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	<title>Comments on: Interpretation, Hermeneutics, and Judge Sotomayor</title>
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		<title>By: ando</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/16/interpretation-hermeneutics-and-judge-sotomayor/comment-page-1/#comment-110118</link>
		<dc:creator>ando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes, and the Democrats will lead us to that promised land of &#039;justice and peace for all.&quot;  So unlike the Republicans are they, because they are always looking out for the poor and downtrodden in society.  They always feel our pain, because they&#039;re just like the rest of us, except for those millionaire Senators and Presidents, but that&#039;s another story.  With the Democrats in full control, this country will see how we will alleviate poverty and racism in a single swoop.  But, of course, according to Sojo, &quot;God is not a Republican...or a Democrat.   Yeah, right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, and the Democrats will lead us to that promised land of &#39;justice and peace for all.&#8221;  So unlike the Republicans are they, because they are always looking out for the poor and downtrodden in society.  They always feel our pain, because they&#39;re just like the rest of us, except for those millionaire Senators and Presidents, but that&#39;s another story.  With the Democrats in full control, this country will see how we will alleviate poverty and racism in a single swoop.  But, of course, according to Sojo, &#8220;God is not a Republican&#8230;or a Democrat.   Yeah, right.</p>
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		<title>By: ando</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/16/interpretation-hermeneutics-and-judge-sotomayor/comment-page-1/#comment-106632</link>
		<dc:creator>ando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes, and the Democrats will lead us to that promised land of &#039;justice and peace for all.&quot;  So unlike the Republicans are they, because they are always looking out for the poor and downtrodden in society.  They always feel our pain, because they&#039;re just like the rest of us, except for those millionaire Senators and Presidents, but that&#039;s another story.  With the Democrats in full control, this country will see how we will alleviate poverty and racism in a single swoop.  But, of course, according to Sojo, &quot;God is not a Republican...or a Democrat.   Yeah, right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, and the Democrats will lead us to that promised land of &#39;justice and peace for all.&#8221;  So unlike the Republicans are they, because they are always looking out for the poor and downtrodden in society.  They always feel our pain, because they&#39;re just like the rest of us, except for those millionaire Senators and Presidents, but that&#39;s another story.  With the Democrats in full control, this country will see how we will alleviate poverty and racism in a single swoop.  But, of course, according to Sojo, &#8220;God is not a Republican&#8230;or a Democrat.   Yeah, right.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I know.</p>
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		<title>By: ando</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/16/interpretation-hermeneutics-and-judge-sotomayor/comment-page-1/#comment-93589</link>
		<dc:creator>ando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They still have honorable people, such as Lindsay Graham and Tim Pawlenty.   Pawlenty might become a force in the party mainly because he could be everything that Bush wasn&#039;t, starting with the fact that he&#039;s from a traditionally Democratic Midwestern state and he may well be a compassionate conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They still have honorable people, such as Lindsay Graham and Tim Pawlenty.   Pawlenty might become a force in the party mainly because he could be everything that Bush wasn&#39;t, starting with the fact that he&#39;s from a traditionally Democratic Midwestern state and he may well be a compassionate conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/16/interpretation-hermeneutics-and-judge-sotomayor/comment-page-1/#comment-93585</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Supreme Court was accused by white Southerners of &quot;judicial activism&quot; when it began ruling against segregation laws in the 1950s and &#039;60s.  In fact, Southern states used the legal maneuvers of &quot;nullification&quot; (&quot;it doesn&#039;t apply to us&quot;) and &quot;interposition&quot; (state law supersedes Federal law) to fight those rulings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Supreme Court was accused by white Southerners of &#8220;judicial activism&#8221; when it began ruling against segregation laws in the 1950s and &#39;60s.  In fact, Southern states used the legal maneuvers of &#8220;nullification&#8221; (&#8221;it doesn&#39;t apply to us&#8221;) and &#8220;interposition&#8221; (state law supersedes Federal law) to fight those rulings.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/16/interpretation-hermeneutics-and-judge-sotomayor/comment-page-1/#comment-93588</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t entirely agree.  The Republicans are in disarray because, and only because, the ideologues who run the party permanently drove out nearly everyone who doesn&#039;t agree with them; the Democrats by contrast appear reasonable.  Because such analogous extremists don&#039;t exist proportionately with the Dems, I seriously doubt they&#039;ll similarly overreach.  And in fact, the Democratic Party has become a tad more conservative, especially in the issue of abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t entirely agree.  The Republicans are in disarray because, and only because, the ideologues who run the party permanently drove out nearly everyone who doesn&#39;t agree with them; the Democrats by contrast appear reasonable.  Because such analogous extremists don&#39;t exist proportionately with the Dems, I seriously doubt they&#39;ll similarly overreach.  And in fact, the Democratic Party has become a tad more conservative, especially in the issue of abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: ando</title>
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		<dc:creator>ando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to EJ Dionne and David Brooks on NPR&#039;s All Things Considered&lt;br&gt;today.  They were both saying that the hearings produced little of&lt;br&gt;substance, and noted that the Republicans asked more probing questions than&lt;br&gt;the Democrats.   Others have intimated that Democrats fear that society as a&lt;br&gt;whole is a bit more conservative than they are, and they did not  want&lt;br&gt;people to find out the real Sotomayor.  Personally, I think she should be&lt;br&gt;confirmed, and hope and pray she will stay true to her Catholic roots.&lt;br&gt;The fact that&lt;br&gt;the GOP is in such bad shape should not be something the Democrats&lt;br&gt;should be gloating about; they&#039;re always only one or two elections&lt;br&gt;away from becoming the minority party.     They&#039;re in the majority now&lt;br&gt;only because the Repubs are in such disarray, not because the public&lt;br&gt;sees them in any great light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to EJ Dionne and David Brooks on NPR&#39;s All Things Considered<br />today.  They were both saying that the hearings produced little of<br />substance, and noted that the Republicans asked more probing questions than<br />the Democrats.   Others have intimated that Democrats fear that society as a<br />whole is a bit more conservative than they are, and they did not  want<br />people to find out the real Sotomayor.  Personally, I think she should be<br />confirmed, and hope and pray she will stay true to her Catholic roots.<br />The fact that<br />the GOP is in such bad shape should not be something the Democrats<br />should be gloating about; they&#39;re always only one or two elections<br />away from becoming the minority party.     They&#39;re in the majority now<br />only because the Repubs are in such disarray, not because the public<br />sees them in any great light.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what Randy Barnett wrote about &quot;activism&quot; in the column I posted below.  I agree with him.  It&#039;s a useless term.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;The second empty issue to be discussed is the bugaboo of &quot;judicial activism&quot; and its conjoined twin, &quot;judicial restraint,&quot; which today&#039;s judicial conservatives have inherited from New Deal progressives. But what exactly is &quot;activism&quot;? Is it activism when any popularly enacted law is held unconstitutional? Neither Democrats or Republicans truly believe this, however, since they want judges to strike down laws as unconstitutional when doing so leads to the &quot;right result&quot; (but not when it doesn&#039;t). So judicial activism means thwarting the &quot;will of the people&quot; when critics agree with the people, while they complain about the &quot;tyranny of the majority&quot; when they disagree.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We can do better.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#39;s what Randy Barnett wrote about &#8220;activism&#8221; in the column I posted below.  I agree with him.  It&#39;s a useless term.</p>
<p><i>The second empty issue to be discussed is the bugaboo of &#8220;judicial activism&#8221; and its conjoined twin, &#8220;judicial restraint,&#8221; which today&#39;s judicial conservatives have inherited from New Deal progressives. But what exactly is &#8220;activism&#8221;? Is it activism when any popularly enacted law is held unconstitutional? Neither Democrats or Republicans truly believe this, however, since they want judges to strike down laws as unconstitutional when doing so leads to the &#8220;right result&#8221; (but not when it doesn&#39;t). So judicial activism means thwarting the &#8220;will of the people&#8221; when critics agree with the people, while they complain about the &#8220;tyranny of the majority&#8221; when they disagree.</p>
<p>We can do better.</i></p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/16/interpretation-hermeneutics-and-judge-sotomayor/comment-page-1/#comment-89967</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why you study as much history as you can, from all sides if possible.  And yes, it&#039;s tedious but necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why you study as much history as you can, from all sides if possible.  And yes, it&#39;s tedious but necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: xfree9</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/16/interpretation-hermeneutics-and-judge-sotomayor/comment-page-1/#comment-89964</link>
		<dc:creator>xfree9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bigger picture&quot; and &quot;immediate historical context&quot; based on whose perspective? A libertarian will look at the &quot;context&quot; differently from a progressive or a conservative. Conservatives tend to look at the &quot;context&quot; in a moralistic sort of way (religious conservatives want to retain the &quot;Christian nation&quot; format that the founders &quot;started&quot;—which is a bunch of hogwash). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even if we agreed upon a method of understanding the Constitution, there are further questions regarding &quot;context&quot; or &quot;literal&quot; or &quot;bigger picture.&quot; I&#039;m not attacking your critique, I&#039;m simply pointing out that &quot;bigger picture&quot; is vague at best because there are varying understandings of that &quot;bigger picture.&quot; You and I quite obviously disagree on some of these things, based on past exchanges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bigger picture&#8221; and &#8220;immediate historical context&#8221; based on whose perspective? A libertarian will look at the &#8220;context&#8221; differently from a progressive or a conservative. Conservatives tend to look at the &#8220;context&#8221; in a moralistic sort of way (religious conservatives want to retain the &#8220;Christian nation&#8221; format that the founders &#8220;started&#8221;—which is a bunch of hogwash). </p>
<p>Even if we agreed upon a method of understanding the Constitution, there are further questions regarding &#8220;context&#8221; or &#8220;literal&#8221; or &#8220;bigger picture.&#8221; I&#39;m not attacking your critique, I&#39;m simply pointing out that &#8220;bigger picture&#8221; is vague at best because there are varying understandings of that &#8220;bigger picture.&#8221; You and I quite obviously disagree on some of these things, based on past exchanges.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/16/interpretation-hermeneutics-and-judge-sotomayor/comment-page-1/#comment-89959</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never go by what someone says -- go by what he/she &lt;I&gt;does.&lt;/I&gt;  The Federalist Society is in fact outright lying when it makes that statement of purpose, and in fact the &quot;Roberts Court&quot; has shown itself to be quite activist in at least three major decisions.  That&#039;s the reason Miguel Estrada was filibustered for an appellate court position some years back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never go by what someone says &#8212; go by what he/she <i>does.</i>  The Federalist Society is in fact outright lying when it makes that statement of purpose, and in fact the &#8220;Roberts Court&#8221; has shown itself to be quite activist in at least three major decisions.  That&#39;s the reason Miguel Estrada was filibustered for an appellate court position some years back.</p>
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		<title>By: xfree9</title>
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		<dc:creator>xfree9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What historical facts? That Roberts and Alito are part of the Federalist Society? Cuz the other two statements are opinion and observation and interpretation of events, not &quot;historical facts.&quot; That they&#039;re members of a group I can&#039;t refute, of course. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the Fed Society&#039;s own page, it &quot;is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be.... This entails reordering priorities within the legal system to place a premium on individual liberty, traditional values, and the rule of law.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wow, I&#039;m scared! Such activism to make sure the Constitution is applied, not reinterpreted by judges who don&#039;t quite like the laws. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And you cannot prove that it is &quot;by definition activist&quot; unless you admit that any endeavor to propagate a philosophy of politics or legal framework is also... which kinda means just about every political or religious organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What historical facts? That Roberts and Alito are part of the Federalist Society? Cuz the other two statements are opinion and observation and interpretation of events, not &#8220;historical facts.&#8221; That they&#39;re members of a group I can&#39;t refute, of course. </p>
<p>On the Fed Society&#39;s own page, it &#8220;is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be&#8230;. This entails reordering priorities within the legal system to place a premium on individual liberty, traditional values, and the rule of law.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, I&#39;m scared! Such activism to make sure the Constitution is applied, not reinterpreted by judges who don&#39;t quite like the laws. </p>
<p>And you cannot prove that it is &#8220;by definition activist&#8221; unless you admit that any endeavor to propagate a philosophy of politics or legal framework is also&#8230; which kinda means just about every political or religious organization.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you make any snarky comments about &quot;left&quot; and &quot;right,&quot; refute the historical facts I just laid out.  And that&#039;s all I will say at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you make any snarky comments about &#8220;left&#8221; and &#8220;right,&#8221; refute the historical facts I just laid out.  And that&#39;s all I will say at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: xfree9</title>
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		<dc:creator>xfree9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when the Left doesn&#039;t attack, it&#039;s for good reason. When the Right attacks, it&#039;s for political reasons. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, the days when I used to think of things in &quot;Left&quot; and &quot;Right.&quot; Made arguing so much easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when the Left doesn&#39;t attack, it&#39;s for good reason. When the Right attacks, it&#39;s for political reasons. </p>
<p>Oh, the days when I used to think of things in &#8220;Left&#8221; and &#8220;Right.&#8221; Made arguing so much easier.</p>
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		<title>By: titopoet</title>
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		<dc:creator>titopoet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comments. To answer some of them, on &lt;a href=&quot;http://law.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;law.com&lt;/a&gt;, strict constructionism is defined:&lt;br&gt;n. interpreting the Constitution based on a literal and narrow definition of the language without reference to the differences in conditions when the Constitution was written and modern conditions, inventions and societal changes. By contrast &quot;broad construction&quot; looks to what someone thinks was the &quot;intent&quot; of the framers&#039; language and expands and interprets the language extensively to meet current standards of human conduct and complexity of society.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The same division happens in biblical hermeneutics, the so call hermeneutical circle. The term &quot;activist judge&quot; is a insult thrown at another judge. I think anyone would be hard pressed to find any Federal judge who says they are an activist judge, though I could quickly find judges charged with be an activist judge. One man activist is another&#039;s upholder of the constitution and that echos the battles in biblical hermeneutics, which was my point. One last point is with term, strict constructionism (and I should have made this point, apologises) I used it was more as it is used political realm, when politicians use the term, as Nixon did in relation to the Warren court.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Sotomayer hearings are that the intersection of Law and Politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comments. To answer some of them, on <a href="http://law.com" rel="nofollow">law.com</a>, strict constructionism is defined:<br />n. interpreting the Constitution based on a literal and narrow definition of the language without reference to the differences in conditions when the Constitution was written and modern conditions, inventions and societal changes. By contrast &#8220;broad construction&#8221; looks to what someone thinks was the &#8220;intent&#8221; of the framers&#39; language and expands and interprets the language extensively to meet current standards of human conduct and complexity of society.</p>
<p>The same division happens in biblical hermeneutics, the so call hermeneutical circle. The term &#8220;activist judge&#8221; is a insult thrown at another judge. I think anyone would be hard pressed to find any Federal judge who says they are an activist judge, though I could quickly find judges charged with be an activist judge. One man activist is another&#39;s upholder of the constitution and that echos the battles in biblical hermeneutics, which was my point. One last point is with term, strict constructionism (and I should have made this point, apologises) I used it was more as it is used political realm, when politicians use the term, as Nixon did in relation to the Warren court.</p>
<p>The Sotomayer hearings are that the intersection of Law and Politics.</p>
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		<title>By: SisterMarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>SisterMarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the Latina voters in Texas and Alabama will take note of how those who represent them in the Senate are treating one of their own and carry that memory into the voting booth when these men are up for reelection.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I used to think that the Republican Party could do nothing to marginalize themselves any more than they had already. I was wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the Latina voters in Texas and Alabama will take note of how those who represent them in the Senate are treating one of their own and carry that memory into the voting booth when these men are up for reelection.</p>
<p>I used to think that the Republican Party could do nothing to marginalize themselves any more than they had already. I was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things to consider:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The GOP is in such bad shape that they can&#039;t appear to oppose a Latino candidate for fear they would lose even more of those votes.  Also, Roberts and Alito are members of the Federalist Society, a right-wing legal fraternity that is by definition activist; the reason Robert Bork was voted down some 20 years ago was that he made that a little too obvious.</description>
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<p>The GOP is in such bad shape that they can&#39;t appear to oppose a Latino candidate for fear they would lose even more of those votes.  Also, Roberts and Alito are members of the Federalist Society, a right-wing legal fraternity that is by definition activist; the reason Robert Bork was voted down some 20 years ago was that he made that a little too obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Ngchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ngchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something I heard from my brother who&#039;s a lawyer is that yes, many schools of interpretation exist in terms of constitutional interpretation. All schools have moments where they shine, as well as moments where they&#039;d perform poorly. For instance, it&#039;s hard to come up with a originalist defense of Brown v. Board of Education the way it came out, since segregated schools were set up in the late 19th century, by some of the people who supported the 14th amendment. The court was forced to rule the way it did, since segregation proved to be a failure (not to mention wrong) in terms of what the 14th amendment was meant to accomplish. &quot;Separate but equal&quot; proved to be an impossibility.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;FWIW, the courts are *designed* to be a conservative check on the rest of government, in that changes there are supposed to take place slowest of all. In terms of problems with the &quot;living constitution,&quot; yes the problem is how it then, pushed to its logical conclusion, the constitution means whatever the court wants it to mean. And ultimately, it has to mean *something* objective.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For the disasterous effects of trying to read too much into the constitution, see the Dred Scott case and Roe for examples. Also, consider Lochner for an economic example. Contrast that to the women&#039;s vote case(s), where the court refused to interpret &quot;equal protection&quot; to include votes for women, and the subsequent ratification of the 19th amendment. Was that ideal? No. But the process does have much more democratic legitimacy since it wasn&#039;t imposed by the court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I heard from my brother who&#39;s a lawyer is that yes, many schools of interpretation exist in terms of constitutional interpretation. All schools have moments where they shine, as well as moments where they&#39;d perform poorly. For instance, it&#39;s hard to come up with a originalist defense of Brown v. Board of Education the way it came out, since segregated schools were set up in the late 19th century, by some of the people who supported the 14th amendment. The court was forced to rule the way it did, since segregation proved to be a failure (not to mention wrong) in terms of what the 14th amendment was meant to accomplish. &#8220;Separate but equal&#8221; proved to be an impossibility.</p>
<p>FWIW, the courts are *designed* to be a conservative check on the rest of government, in that changes there are supposed to take place slowest of all. In terms of problems with the &#8220;living constitution,&#8221; yes the problem is how it then, pushed to its logical conclusion, the constitution means whatever the court wants it to mean. And ultimately, it has to mean *something* objective.</p>
<p>For the disasterous effects of trying to read too much into the constitution, see the Dred Scott case and Roe for examples. Also, consider Lochner for an economic example. Contrast that to the women&#39;s vote case(s), where the court refused to interpret &#8220;equal protection&#8221; to include votes for women, and the subsequent ratification of the 19th amendment. Was that ideal? No. But the process does have much more democratic legitimacy since it wasn&#39;t imposed by the court.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh-huh -- often ignoring the immediate historical context as well as the bigger picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh-huh &#8212; often ignoring the immediate historical context as well as the bigger picture.</p>
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		<title>By: xfree9</title>
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		<dc:creator>xfree9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, a &quot;living constitution&quot; means changing it, and the Constitution itself provides how to make it &quot;living.&quot; Otherwise we could interpret it to mean whatever we pleased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a &#8220;living constitution&#8221; means changing it, and the Constitution itself provides how to make it &#8220;living.&#8221; Otherwise we could interpret it to mean whatever we pleased.</p>
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