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	<title>Comments on: A Plea for a New Generation of Republican Leadership</title>
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		<title>By: Video: Sen. Lindsey Graham Calls out Conservative Fringe &#124; The Just Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Video: Sen. Lindsey Graham Calls out Conservative Fringe &#124; The Just Life</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] recently what soulful leadership looks like in the Republican Party.  Republicans have been in danger recently of losing their party&#8217;s soul.  With talk-show hosts playing on the fears of the fringes, Republicans are running the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Video: Sen. Lindsey Graham Calls out Conservative Fringe - Margaret Benefiel - God&#8217;s Politics Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Video: Sen. Lindsey Graham Calls out Conservative Fringe - Margaret Benefiel - God&#8217;s Politics Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recently what soulful leadership looks like in the Republican Party.  Republicans have been in danger recently of losing their party&#8217;s soul.  With talk-show hosts playing on the fears of the fringes, Republicans are running the risk of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rabbitale</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/a-plea-for-a-new-generation-of-republican-leadership/comment-page-2/#comment-111678</link>
		<dc:creator>rabbitale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so often saddened at the cutting remarks of persons who call themselves Christians.  To be pointed is no sin, as Christ Himself regularly displayed, but to accuse and to use labels is unseemly. With some thought we all can identify who the Accuser of the Brethren is.&lt;br&gt;Is there a reason, brothers and sisters of various political opinions, that we cannot discuss issues without labeling each other?&lt;br&gt;My spirit is very distressed.  No doubt many of us have spit out our replies with little thought. I fear we worship a god who looks rather like us.  Let us study the Gospels again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so often saddened at the cutting remarks of persons who call themselves Christians.  To be pointed is no sin, as Christ Himself regularly displayed, but to accuse and to use labels is unseemly. With some thought we all can identify who the Accuser of the Brethren is.<br />Is there a reason, brothers and sisters of various political opinions, that we cannot discuss issues without labeling each other?<br />My spirit is very distressed.  No doubt many of us have spit out our replies with little thought. I fear we worship a god who looks rather like us.  Let us study the Gospels again.</p>
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		<title>By: xfree9</title>
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		<dc:creator>xfree9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to backtrack! I should try this sometime when I say something stupid (which I have!) (I&#039;m kidding, really)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to backtrack! I should try this sometime when I say something stupid (which I have!) (I&#39;m kidding, really)</p>
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		<title>By: rabbitale</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/a-plea-for-a-new-generation-of-republican-leadership/comment-page-2/#comment-106232</link>
		<dc:creator>rabbitale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so often saddened at the cutting remarks of persons who call themselves Christians.  To be pointed is no sin, as Christ Himself regularly displayed, but to accuse and to use labels is unseemly. With some thought we all can identify who the Accuser of the Brethren is.&lt;br&gt;Is there a reason, brothers and sisters of various political opinions, that we cannot discuss issues without labeling each other?&lt;br&gt;My spirit is very distressed.  No doubt many of us have spit out our replies with little thought. I fear we worship a god who looks rather like us.  Let us study the Gospels again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so often saddened at the cutting remarks of persons who call themselves Christians.  To be pointed is no sin, as Christ Himself regularly displayed, but to accuse and to use labels is unseemly. With some thought we all can identify who the Accuser of the Brethren is.<br />Is there a reason, brothers and sisters of various political opinions, that we cannot discuss issues without labeling each other?<br />My spirit is very distressed.  No doubt many of us have spit out our replies with little thought. I fear we worship a god who looks rather like us.  Let us study the Gospels again.</p>
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		<title>By: xfree9</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/a-plea-for-a-new-generation-of-republican-leadership/comment-page-2/#comment-106233</link>
		<dc:creator>xfree9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to backtrack! I should try this sometime when I say something stupid (which I have!) (I&#039;m kidding, really)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to backtrack! I should try this sometime when I say something stupid (which I have!) (I&#39;m kidding, really)</p>
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		<title>By: lumens</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/a-plea-for-a-new-generation-of-republican-leadership/comment-page-2/#comment-106234</link>
		<dc:creator>lumens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatism isn&#039;t at all a populist ideology.  It&#039;s not &quot;against&lt;br&gt;something&quot;.  It&#039;s against centralized governmental power, in part because&lt;br&gt;government is beholden to special interests.  They lost in 2006, in part&lt;br&gt;because the pendelum always swings the other way, and in part because their&lt;br&gt;engagement of special interests rendered the party as hypocrites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatism isn&#39;t at all a populist ideology.  It&#39;s not &#8220;against<br />something&#8221;.  It&#39;s against centralized governmental power, in part because<br />government is beholden to special interests.  They lost in 2006, in part<br />because the pendelum always swings the other way, and in part because their<br />engagement of special interests rendered the party as hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Whether they make a major dent, or reclaim the house, depends on whether&lt;br&gt;they can come up with a consistent, clear alternative.  That alternative is&lt;br&gt;conservatism.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is precisely why the Republicans will lose if they do; much of the&lt;br&gt;country outside the South has actually rejected it.  Conservatism as a&lt;br&gt;populist ideology by its very nature is reactionary -- that is,&lt;br&gt;&lt;I&gt;&quot;against&lt;/I&gt; something&quot; -- and the reason it started losing elections in&lt;br&gt;2006 was because it was finally exposed as being more for themselves and their&lt;br&gt;&quot;special interests&quot; than for the people they supposedly represented.  Keep in&lt;br&gt;mind the lobbying scandal that ensnared a number of GOP candidates that year&lt;br&gt;was in fact was part and parcel of conservative culture from the outset&lt;br&gt;because its ultimate agenda always was to consolidate power in fewer and fewer&lt;br&gt;hands.  But the badmouthing that conservatives still do against a&lt;br&gt;still-ineffective &quot;left&quot; will eventually wear thin, and I&#039;m already predicting&lt;br&gt;an Obama landslide in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Whether they make a major dent, or reclaim the house, depends on whether<br />they can come up with a consistent, clear alternative.  That alternative is<br />conservatism.</i></p>
<p>That is precisely why the Republicans will lose if they do; much of the<br />country outside the South has actually rejected it.  Conservatism as a<br />populist ideology by its very nature is reactionary &#8212; that is,<br /><i>&#8220;against</i> something&#8221; &#8212; and the reason it started losing elections in<br />2006 was because it was finally exposed as being more for themselves and their<br />&#8220;special interests&#8221; than for the people they supposedly represented.  Keep in<br />mind the lobbying scandal that ensnared a number of GOP candidates that year<br />was in fact was part and parcel of conservative culture from the outset<br />because its ultimate agenda always was to consolidate power in fewer and fewer<br />hands.  But the badmouthing that conservatives still do against a<br />still-ineffective &#8220;left&#8221; will eventually wear thin, and I&#39;m already predicting<br />an Obama landslide in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: lumens</title>
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		<dc:creator>lumens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are newly registered Democrats in every state.  The Dems have had&lt;br&gt;momentum.  They do not at this point.  The polls take into account those&lt;br&gt;newly registered Democrats.  I wouldn&#039;t call Toomey a favorite in the&lt;br&gt;election, as Specter will probably play up his conservative credentials.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My broader point about the future of the party wasn&#039;t simply based on the&lt;br&gt;existence of Pat Toomey, so there isn&#039;t much point assessing his electoral&lt;br&gt;prospects, fun as it is to do so.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would argue that Clinton changed the calculation for Democrats, thanks to&lt;br&gt;the revolution of 1994.  Obama is certainly following his playbook, trying&lt;br&gt;to advance the bulk of his agenda early on so he can run to the middle later&lt;br&gt;in his campaign.  Unfortunately, this plan sort of sacrifices the midterm&lt;br&gt;elections.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Republicans will almost assuredly gain seats in 2010.  Whether they make&lt;br&gt;a major dent, or reclaim the house, depends on whether they can come up with&lt;br&gt;a consistent, clear alternative.  That alternative is conservatism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are newly registered Democrats in every state.  The Dems have had<br />momentum.  They do not at this point.  The polls take into account those<br />newly registered Democrats.  I wouldn&#39;t call Toomey a favorite in the<br />election, as Specter will probably play up his conservative credentials.</p>
<p>My broader point about the future of the party wasn&#39;t simply based on the<br />existence of Pat Toomey, so there isn&#39;t much point assessing his electoral<br />prospects, fun as it is to do so.</p>
<p>I would argue that Clinton changed the calculation for Democrats, thanks to<br />the revolution of 1994.  Obama is certainly following his playbook, trying<br />to advance the bulk of his agenda early on so he can run to the middle later<br />in his campaign.  Unfortunately, this plan sort of sacrifices the midterm<br />elections.</p>
<p>The Republicans will almost assuredly gain seats in 2010.  Whether they make<br />a major dent, or reclaim the house, depends on whether they can come up with<br />a consistent, clear alternative.  That alternative is conservatism.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;The average voter, at this point, is inclined to&lt;br&gt;favor Toomey, even though he&#039;s conservative. It&#039;s a myth that the&lt;br&gt;electorate has shifted leftward ideologically. There remain far more&lt;br&gt;conservatives than liberals.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have zero basis on which to make that statement because you clearly don&#039;t know what goes on in Pennsylvania.  In fact, Democratic registration has actually increased over the past five or so years in reaction to the heavy-handedness of the conservatives who run the GOP nationally.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;I&gt;Introduces a slightly different slate of&lt;br&gt;governmental programs is not a winning message.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As if your agenda is.  In fact, Bill Clinton permanently changed the calculus at the expense of the conservative movement, which is still trying desperately to channel Ronald Reagan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The average voter, at this point, is inclined to<br />favor Toomey, even though he&#39;s conservative. It&#39;s a myth that the<br />electorate has shifted leftward ideologically. There remain far more<br />conservatives than liberals.</i></p>
<p>You have zero basis on which to make that statement because you clearly don&#39;t know what goes on in Pennsylvania.  In fact, Democratic registration has actually increased over the past five or so years in reaction to the heavy-handedness of the conservatives who run the GOP nationally.</p>
<p><i>Introduces a slightly different slate of<br />governmental programs is not a winning message.</i></p>
<p>As if your agenda is.  In fact, Bill Clinton permanently changed the calculus at the expense of the conservative movement, which is still trying desperately to channel Ronald Reagan.</p>
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		<title>By: lumens</title>
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		<dc:creator>lumens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure the gap will close as the battle wears on.  The primary has&lt;br&gt;nothing to do with it.  The average voter, at this point, is inclined to&lt;br&gt;favor Toomey, even though he&#039;s conservative.  It&#039;s a myth that the&lt;br&gt;electorate has shifted leftward ideologically.  There remain far more&lt;br&gt;conservatives than liberals.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the Republicans send a bunch of centrist candidates to bat in 2010, they&lt;br&gt;will lose because their message will not be sufficiently distinct from that&lt;br&gt;of moderate Democrats.  They need to make the case that Obama has committed&lt;br&gt;trillions of dollars, that the impact has been negligible, and that there is&lt;br&gt;a very good reason why this is so.  Introduces a slightly different slate of&lt;br&gt;governmental programs is not a winning message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure the gap will close as the battle wears on.  The primary has<br />nothing to do with it.  The average voter, at this point, is inclined to<br />favor Toomey, even though he&#39;s conservative.  It&#39;s a myth that the<br />electorate has shifted leftward ideologically.  There remain far more<br />conservatives than liberals.</p>
<p>If the Republicans send a bunch of centrist candidates to bat in 2010, they<br />will lose because their message will not be sufficiently distinct from that<br />of moderate Democrats.  They need to make the case that Obama has committed<br />trillions of dollars, that the impact has been negligible, and that there is<br />a very good reason why this is so.  Introduces a slightly different slate of<br />governmental programs is not a winning message.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/a-plea-for-a-new-generation-of-republican-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-106239</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s only because the campaign hasn&#039;t started and Specter has competition in&lt;br&gt;the Democratic primary.  It wasn&#039;t Toomey that pushed him out; it was the fact&lt;br&gt;that his power base, the Rockefeller Republicans that dominated the&lt;br&gt;Philadelphia suburbs and the only true swing area in Pennsylvania, largely&lt;br&gt;became Democratic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And as for the GOP not winning by staking out middle ground, that&#039;s the&lt;br&gt;standard conservative line.  The right is still trying to convince itself that&lt;br&gt;&quot;doctrinal purity&quot; won them elections -- nonsense, it was the fact that until&lt;br&gt;recently its agenda mirrored the mood of the country.  Times have changed, but&lt;br&gt;it hasn&#039;t changed with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s only because the campaign hasn&#39;t started and Specter has competition in<br />the Democratic primary.  It wasn&#39;t Toomey that pushed him out; it was the fact<br />that his power base, the Rockefeller Republicans that dominated the<br />Philadelphia suburbs and the only true swing area in Pennsylvania, largely<br />became Democratic.</p>
<p>And as for the GOP not winning by staking out middle ground, that&#39;s the<br />standard conservative line.  The right is still trying to convince itself that<br />&#8220;doctrinal purity&#8221; won them elections &#8212; nonsense, it was the fact that until<br />recently its agenda mirrored the mood of the country.  Times have changed, but<br />it hasn&#39;t changed with them.</p>
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		<title>By: seekingdisciple</title>
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		<dc:creator>seekingdisciple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When President George H.W. Bush gave a school speech much like Obama did, the Democrats cried foul and yet the liberal media said nothing yet somehow when Republicans do it it turns into cries of racism, etc.  Sorry Brian, your double standard is wrong in this case.  Your liberal world vision leads you to write such pieces like this that do nothing for Christianity nor conservatives like myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When President George H.W. Bush gave a school speech much like Obama did, the Democrats cried foul and yet the liberal media said nothing yet somehow when Republicans do it it turns into cries of racism, etc.  Sorry Brian, your double standard is wrong in this case.  Your liberal world vision leads you to write such pieces like this that do nothing for Christianity nor conservatives like myself.</p>
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		<title>By: lumens</title>
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		<dc:creator>lumens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toomey is ahead of Specter (the guy he pushed out of the GOP) in the polls,&lt;br&gt;so he certainly has a chance to get elected.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have seen no evidence over the last several decades that Republicans&lt;br&gt;benefit electorally from staking the middle ground.  That just hasn&#039;t played&lt;br&gt;out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toomey is ahead of Specter (the guy he pushed out of the GOP) in the polls,<br />so he certainly has a chance to get elected.</p>
<p>I have seen no evidence over the last several decades that Republicans<br />benefit electorally from staking the middle ground.  That just hasn&#39;t played<br />out.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re any better?</description>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/a-plea-for-a-new-generation-of-republican-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-106243</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;I think that folks like Pat Toomey, Steve Laffey, Michael Steele, Tim Pawlenty and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then the future of the party is bleak indeed.  Toomey is as extreme as it comes -- he was president of the Club for Growth -- and doesn&#039;t have much of a chance to get elected because his kind pushed moderates out of the GOP in Pennsylvania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think that folks like Pat Toomey, Steve Laffey, Michael Steele, Tim Pawlenty and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party.</i></p>
<p>Then the future of the party is bleak indeed.  Toomey is as extreme as it comes &#8212; he was president of the Club for Growth &#8212; and doesn&#39;t have much of a chance to get elected because his kind pushed moderates out of the GOP in Pennsylvania.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, you showed that, in this instance, you truly don&#039;t know&lt;br&gt;what you&#039;re talking about.  And I have a problem with that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For openers, you mentioned that the Democratic Party was the true oppressor of&lt;br&gt;African-Americans; however, that was true only in the South because the&lt;br&gt;Republican Party was quite literally persona non grata down there because it&lt;br&gt;destroyed slavery.  Blacks began to switch to the Democratic Party in the&lt;br&gt;North thanks to FDR, which is why the national Democratic Party eventually&lt;br&gt;became supportive of civil rights; in response, the reactionary right began&lt;br&gt;going Republican, where it has remained today.  This is historical fact, and&lt;br&gt;if you don&#039;t want to accept it ... well, I can&#039;t help you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the &quot;moral element,&quot; that&#039;s also ridiculous because those issues didn&#039;t&lt;br&gt;come to light until the 1970s at the earliest.  &lt;I&gt;Roe v. Wade&lt;/I&gt; took place&lt;br&gt;only in 1973 and gay rights didn&#039;t become an issue until about a decade later,&lt;br&gt;and even there the folks who took the &quot;conservative&quot; side even today represent&lt;br&gt;only a minority of voters.  On top of that, even many African-Americans are&lt;br&gt;anti-abortion and anti-gay-marriage, but that doesn&#039;t stop them from&lt;br&gt;supporting Democratic candidates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The point is that the conservative movement has always tried to run away from&lt;br&gt;its shameful record on race and racism; if anyone is resentful here it&#039;s the&lt;br&gt;right because it doesn&#039;t want to face the reality that it consistently has&lt;br&gt;acted unjustly.  This particular thread, because of the touchiness of the&lt;br&gt;conservatives that have contributed to it, has proved that beyond a doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, you showed that, in this instance, you truly don&#39;t know<br />what you&#39;re talking about.  And I have a problem with that.</p>
<p>For openers, you mentioned that the Democratic Party was the true oppressor of<br />African-Americans; however, that was true only in the South because the<br />Republican Party was quite literally persona non grata down there because it<br />destroyed slavery.  Blacks began to switch to the Democratic Party in the<br />North thanks to FDR, which is why the national Democratic Party eventually<br />became supportive of civil rights; in response, the reactionary right began<br />going Republican, where it has remained today.  This is historical fact, and<br />if you don&#39;t want to accept it &#8230; well, I can&#39;t help you.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;moral element,&#8221; that&#39;s also ridiculous because those issues didn&#39;t<br />come to light until the 1970s at the earliest.  <i>Roe v. Wade</i> took place<br />only in 1973 and gay rights didn&#39;t become an issue until about a decade later,<br />and even there the folks who took the &#8220;conservative&#8221; side even today represent<br />only a minority of voters.  On top of that, even many African-Americans are<br />anti-abortion and anti-gay-marriage, but that doesn&#39;t stop them from<br />supporting Democratic candidates.</p>
<p>The point is that the conservative movement has always tried to run away from<br />its shameful record on race and racism; if anyone is resentful here it&#39;s the<br />right because it doesn&#39;t want to face the reality that it consistently has<br />acted unjustly.  This particular thread, because of the touchiness of the<br />conservatives that have contributed to it, has proved that beyond a doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: Huntergreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huntergreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlueDeacon, I very rarely comment on blogs, mostly because I don&#039;t have the time, but partly because people are so blinded by the the rhetoric fed them. Once you swallow that pill your not your own person. For the record, I choose not to be D or R because it causes you to defend what you don&#039;t embrace.&lt;br&gt;Each of your citations seem to be taken with narrow field of view as if you are trying extrapolate the tidbits from each that form your worldview.  Do yourself a favor and dispense with the filters that form opinions and drop the resentments. I don&#039;t deny there are Southern bigots (as well as anywhere else) but that is not the primary reason of the migration. Its the moral element.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ask yourself why the Blue areas of this country are so bankrupt. Crime and corruption is many many times higher. Demographics alone should cause people to reassess developed opinions. I wish you well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlueDeacon, I very rarely comment on blogs, mostly because I don&#39;t have the time, but partly because people are so blinded by the the rhetoric fed them. Once you swallow that pill your not your own person. For the record, I choose not to be D or R because it causes you to defend what you don&#39;t embrace.<br />Each of your citations seem to be taken with narrow field of view as if you are trying extrapolate the tidbits from each that form your worldview.  Do yourself a favor and dispense with the filters that form opinions and drop the resentments. I don&#39;t deny there are Southern bigots (as well as anywhere else) but that is not the primary reason of the migration. Its the moral element.</p>
<p>Ask yourself why the Blue areas of this country are so bankrupt. Crime and corruption is many many times higher. Demographics alone should cause people to reassess developed opinions. I wish you well.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/a-plea-for-a-new-generation-of-republican-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-92373</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but you miss a lot of detail.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 1948 there was a major revolt in the ranks of Southern Democrats, with&lt;br&gt;Strom Thurmond leading the charge against Harry Truman (who issued an&lt;br&gt;executive order integrating the Armed Forces), even running for president&lt;br&gt;against him on the &quot;Dixiecratic&quot; ticket; and in the 1960s the national&lt;br&gt;Democratic Party got serious about civil rights, further angering Southerners.&lt;br&gt; Seeing an opening, Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater&lt;br&gt;announced his opposition to the civil-rights movement (albeit not for racist&lt;br&gt;reasons; nevertheless, that got the attention of many of those Southerners and&lt;br&gt;Thurmond would eventually switch his affiliation.  Feeling some momentum two&lt;br&gt;years later, Richard Nixon and aide Pat Buchanan campaigned for GOP&lt;br&gt;congressional candidates in the South, where the party became a legitimate&lt;br&gt;entity for the first time since Reconstruction; Reagan&#039;s election completed&lt;br&gt;the turnaround.  Bottom line, the Southern segregationists generally left the&lt;br&gt;Democratic Party for the Republican Party; those that stayed such as Robert&lt;br&gt;Byrd moderated their views.  In fact, Trent Lott, Phil Gramm and a number of&lt;br&gt;others actually started their political careers as Democrats.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Furthermore, the &quot;religious right&quot; got started in 1978 when the Carter&lt;br&gt;Administration sicced the IRS on private Christian schools in the South that&lt;br&gt;he suspected were founded to evade court-ordered desegregation in public&lt;br&gt;schools.  (Carter, of course being a Southerner, understood the dynamics quite&lt;br&gt;well.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For these and other reasons, the idea that &quot;conservatives&quot; were ever on the&lt;br&gt;side of African-Americans on a political basis is absolutely ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but you miss a lot of detail.</p>
<p>In 1948 there was a major revolt in the ranks of Southern Democrats, with<br />Strom Thurmond leading the charge against Harry Truman (who issued an<br />executive order integrating the Armed Forces), even running for president<br />against him on the &#8220;Dixiecratic&#8221; ticket; and in the 1960s the national<br />Democratic Party got serious about civil rights, further angering Southerners.<br /> Seeing an opening, Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater<br />announced his opposition to the civil-rights movement (albeit not for racist<br />reasons; nevertheless, that got the attention of many of those Southerners and<br />Thurmond would eventually switch his affiliation.  Feeling some momentum two<br />years later, Richard Nixon and aide Pat Buchanan campaigned for GOP<br />congressional candidates in the South, where the party became a legitimate<br />entity for the first time since Reconstruction; Reagan&#39;s election completed<br />the turnaround.  Bottom line, the Southern segregationists generally left the<br />Democratic Party for the Republican Party; those that stayed such as Robert<br />Byrd moderated their views.  In fact, Trent Lott, Phil Gramm and a number of<br />others actually started their political careers as Democrats.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the &#8220;religious right&#8221; got started in 1978 when the Carter<br />Administration sicced the IRS on private Christian schools in the South that<br />he suspected were founded to evade court-ordered desegregation in public<br />schools.  (Carter, of course being a Southerner, understood the dynamics quite<br />well.)</p>
<p>For these and other reasons, the idea that &#8220;conservatives&#8221; were ever on the<br />side of African-Americans on a political basis is absolutely ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Huntergreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huntergreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look back with an eye for detail, you will notice that the status quo of the south was Democratic. The Klan was primarily composed of that party. In fact we still have an old Byrd in the senate that was a Klansman. If you dare check out who repressed the blacks after the civil war. It was the Democrats. Sure, there have been derelicts on both sides of the aisle but history (unrevised) will show the Democratic party as no friend to the Black. By demonizing conservatism, democrats (especially so-called progressives) have instilled a resentment that has robbed the black community of moral and political objectivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look back with an eye for detail, you will notice that the status quo of the south was Democratic. The Klan was primarily composed of that party. In fact we still have an old Byrd in the senate that was a Klansman. If you dare check out who repressed the blacks after the civil war. It was the Democrats. Sure, there have been derelicts on both sides of the aisle but history (unrevised) will show the Democratic party as no friend to the Black. By demonizing conservatism, democrats (especially so-called progressives) have instilled a resentment that has robbed the black community of moral and political objectivity.</p>
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