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Why Are People Poor?

by Neeraj Mehta 06-24-2009

Why are people poor? I remember being asked this question 10 years ago while training for a program I was volunteering with. Back then, just out of college, I had little to no first-hand knowledge or experiences with poverty in America and felt completely ill-equipped to answer the question. The only poverty I knew was what I saw visiting India, where it seemed poverty was blamed mostly on systemic failure and karma. In America, it seemed like poverty was mostly blamed on the individual and their individual choices and behavior. In India your caste had the power of determining your place in society; in America it seemed your race had similar effects.

Since first being asked that question10 years ago, my own individual belief system about race and poverty has evolved. My work, my education, and the relationships I have formed across race and class have helped me to understand the complexity of the underlying causes and effects of poverty. Yet, at the same time I am surprised at how little the general American population’s belief system has evolved over a much longer period of time.

In America the general belief system about race and poverty continues to be built upon the foundation that poor people are poor simply because of their choices and behavior. A 2007 Pew Research Center poll reported that an overwhelming percentage of Americans believe that people who are poor do not succeed because of their own shortcomings; only 19 percent emphasized the roll of discrimination or other structural and economic forces that go beyond the control of any one individual.

I guess I can understand that since few themes are as powerful in the American psyche as that of individual responsibility. We treasure notions of individual accomplishment, meritocracy, and equal opportunity, believing that these values translate directly into the daily experience of all Americans. This overly individualistic approach to race and poverty fits nicely within our overall individualistic approach to many life issues. In our imperfect world with its many inequities, however, these values inevitably lead to different outcomes for different individuals.

I think the conversation is much more complicated and needs to include issues like our legacy of racism, segregation, housing, education, transportation, and economic forces to name just a few. Each of these areas, I would argue, has also played a significant role in creating and sustaining poverty in America.

A recent report from the Aspen Institute asked two questions of its audience:

1. How is it that a nation legally committed to equal opportunity for all – regardless of race, creed, national origin, or gender – continually reproduces patterns of racial inequality?

2. Why, in the world’s wealthiest country, is there such enduring poverty among people of color?

I would argue it is because we have a belief system that justifies inequity in America.

john a. powell describes it this way:

We have a storyline that allows us to justify the inequality that exists in our country. We tell each other stories about the culture of poverty and the lack of personal and collective responsibility in racially marginalized communites. We talk about segregation from opportunity in terms of choice, of people just wanting to live with their own. We become armchair sociologists, uninterested and unconcerned with the facts and even less aware of institutional arrangements and the work they do in creating and perpetuating poverty in America.

And the most troubling fact for me is the reality that we will never be able to solve the problem of poverty if we are unable to define the problem accurately. We have to find ways to open up dialogue that will allow us to better understand the complexity and interconnectedness surrounding issues of poverty.

Got any ideas on how to make this happen?

portrait-neeraj-mehtaNeeraj Mehta has been working with others to uncover beauty and strength in north Minneapolis for the past 10 years. Previously he has worked for Project for Pride in Living and most recently as Program and Strategic Development Director for the Sanctuary Community Development Corporation. Currently, he is working with the community building intermediary Payne-Lake Community Partners, partnering with others to create more engaged and powerful communities in the Twin Cities.

Categories: Poverty, Race
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  • psofficial
    I feel GOD made us to help them like food,cloth,shalter etc. so that he will bess us. we are all his creation infront of him we are all equal.
    he definatly going to ask us have we done anything to them.

    we are given shortcut that we can reach to god.
  • claralongsview
    There are more white people on welfare than other ethnicities. White people are poor for many reasons as others, low wages, fewer jobs, inadequate schools and other structural reasons. The things that separates poor whites from poor blacks is that white people have better health outcomes than educated blacks, they have better educational outcomes than poor blacks and in some cases than middle class blacks, the same goes for banking and finance, poor whites have better access to loans, credit and mortagages than blacks with better credit scores. SO whites re poor and suffer alot, yet they are not poor because they are white. While blacks and Latino's outcomes are determined more by skin color.
  • mscynthia
    Instead of always putting the poor on the spot and asking them why they are still poor . . . . lets put the wealthy on the spot instead and ask them why they insist on being rich and powerful. Has it really made their lives more meaningful and fulfilling? Is there some reason they have not all been able to make better choices with their wealth? or found more creative ways to share it with society?
  • kelcore
    Sometimes it is useful to look at an issue by turning it on its head. In this case, perhaps the best way to help people who have never been poor (and therefore have a limited understanding of the day-to-day reality of poverty) to understand it is to ask this question: Why are you NOT poor?

    Here's my response to that question, which helps to demonstrate that I did not get where I am because of my individual choices, but because of all the help I've had along the way:

    I grew up on a farm in a small midwestern town. This allowed me to eat fresh, nutritious food and get lots of fresh air and exercise, and my family is healthy stock. I am a very healthy person as a result and therefore never struggled with debillitating health problems that limited my ability to work.

    Because I grew up in a safe environment, I was free to roam and explore the world around me w/o fearing for my life or safety. I exercised my imagination and creativity in my childhood play. I also had access to community resources like the local library and church groups, which enriched my life and made me a better learner. My high school had a pretty good academic program and a "skill center" that allowed me to work as a part-time legal secretary co-op student beginning in the 12th grade. I held this job for seven years (all through college) and it looked better on my resume later than, for example, a waitressing job would have looked. All of this combined to give me a fairly decent income as a student as well as academic and work opportunities I otherwise would not have had. (Oh, and did I mention that one of the attorneys I worked for played hockey with my dad? I'm sure that helped me land the job in the first place!)

    During college and when I moved away to go to graduate school, my parents helped and supported me in innumerable ways. I have friends who grew up in foster care. Do you know what happens to a foster child when they turn 18? When my friends turned 18, they were removed from their foster home or group home and were given a check for $500 and the down payment on a small, crappy apartment. Their Medicaid ended, so they had no health insurance, and they had nobody to call upon for support when they needed help - financial help, advice, consolation, etc. The simple fact that I had parents who were able to support me in these ways (and the fact that my dad worked a union job and made a pretty decent living as a result) set me on the path to get where I am today. The fact that I'm white helped me, I'm sure, to get my first job in a (sadly) very racist town where I lived for two years after finishing grad school. And the fact that I was a college student when I was experimenting with drugs and alcohol helped to ensure I didn't go to jail for those behaviors, like so many millions of our lower-income brothers and sisters. And what happens to them? What happens to their families and children?

    I could go on and on. The point is, we Americans like to sustain our mass delusion that we all get where we are "on our own". But none of us goes through this world alone, and the resources you called upon and built upon during your life to get where you are today may be completely unavailable to someone else. The choices and decisions that make total sense to you in your middle-class world may seem insane to someone living in griding poverty with no forseeable way out, or in a dangerous neighborhood (or, for that matter, to someone who lives in complete luxury).

    I think we spend too much time making assumptions about people and situations we know nothing about, rather than talking together and learning from each other. My husband grew up on welfare and dropped out of high school. He's now a parapro in a local high school, working full-time and going to college part-time. And did I mention that I had a baby (who was born premature and has cerebral palsy) when I was 18? So, sometimes, our bad decisions do not mean the end of middle-class aspirations -- if we have help along the way to turn things around. I, for one, had tons of help from my family and from the welfare system. That's the reason I didn't have an abortion when I found out I was pregnant and all my friends told me that would be the best decision for me to make.

    But for those without the help that I enjoyed, or for those with a criminal record or for those with disabling health problems (like my friend who died of diabetes at the age of 26, after going blind and losing his legs, because he had no health insurance that would have allowed him to treat and control his illness). Those folks don't have the luxury of just learning from their mistakes. If you have never lived on the edge, you don't know how easy it is to fall overboard and you have no context therefore to understand the choices people make.

    Sorry for the long post. And for those who want to better understand why poor teens often have babies, I highly recommend the book. "Promises I Can Keep". It's very enlightening.
  • ando
    pastor jeff, I'm not sure if that was a compliment, or a criticism!
  • PASTOR JEFF
    Thanks for your vigilance, Ando. It's always good to have an unbiased referee that can throw the flag on all the liberals- who have nothing constructive to say- and one who participates in the game.
  • MJCIV
    Choices for those living in concentrated urban poverty (which I think is the most common type in America, although the 'burbs are developing quite a bit of poverty as well) do make choices, often foolish ones. With that said...poverty limits one's choices to begin with. It's like poor people have to choose between bad options, where those of us with mean have a wider variety of choices to choose from. There is absolutely still free will: people chose to drink, use drugs, have sex, do poorly in school, etc. but the opportunities in high poverty areas--the choices--are far fewer with regard to positive things. Also, as someone pointed out above, the consequences of bad choices are much more severe for the poor.

    Basically, being poor sucks.
  • ando
    neerajmehta,

    I agree with you up to a point. But the problem I have with your argument is that the discussion can go no further. There is racism in this country and various institutions and practices that create inequity. Period. So, then what? This is the case with every country on the planet. We've elected an African-American president and a Democratic Congress. We've seen great strides taken in the last 40 years to address long-term racial issues. But at some point, as Juan Willams, Bill Cosby and others note, there comes a time when groups of people have to rise up against the adversity and not be victims to the very people -- The Left -- who are supposedly trying to help them.

    About 20 years ago, I friend from HS who's living in the Twin Cities lamented how the Hmong would just "whip out their welfare checks" without realizing why they were here in the first place. Reading the book The Late Homecomer written by a women born in the Thai refugee camps reveals how a group of people were persecuted and have also been victims of racism. I don't think you can say that we accept immigrant groups anymore than other minority groups; it's how people respond proactively to their situation.

    I guess we'll agree to disagree. Since this is a Sojo blog, it's what I've come to expect. There's really only one way to think when it comes to Sojourners. How unfortunate for the poor....
  • neerajmehta
    Paradoxter,
    By every choice makes sense, my point is not to judge if that choice is right or wrong, or to excuse certain behavior. My point was simply to acknowledge the difficulty that lies in judging people we don’t know based on what we see from the outside. I have found in my own life, that when I am in relationship with someone, I often can better understand why they do what they do, rather than judging from the outside.

    You ask how these pockets of segregation and concentrated poverty have been created? Well, it would take me too long to do that here. I’ll mention a few things and then guide you to a couple other more thorough resources.
    1. I would argue that the so called universal policies coming out of the New Deal and WWII by and large benefited whites disproportionately.
    2. The history of the Federal Housing authority is one of systemic discrimination (red-lining) that subsidized white middle class home ownership (and subsequent wealth building) and left central cities to decay without needed assistance.
    3. Transportation policy in the 50’s and 60’s also was highly racialized and tore through communities of color, further ripping the fabric of these communities.
    4. The educational benefits provided to veterans in the 50’s provided educational assistance that helped millions of Americans earn a college degree. While this program was designed to be race and gender neutral, in practice it increased the disparities between Blacks and whites and between white men and white women. Most blacks were excluded, rejected, and discouraged from partaking in the benefits of this generous federal program. And the impacts of diminished educational attainment has long last impacts to this day.

    I would recommend two great sources for more info: Urban Injustices: How ghettos happen, and the PBS documentary Race: A power of an Illusion

    I’m lead to believe by your comments that you feel that certain groups have inherent deficits that prevent them from being successful? You’re right while we may not be able to agree, I would argue that seems conflicting with how God created humanity… ? Or am I mistaking your comment here?

    Ando,
    To your point of “the opportunity is there; people just fail to take advantage of them…” I think that is an unsophisticated argument. I mean I’m not trying to be rude, but I just can’t see how we can ignore years of slavery, Jim Crow Segregation, racist housing policy, and other forms of discrimination against Blacks and other minority groups in our country. These have serious impacts still yet today. Someone else earlier I think mentioned something about how immigrant groups have ‘made it’ in America. And again I think that just isn’t be honest to the “belief system” we hold regarding the poor in this country and what effect this has on poverty in our country. We as a country generally show more hospitality to immigrants (see my parents from India) that is much different then what we show African Americans in our country. I would also say that the ‘situatedness’ of blacks in this country creates a long line of mutually reinforcing issues that go much deeper than issues new immigrants or others might have in this country.

    I think in this country we try to look for the ‘conscious’ racist, the bad actor, the evil person when we think about racism in this country. But the reality is that while those people exist, maybe in less frequency then in the past, we still have to deal with institutions and practices that create inequity. And while some policies and systems are created to be neutral in design, that doesn’t mean they are necessarily neutral in impact.

    I’m totally rambling here… I’m out.. Peace .Thanks for talking
  • ando
    I think that Evangelicals for Social Action has done a good job of connecting the two sides of the issue. I have yet to see Sojourners take any view but the one that only structural forces are the source of the problem of poverty. That is probably true in developing countries, but certainly in the United States there are ample opportunities for people to rise above their conditions. I have seen it with some of my students and their families. They make the short-term sacrifices, which has a long tradition across ethnic and cultural groups in this country, in order to achieve long-term gains such as scholarships and better jobs for their children.

    That said, thank you for being the first person at Sojo to at least acknowledge Juan Williams. (His is not the only voice from this perspective in the African-American community. Bill Cosby has said much the same thing, and has been criticized by some on the Left.)
  • paradoxtor
    Thanks for your additonal comments. In my opinion, they are much more constructive than your blog. I do think there are points of disagree and again in my opinion it is very difficult to objectively prove either side. You say, Every decision that any one of us chooses, “makes sense” based on the belief system that drives that behavior. That seems to me to excuse all behaviour. You say, The reality is that social structural forces have created pockets of segregation and concentrated poverty in our country, and restricted choice and opportunity for residents of these communities. How have they created these pockets? How have they restricted choice and opportunity? You say, But I would argue is that these choices and behaviors are often reflective of the impediments put in front of people, rather than inherit to the group themselves. I would disagree with that but this is one of those where I don't see how you prove one way or the other. You say, But one of my other points regarding this article was how we often ended up having one conversation or the other, without creating space to engage a more wholistic conversation that is looking at all sides of the situation.. I did not see that at all as a point in your blog. I will look at Wilson's book.
  • neerajmehta
    I think the conversation regarding culture of poverty and social structure forces is an important one when it comes to discussing the complexity surrounding issues of poverty.

    I agree with those of you who articulate the important of individual choices and behavior and the impact they have on a person’s overall well being. I think the hard part comes when you try to understand the ‘why’ behind a person’s choice and behavior. Every decision that any one of us chooses, “makes sense” based on the belief system that drives that behavior.

    The reality is that social structural forces have created pockets of segregation and concentrated poverty in our country, and restricted choice and opportunity for residents of these communities. At the same time behaviors that do not support social mobility can be created. But I would argue is that these choices and behaviors are often reflective of the impediments put in front of people, rather than inherit to the group themselves.

    When discussing the root causes of poverty we have to pay attention to how structural and cultural forces interact. My own personal belief is that we too often disregard the important of how social structural forces have created and perpetuated inner city poverty. And while I agree that we have to be willing to love and support individuals as they work towards increasing self-sufficiency and family well-being, we have to at the same time address the social structural forces that perpetuate the situations in the first place.

    I have read the book Enough by Juan Williams and understand his viewpoint and his concern for individual responsibility. It’s an important conversation. But one of my other points regarding this article was how we often ended up having one conversation or the other, without creating space to engage a more wholistic conversation that is looking at all sides of the situation. I would recommend the book More than Just Race by William Julius Wilson as someone who recently has attempted to engage a conversation from both sides.

    Additionally, I believe the church is probably best equipped to hold this comprehensive conversation as well, but too often falls into a more polar conversation again focusing simply on individual choice or structural forces in isolation.
  • JamesM
    Sorry you feel the need to squeeze anybody into a "metaphorical box." Have you sought help for that neurosis?

    I really couldn't care less about what box one fits into or not. But always harping on whether SOJO writes about one thing or the other is getting a bit old. Maybe finding a blog that writes what he [Ando] likes (i.e. fits into his box) would be a viable alternative to his very frustration.
  • In seminary, I took a class on theology of poverty, and we read Viv Grigg's Companion to the Poor. He looks at the different words for poverty in the Old Testament, and the New, and how the authors of the books meant different kinds of poverty by the words they used. There was some because of one's laziness, some because of an act of God, some because of injustice...But chief among them was that espoused by Jesus- the voluntary, chosen poverty to come closer to God. For he never said "You shall always have the poor with you." He said, "You shall always have the poor *among* you."
  • justontime
    I feel James' pain.

    It's so frustrating to me when I can't squeeze somebody into a metaphorical box.
  • JamesM
    I will do what you request as soon as you can quit harping on Sojourners for what they do not publish (as if that really adds to the conversation). Of course why would somebody level such an accusation at you?--- one who has broken all of the molds and sterotypes, you maverick, you!--- Peace Corps, international adoption--- a veritable Mother Theresa.
  • ando
    Let us know when you have something to add to the discussion. And don't even think about reading something like the book I mentioned, which might cause some cognitive dissonance. Then a real discussion might actually occur
  • ando
    I agree. There are always many stories out there of people breaking the cycle of poverty through hard work and perseverence. I see it when parents of my students make sacrifices, or tell their children they can only play video games or watch tv on weekends or after their homework is done. These students tend to be more successful in school, and often there are great scholarships awaiting them as a reward for their and their parents sacrifices.
  • paradoxtor
    Once again it is not an either/or answer. I must admit that my personal experience is that the overwhelming majority of poor I have worked with are there by there own choices with the expception of the clearly physically or mentally disabled. That said I also recognize that the fortunes of the family into which you are born has a huge influence. That is a fact of life. It is a harder hill to climb, if your family culture is one that has no vision for something better. My evalutation is that it's not so much laziness as lack of vision and just what I would call a lack of gumption. They have no expectation that there will ever be anything better, so why try. Some seem to be able to overcome this, others do not. I agree that poor choices when you have a good support system do not have the same impact as when you do not. In one sense I don't feel I add much to the discussion as I don't see easy answers. I think that blaming the system just helps to reinforce the culture which tells the individual that they are stuck and there is no hope. On the other hand, we are called to be compassionate and to help. I struggle greatly with how to do this within our church. How to help people in a way that really helps. I can either give someone band-aid support that doesn't significantly change their lives or I can choose to support them permanently, but I have not yet seen an overwhelmingly successful way to teach them the vision and gumption along with some skills that enables them to permanently have self success. We have success with a few but not many. It is always built on relationships.
  • JamesM
    "I've yet to see anyone on a Sojo blog address the issues that people like Juan Williams brings up in his book, "

    I agree. Time to look for another blog!
  • Eric77
    I understand what you mean. Middle class or wealthy people who make bad choices can often live with the consequences or deal with them better because of their money. Poor people don't have those options. People with means have it much easier than people who are poor. But it's much easier to "break the cycle of poverty" if you make good choices. Unfortunately, it's often times much easier to make bad ones, and even encouraged.
  • Nathan Bedford
    Neeraj Mehta,

    You asked if we have any ideas on how we could make this happen {to better understand the complexity and interconnectedness surrounding issues of poverty}. I will respond by citing some things from my background.

    During the depression, my daddy worked at a CCC camp and sent 90% of his earnings home to help my grandparents and my aunts and uncles to survive that period. Then when he married (at age 26), I don't think he and mom ever figured out what casued babies as they had 7 of them over a 20-year span. His wages (minimum wage) was barely enough to put food on the table, but I don't ever remember going hungry. When the surplus food program began during the 1950s, it certainly was appreciated by our family. All of our clothing was used - donated by distant cousins. When I ate my first steak at age 18, I tried cutting it with the edge of my fork because that's the way that we cut the little meat that we shared.

    By today's standards, we would be considered to be poor. But our parents always emphasized the value of education, and we knew that if we studied and worked hard that we could change our standard of living. And that, I think, is key to understanding the cycle of poverty and the difficulty that many families face today in extricating themselves from it. There are many cases of 3 generations sharing a single dwelling and no example where older family members have been successful. Sometimes, children in that environment see people in their neighborhood who have nice things that have been obtained illegally and they model that lifestyle.

    It's so easy to propose simplistic causes for poverty (War on Poverty, laziness, etc) and to urge those in that condition to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. The problem is that in many cases, they have no bootstraps.
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