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		<title>By: kansasmennonite</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/preseve-biblical-accuracy/comment-page-1/#comment-111840</link>
		<dc:creator>kansasmennonite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote:&quot;One can understand how unpalatable that would be to a capitalist&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Only if you believe the Bible is &quot;flat&quot; and all old testament law should be followed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Muslims think interest is forbidden so their bank system is setup to reflect that but there&#039;s ways around it.</description>
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<p>Only if you believe the Bible is &#8220;flat&#8221; and all old testament law should be followed.</p>
<p>The Muslims think interest is forbidden so their bank system is setup to reflect that but there&#39;s ways around it.</p>
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		<title>By: kansasmennonite</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/preseve-biblical-accuracy/comment-page-1/#comment-92364</link>
		<dc:creator>kansasmennonite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote:&quot;One can understand how unpalatable that would be to a capitalist&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Only if you believe the Bible is &quot;flat&quot; and all old testament law should be followed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Muslims think interest is forbidden so their bank system is setup to reflect that but there&#039;s ways around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote:&#8221;One can understand how unpalatable that would be to a capitalist&#8221;</p>
<p>Only if you believe the Bible is &#8220;flat&#8221; and all old testament law should be followed.</p>
<p>The Muslims think interest is forbidden so their bank system is setup to reflect that but there&#39;s ways around it.</p>
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		<title>By: kansasmennonite</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/preseve-biblical-accuracy/comment-page-1/#comment-92354</link>
		<dc:creator>kansasmennonite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learnt somethong abut Mennonite today! Thaks.</description>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Preserve Biblical Accuracy - Mimi Haddad - God’s Politics Blog -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Indiana Region (DOC) and Heidi Strate. Indiana Region (DOC) said: RT @Sojourners: Many of us believe the TNIV is biblically correct. http://bit.ly/3wHnHU [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Indiana Region (DOC) and Heidi Strate. Indiana Region (DOC) said: RT @Sojourners: Many of us believe the TNIV is biblically correct. <a href="http://bit.ly/3wHnHU" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3wHnHU</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TedVothJr</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/preseve-biblical-accuracy/comment-page-1/#comment-92272</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Culturally Conditioned ‘Inaccuracies’ in the NIV&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are some flagrant inaccuracies in the original NIV that are clearly culturally conditioned, and all the more damnable for that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(The translation I’m using is ‘MyV’, my modernization of the AV, or KJV, which came free with my free Bible software) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the Law of Moses, God’s Constitution for Israel, our window into God’s Heart, lending and borrowing on interest is forbidden.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Exodus 22:25 If you lend money to any of my people who is poor by you, you shall not be to him as a usurer, neither shall you lay on him interest.&lt;br&gt;Leviticus 25:36 Don&#039;t take interest from him, or increase: but fear your God; so that your brother may live with you.&lt;br&gt; 37 You shall not give him your money on interest, nor lend him your food for increase.&lt;br&gt;Deuteronomy 23:19 you shall not lend on interest to your brother; interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of any thing that is lent on interest:&lt;br&gt; 20 To a stranger you may lend on interest; but to your brother you shall not lend on interest: so that the LORD your God may bless you in all that you set your hand to in the land you go into to possess.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;One can understand how unpalatable that would be to a capitalist, Ken Lay, say, who might want to think of himself as a Christian.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the NIV translates ‘interest,’ ‘usury’ in the AV, as something like ‘excessive interest.’&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Damnable.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, in first Corinthians 7:4 Paul writes:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The wife doesn’t have authority over her own body, but the husband [does]: and likewise also the husband doesn’t have authority over his own body, but the wife [does].&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is absolute; one could understand that a feminist woman– or a retrograde man; it’s absolutely even-handed– would resent this. So the NIV translates: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The wife ALONE doesn’t have authority over her own body, but &lt;br&gt;the husband ALSO [does]: and likewise also the husband ALONE doesn’t have authority over his own body, but the wife ALSO [does].&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interestingly, I’ve run this last verse past a couple of my evangelical brothers, and they’ve said &#039;Huh?&#039; and ‘I don’t hear any difference!’ &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I’m embarrassed for them for bearing out the stereotype of evangelicals of inability to think critically.</description>
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<p>There are some flagrant inaccuracies in the original NIV that are clearly culturally conditioned, and all the more damnable for that.</p>
<p>(The translation I’m using is ‘MyV’, my modernization of the AV, or KJV, which came free with my free Bible software) </p>
<p>In the Law of Moses, God’s Constitution for Israel, our window into God’s Heart, lending and borrowing on interest is forbidden.</p>
<p>Exodus 22:25 If you lend money to any of my people who is poor by you, you shall not be to him as a usurer, neither shall you lay on him interest.<br />Leviticus 25:36 Don&#39;t take interest from him, or increase: but fear your God; so that your brother may live with you.<br /> 37 You shall not give him your money on interest, nor lend him your food for increase.<br />Deuteronomy 23:19 you shall not lend on interest to your brother; interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of any thing that is lent on interest:<br /> 20 To a stranger you may lend on interest; but to your brother you shall not lend on interest: so that the LORD your God may bless you in all that you set your hand to in the land you go into to possess.</p>
<p>One can understand how unpalatable that would be to a capitalist, Ken Lay, say, who might want to think of himself as a Christian.</p>
<p>So the NIV translates ‘interest,’ ‘usury’ in the AV, as something like ‘excessive interest.’</p>
<p>Damnable.</p>
<p>Again, in first Corinthians 7:4 Paul writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;The wife doesn’t have authority over her own body, but the husband [does]: and likewise also the husband doesn’t have authority over his own body, but the wife [does].&#8221;</p>
<p>This is absolute; one could understand that a feminist woman– or a retrograde man; it’s absolutely even-handed– would resent this. So the NIV translates: </p>
<p>&#8220;The wife ALONE doesn’t have authority over her own body, but <br />the husband ALSO [does]: and likewise also the husband ALONE doesn’t have authority over his own body, but the wife ALSO [does].&#8221;</p>
<p>Interestingly, I’ve run this last verse past a couple of my evangelical brothers, and they’ve said &#39;Huh?&#39; and ‘I don’t hear any difference!’ </p>
<p>I’m embarrassed for them for bearing out the stereotype of evangelicals of inability to think critically.</p>
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		<title>By: stevekuzma</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevekuzma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we steroetyping Mennonites?</description>
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		<title>By: carlcopas</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/preseve-biblical-accuracy/comment-page-1/#comment-92258</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFL</description>
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		<title>By: canucklehead</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/09/08/preseve-biblical-accuracy/comment-page-1/#comment-92234</link>
		<dc:creator>canucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say we put the purists from both sides into a darkened room, distribute hardback copies of the KJV and let them smite each other senseless until the last man (=person) standing is declared the winner. Recent archaeological evidence suggests this is how theological disputes were settled in the early Mennonite era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say we put the purists from both sides into a darkened room, distribute hardback copies of the KJV and let them smite each other senseless until the last man (=person) standing is declared the winner. Recent archaeological evidence suggests this is how theological disputes were settled in the early Mennonite era.</p>
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		<title>By: kennyjohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>kennyjohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant they plan to have a single NIV.</description>
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		<title>By: kennyjohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>kennyjohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve been following Scot Mcknight&#039;s discussion on this at his Jesus Creed blog, but it sounds more like the TNIV is going to become the new NIV. So yes, they are phasing out the TNIV, because they are going to have a single TNIV. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The question is... will it retain some/all of its gender inclusive language? I suspect it will retain at least some of it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2009/09/translation-tribalism.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2009/09/tr...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2009/09/translation-tribalism-2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2009/09/tr...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t know if you&#39;ve been following Scot Mcknight&#39;s discussion on this at his Jesus Creed blog, but it sounds more like the TNIV is going to become the new NIV. So yes, they are phasing out the TNIV, because they are going to have a single TNIV. </p>
<p>The question is&#8230; will it retain some/all of its gender inclusive language? I suspect it will retain at least some of it. </p>
<p>See:<br /><a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2009/09/translation-tribalism.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2009/09/tr.." rel="nofollow">http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2009/09/tr..</a>.<br /><a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2009/09/translation-tribalism-2.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2009/09/tr.." rel="nofollow">http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2009/09/tr..</a>.</p>
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