a personal attack. Take it easy, my friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mick, my friend. I&#39;m not sure why everything I write reads to you like a personal attack. Take it easy, my friend!</p>
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		<title>By: 1Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>1Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you, Bill, for speaking the biblical truth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;whew ,  thanks Don,  anyone who disagrees with you would have the Bible as their reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you, Bill, for speaking the biblical truth.</p>
<p>whew ,  thanks Don,  anyone who disagrees with you would have the Bible as their reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: letjusticerolldown</title>
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		<dc:creator>letjusticerolldown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure there are so many people having trouble hearing the intent of the author. Who are you referring to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure there are so many people having trouble hearing the intent of the author. Who are you referring to?</p>
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		<title>By: evangeliberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>evangeliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that so many people are having a hard time hearing the intent of this author probably means he is right on target - enforcement of our borders is too much of a given and has gained too great a foothold in the language and theology and worldview of Christians. We have too great a history of forgetting what our true mission is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t think I can tell the difference between most Christians and Lou Dobbs in the way they talk about immigrants. So much talk about being legal by people who bare followers of one who was killed for being a subversive - and all for our benefit! I didn&#039;t hear the writer ignore the importance of national security, he rightly urged the church to focus on what our true calling is: caring for the oppressed and marginalized in society. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope readers will take this for what it is: not a final statement on this issue, but an important corrective for the church that too often goes way off track. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He or she who has ears to hear, let them hear...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that so many people are having a hard time hearing the intent of this author probably means he is right on target &#8211; enforcement of our borders is too much of a given and has gained too great a foothold in the language and theology and worldview of Christians. We have too great a history of forgetting what our true mission is.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think I can tell the difference between most Christians and Lou Dobbs in the way they talk about immigrants. So much talk about being legal by people who bare followers of one who was killed for being a subversive &#8211; and all for our benefit! I didn&#39;t hear the writer ignore the importance of national security, he rightly urged the church to focus on what our true calling is: caring for the oppressed and marginalized in society. </p>
<p>I hope readers will take this for what it is: not a final statement on this issue, but an important corrective for the church that too often goes way off track. </p>
<p>He or she who has ears to hear, let them hear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: paradoxtor</title>
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		<dc:creator>paradoxtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As followers of Jesus, we would do well to remember that the issue of immigration is fundamentally not a national security issue; it is a human rights issue.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, this seems to be assumed and not proven.  More importantly, why is it either/or.  It would appear to me that both are true.  Furthermore, to assert that it is a security issue is not to defend the rights of the state over against defending the rights of immigrants.  It is to defend the people who are here, not some government power.  The one sidedness of this post gives rise to the logical conclusion that nuclearferret poses.  Why do restrict immigration at all?  To bring it down to personal level, does following Christ teaching require that I let any move into my house that wants to?  (I actually think a better case can be made for that from scripture than immigration at a national level.)   I would ask with Eric77 for a discussion (unless you choose to throw the borders wide open) on what is a reasonable basis to decide who comes and who does not.  I&#039;m not sure I have a good answer for that and would like to hear ideas.  I do have some issues for the call to reunite families because 1. it was their choice to separate (and) 2. it creates a never-ending stream because the relative you bring in to reunite is then separated from another relative.  I think everyone agrees that the process needs to be streamlined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As followers of Jesus, we would do well to remember that the issue of immigration is fundamentally not a national security issue; it is a human rights issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>First, this seems to be assumed and not proven.  More importantly, why is it either/or.  It would appear to me that both are true.  Furthermore, to assert that it is a security issue is not to defend the rights of the state over against defending the rights of immigrants.  It is to defend the people who are here, not some government power.  The one sidedness of this post gives rise to the logical conclusion that nuclearferret poses.  Why do restrict immigration at all?  To bring it down to personal level, does following Christ teaching require that I let any move into my house that wants to?  (I actually think a better case can be made for that from scripture than immigration at a national level.)   I would ask with Eric77 for a discussion (unless you choose to throw the borders wide open) on what is a reasonable basis to decide who comes and who does not.  I&#39;m not sure I have a good answer for that and would like to hear ideas.  I do have some issues for the call to reunite families because 1. it was their choice to separate (and) 2. it creates a never-ending stream because the relative you bring in to reunite is then separated from another relative.  I think everyone agrees that the process needs to be streamlined.</p>
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		<title>By: ando</title>
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		<dc:creator>ando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reading Acts, and how the apostles &quot;evangelized&quot; to both Jews and Gentiles, one wonders whose biblical truth is correct.  Did not Peter and the other apostles talk about Christ as the only way to salvation to the outsiders to Jerusalem?  Were they wrong in doing so?  I know it&#039;s not politically correct in the climate of today&#039;s society.  I get more and more confused each day about whose form of Christianity is real, mainly because of reading the Sojo blog.   So let&#039;s open up the borders.  But let&#039;s not hinder the preaching of the word.  Otherwise we&#039;re just blowing a bunch of hot air -- and I hear we don&#039;t need anymore of that in the atmosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reading Acts, and how the apostles &#8220;evangelized&#8221; to both Jews and Gentiles, one wonders whose biblical truth is correct.  Did not Peter and the other apostles talk about Christ as the only way to salvation to the outsiders to Jerusalem?  Were they wrong in doing so?  I know it&#39;s not politically correct in the climate of today&#39;s society.  I get more and more confused each day about whose form of Christianity is real, mainly because of reading the Sojo blog.   So let&#39;s open up the borders.  But let&#39;s not hinder the preaching of the word.  Otherwise we&#39;re just blowing a bunch of hot air &#8212; and I hear we don&#39;t need anymore of that in the atmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: 1Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>1Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m genuinely interested in hearing what people think.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I read the Christianity Today editorial and it sounded quite logical to me .  Secure borders, reaching out to people who come here . Crack down on the employers and such who now are  taking advantage of the poor souls who are coming here because they are in dire straights.  I really have no problem with the view Medford here speaks from , I can discern his view also coming from Biblical perspective , but his intolerance in regards to the editorial to the Christianity today Editorial comes off extreme and lacking  understanding of those who differ with him . His comments such as &quot; Constantinian form of missiology&quot; of a view that wishes to make sure people who come here are not harming others , causing problems for us , including legal immigrants and illegal for that matter appears somewhat narrow.  Nothing unBibiical about finding a way to open your door to strangers and offering them love and hope .  How to do this that allows us to keep doing it and hurting us all is worthy of Christian discussion , If he focused on that as did the Christianity Today essay did perhaps he would have found more room for support in the church .&lt;br&gt; Instead of just &quot;his&quot; superior spiritual and Bibi cal aspect of the church . in which he is implying . Even those of us who may be wrong , wish to do what Christ would have us do . He seems to imply those who disagree do not .  Too bad .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#39;m genuinely interested in hearing what people think.&#8221;</p>
<p>I read the Christianity Today editorial and it sounded quite logical to me .  Secure borders, reaching out to people who come here . Crack down on the employers and such who now are  taking advantage of the poor souls who are coming here because they are in dire straights.  I really have no problem with the view Medford here speaks from , I can discern his view also coming from Biblical perspective , but his intolerance in regards to the editorial to the Christianity today Editorial comes off extreme and lacking  understanding of those who differ with him . His comments such as &#8221; Constantinian form of missiology&#8221; of a view that wishes to make sure people who come here are not harming others , causing problems for us , including legal immigrants and illegal for that matter appears somewhat narrow.  Nothing unBibiical about finding a way to open your door to strangers and offering them love and hope .  How to do this that allows us to keep doing it and hurting us all is worthy of Christian discussion , If he focused on that as did the Christianity Today essay did perhaps he would have found more room for support in the church .<br /> Instead of just &#8220;his&#8221; superior spiritual and Bibi cal aspect of the church . in which he is implying . Even those of us who may be wrong , wish to do what Christ would have us do . He seems to imply those who disagree do not .  Too bad .</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible to have a just, humane immigration policy in which not everyone who wants to come to the United States is able to do so?  Is it unjust to deny a law-abiding person entry to the country?  Or does a just, humane immigration policy basically look like a TSA security line - anyone can come through (with restrictions against criminals and others) provided they show an I.D. of some sort, submit to a simple search and can stay as long as he or she wants?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What would a humane immigration policy look like not just in terms of the immigrants already here, but those to come in the future?  I&#039;m genuinely interested in hearing what people think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to have a just, humane immigration policy in which not everyone who wants to come to the United States is able to do so?  Is it unjust to deny a law-abiding person entry to the country?  Or does a just, humane immigration policy basically look like a TSA security line &#8211; anyone can come through (with restrictions against criminals and others) provided they show an I.D. of some sort, submit to a simple search and can stay as long as he or she wants?</p>
<p>What would a humane immigration policy look like not just in terms of the immigrants already here, but those to come in the future?  I&#39;m genuinely interested in hearing what people think.</p>
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		<title>By: Ngchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ngchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I pointed out previously, the notion that caring for one&#039;s neighbor means that *illegal* immigration must somehow be condoned and embraced is quite a stretch. After all, we have immigration requirements and borders for a reason. However, and here&#039;s where it gets interesting, one can make a decent case for throwing open the doors to prospective immigrants. After all, if one believes in free-market principles, *countries* should participate in this market of attracting the most talented and skillful people too, right?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the meantime, yes of course there is a need to be humane at all times, and every effort should be made to prevent people being left in immigration limbo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I pointed out previously, the notion that caring for one&#39;s neighbor means that *illegal* immigration must somehow be condoned and embraced is quite a stretch. After all, we have immigration requirements and borders for a reason. However, and here&#39;s where it gets interesting, one can make a decent case for throwing open the doors to prospective immigrants. After all, if one believes in free-market principles, *countries* should participate in this market of attracting the most talented and skillful people too, right?</p>
<p>In the meantime, yes of course there is a need to be humane at all times, and every effort should be made to prevent people being left in immigration limbo.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckeyeDon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuckeyeDon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, thank you, thank you, Bill, for speaking the biblical truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, thank you, thank you, Bill, for speaking the biblical truth.</p>
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		<title>By: nuclearferret</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuclearferret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not just take the next step in attempting to be honest and advocate for no borders whatsoever, especially since national security is of no concern of the Church. People want to come, let them come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just take the next step in attempting to be honest and advocate for no borders whatsoever, especially since national security is of no concern of the Church. People want to come, let them come.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! You really hit the nail on the head! Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! You really hit the nail on the head! Thank you.</p>
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