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We’ve Crashed Our Cars into the Living Room of the World’s Poor

by Peter Illyn 09-28-2009

Proverbs 31:8 says “Speak out for those who cannot speak [for themselves].”

President Obama gave a speech last week to the UN General Assembly in which he did just that. He began his talk on climate change in stark and realistic terms, leaving aside for the moment the upbeat language about green jobs in a new clean energy economy. Here’s what he said, in part:

No nation, however large or small, wealthy or poor, can escape the impact of climate change.  Rising sea levels threaten every coastline.  More powerful storms and floods threaten every continent.  More frequent drought and crop failures breed hunger and conflict in places where hunger and conflict already thrive.  On shrinking islands, families are already being forced to flee their homes as climate refugees.  The security and stability of each nation and all peoples — our prosperity, our health, our safety — are in jeopardy.  And the time we have to reverse this tide is running out.

That’s different rhetoric than you hear in many of the communications of the environmental community. It’s true that there are many opportunities in clean energy for smart investments that will make America safer and more prosperous. But as people of faith, we must remind ourselves and the rest of the country that the hard work of getting to that new economy is answering the call to justice. In the next few years it is more important than ever that we “speak out for those who cannot speak for themselves.”

We’ve crashed our cars into the living room of the world’s poor — there’s no denying who bears the historical responsibility for the current climate crisis. We’ve got to do the bigger part of mitigating that damage and helping poor nations adapt to climate change already in the pipeline.

In our work with students on Christian college campuses, and with missional and emerging churches, we see a new willingness to be faithful witnesses to the need for just power. In our work with people affected by mountaintop removal mining in Appalachia, we see ordinary citizens doing extraordinary things to confront the power of the coal industry. In our relationships with Christian brothers and sisters overseas, we see Christians pleading for the American church to get its head out of the sand, and to show spiritual leadership on the world stage.

As people of faith become ever more informed about the social, economic, and environmental costs that dirty power systems deliver to the poor and vulnerable, we become ever more convinced that there is a moral cost to our carbon pollution that we bear in our own souls. We ignore the evidence about the impacts of global warming at our own peril, not just physically but spiritually.

We can speak the moral language that dares call it a sin, but that same language includes words like revival, renewal, and restoration. We can imagine a community of right relationships, with God, with our global neighbors, and with the Creation. We see it when the faithful “speak out for those who cannot speak for themselves.” We see glimpses of that coming kingdom, breaking through even now where faithfulness and hope prevail over recklessness and despair. That’s part of our message to the world as well.

Rev. Peter Illyn heads the non-profit organization Restoring Eden, which aims to make hearts bigger, hands dirtier, and voices stronger for God’s creation.

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  • Ashleigh101
    NC77,

    Below are some really, really interesting comments- kinda along the lines of your conspiracy theory. I had not thought of it before, but it makes a lot of sense. This was posted in a forum at Hannity's website (I came across it in a google search).--------------------

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1652391

    "Why would the federal government care about a 2 inch smelt? They don't. I have no link. I can only tell you what one single farmer in the region shared directly with my family about three months ago.

    Some of the people in the area believe the government is intentionally drying up the region and making it a wasteland so that they can complete their high-speed rail system.

    Here is the proposal. Look at where the train runs. http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/

    Seems like a legitimate assessment of what is really going on. Sean's story was accurate. Families that have farmed there for 100 years going back have been forced to leave.

    After our conversation with the farmer, I looked up the pictures of the signs he mentioned, and they existed. http://www.highwayhags.com/2009/06/01/dust-bowl...

    Also, right around the same time we spoke with the farmer, Arnold Schwartzenneger met with the farmers in the central valley. The crowd was hostile, and it was a disastrous visit for the Governor. I don't think the truth is getting out there. Not that I would expect it to. There are a lot self-serving interests being sought in this one."


    ------I am more furious now than I was before. It will be an utter TRAVESTY if the farmland here is allowed to completely go to waste! You know what our govt. will do? Import! The crops that could've and would've been raised here will instead be imported from other nations. That will mean higher prices as well as less regulation. Pretty hard to regulate things like salmonella outbreaks when the food comes from a foreign nation.

    This high speed rail is utterly ridiculous also, IMO. Well, the timing at least is. We are in this HUGE reccession, and CA's unemployment rate is 12.9% (and rising) I believe. Yet, we actually (stupidly) voted to spend millions on this high speed rail that will connect N. CA to S. CA.

    I now feel much more sad and angry than I did before. There is a lot our own media holds back on this. Now, that smelt BBQ story I posted doesn't seem so funny now.

    You know, this also all, ironically, happened after Obama was elected. And he's not addressed it at all, despite those who have contacted him and pleaded with him to do so. I wonder if it would be different with Bush. I have a feeling we wouldn't be having this conversation if Bush were President. Not that he was a perfect President, but now the Democrats (Boxer, Feinstein, et al.) are almost unstoppable in getting what they want since they control the fed. govt.
  • Ashleigh101
    Here's a funny story you might get a kick out of. I couldn't help but laugh when I read it!
    http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/...

    "Delta Smelt BBQ."

    Fresno, CA (KFSN) -- A Republican State Assembly Candidate is fishing for donations by feeding smelt to potential donors.

    Supporters of Brandon Shoemaker hosted a delta smelt barbecue in Visalia. They served up a variety of the fish that isn't endangered, although the little fish didn't function as more than an appetizer.

    Shoemaker said the food highlights the plight of valley farmers who are losing out on a water source in favor of the fish.

    Brandon shoemaker, (R) CA Assembly Candidate said: "Fish are food. They're not our friends. Fish don't vote. The water is this valley's livelihood. It's ridiculous to see what these people are going through all over this little fish. "

    A day before this fundraiser, a Federal Judge delayed a decision on whether to overrule restrictions on pumping in the San Joaquin Delta.

    The restrictions protect the endangered variety of the fish, which are the main source of food for a lot of bigger fish.
  • Ashleigh101
    “Federal regulators are turning a recession into a depression for many agricultural communities, by embracing an extremist agenda that puts fish before the well-being of millions of people. Big government’s policy of starving farms and communities of water is not just immoral – it is flat-out unconstitutional.” -- Damien Schiff (attorney)
  • Ashleigh101
    Well, for me, it does not actually directly affect me, other than perhaps when food prices go up. But it affects the people in my community. It also saddens me to see the wasted farm land. It does affect all of us either directly or indirectly.

    I am not sure what all Arnold is doing, although I know that he is angry about it. But I think he is mostly talk and not a lot of action. But I am not sure how much he can do since it is the federal govt. (the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service under the federal Endangered Species Act) who has cut the water.

    Your "unfounded conspiracy theory" is interesting. There could indeed be some truth to that, which just angers me greatly!! It is very, very sad, too, to hear some of these famers talk about how they might lose farms that have been in their families for many generations. That is how it is with the majority of farmers here.
  • Ashleigh101
    I think Hannity being here lifted some people's spirits. I didn't go to the rally that he attended and missed the news coverage of it, but it seems like a lot of this is still being ignored, despite his story on it. I have not heard much lately. Nothing has changed.

    I didn't hear that quote by Feinstein but it doesn't surprise me. She does not, and has never, represented or listened to the conservative voices here, or those who are poor. It is very frustrating to be conservative in CA. Even though there are lots of conservatives, esp. in the valley, our voices are rarely heard or considered.

    How utterly disgusting of her to compare the farmers to the enemy and to compare the whole thing to Pearl Harbor, an act of war!? Good grief!! I do not at all understand the mentality of such a statement.

    These farmers are simply fighting for their livelihood. And for their worker's livelihoods also, as they are having to lay off their workers.

    And I would not be at all surprised to see that food prices go up. It's ridiculous, too. All this farm land we have here going to waste. The govt. has the power to help, but they aren't.

    Here's a good, although somewhat brief, article from Time magazine on the crisis if you're interested: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1...
  • NC77
    I can't imagine what it is like to live there right now. I would think Arnold would be doing something about it because that is a big chunk of lost income that is not providing tax revenue for the state. Plus all the other businesses that support farming, equipment, fertilizer, fuel, transporters and shippers, etc., have to be feeling it also.

    I don't mean to start an unfounded conspiracy theory, but I wonder if in another year or two, the fedreral government steps up to buy that barren land at bargain basement prices and then things change and the water flows. And all through the process spinning itself as the compassionate savior of the farmers. Just a thought.
  • NC77
    One good thing about Hannity is that he will draw a large audience. I heard part of that special show he had out there. I had the TV on and was falling in and out of sleep at the time.

    I don't know what I can do except pray for them and vote.

    I was shocked with Sen. Feinstein comparing the situation to Pearl Harbor. That is, the Dept. of Interior being Pearl Harbor and the farmers being the enemy. At least that is how I understood what she said. Of course, it was a sound bite so there may have been some other context that better explains what she meant by that.
  • Ashleigh101
    "Did you catch what Senator Feinstein said about it? I think her comments are telling about how far our federal government has strayed from what the founding fathers had in mind for the legislative body. Today it is all about the people in government gaining and maintaining power and ruling over the people, not serving the people. It is all about the self interests of politicians. She is their (Central Valley people) senator and will not do a thing to help them. Very sad state of affairs there in my opinion."


    Very true. In fact, if it weren't for Hannity, as well as a few other more vocal and "powerful" voices (Alan Autry, former Fresno mayor, and Paul Rodriguez, an actor/comedian whose family owns land in the valley), it might've received no national attention. What's really sad is that one of the more powerful voices trying to help the people here is Jim deMint, who is from South Carolina... not CA!!!

    DeMint recently proposed an amendment to help water return to the Valley, and both Boxer and Feinstein voted against it. But then, I have never felt represented by these two women. I can still remember years ago when they were elected and the sadness I felt.

    The Valley has often been an overlooked part of the state. For one, it's highly Republican/conservative. For another, it's poorer in many areas that places like San Francisco. San Francisco's interests receive far more attention than the Valley's. Even though the Valley is much larger and produces all these crops.

    So, yes, it is a very sad state of affairs. Very sad.
  • Ashleigh101
    You're right about Hannity not reporting until he is sure the story is valid. He did not come to the valley and report on it until the story was almost "old news." And it was "big" for us because the Valley's problems rarerly generate any national news.

    But I can tell you that the farmers and the laid-off farm workers (the migrant field workers) were thrilled that he brought some national attention to this because they feel ignored. They feel powerless. They feel as if govt. is simply walking all over them by showing preference to the more powerful enviromentalists.

    I live here and see the local news and see these poor migrant field workers standing in food lines and sharing their sorrow, concern, and fears at losing their jobs due to the lack of water, something caused by drought and then worsened and perpetuated by the smelt protection. They are being treated just as govt. says they ought not to... as poor people, and immigrants, with no voice whose needs are being trumped by special interest groups (environmentalists).

    I also see the images of all the farmland laid to waste... barren, dry, no water. There are farmers here who've run their farms for generations. They have survived both this current drought and droughts past (CA has always struggled with drought), but now with the smelt protection, they cannot survive. And it is very tragic to see these farms that have lasted generations to close and to hear about how the farmers are having to lay off the workers.
  • NC77
    Kansas

    Fair enough. I agree all parties have dirty hands when it comes to politics and the government. Like it says in the bible, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

    Lately God has been showing me things and directing me in ways I never fully grasped in my younger Christian days. It is available to all. Read James 1:5. "If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him." That was from the NIV.

    All wisdom and knowledge reside in Christ and have been made available to us now that he dwells in us through the Holy Spirit. If we want to see the righteousness of God and social justice established in this country and all the earth we must earnestly seek him to know that which is true and of God. If we do not, we might be found building a lie based on a vain attempt to establish our our own righteousness; not on the righteousness that comes through faith by grace.

    Gotta go. Seek wisdom from God. He loves communicating with us and have us take action on the things he reveals to us.
  • Ashleigh101
    Once again... not sure to laugh, cry, or just roll my eyes. From the first paragraph to the last... there simply are no words.

    Oh, but thanks so much for enlightening me on my "Christian porn" habit! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
  • kansasmennonite
    Quote:"But right now, we're talking SMELT. Look, we've seen where Obama's "multitasking"gets him. He's here, he's there, he's everywhere. Read the news on the Chicago bid?"

    I'm done talking smelt. You're the one who brought it up.

    Did you hear AFR's radio Today's Issues?
    The broadcasters fornicated over themselves when discussing the Chicago loosing the bid story (because of Obama) and I see you're doing the same thing. Personally I wanted a country other than the US to get it-not because Obama was or wasn't involved. You didn't want Chicago getting it because he's from that corrupt city-right?

    Christian porn-yea babe-that's right!
    Hate filled talk radio and porn is designed to stir certain feelings in the body (or mind).

    Oh, and about the demographics. Smelt is the least of your problems (in the valley) like I'd been saying all along!!!
  • kansasmennonite
    I have only seen Olbermann and Maddow on the net before the election. I just don't see the "hate" from the left as from the right. Like I've said in other posts. I can only get the extreme right on the radio. Mark Levin is the most hateful one I believe. I turned him on yesterday for a couple of minutes and he had every cuss name in the book for people that didn't agree with him. He's really one guy I can't handle. Tells us how patriotic he is and then how evil everyone else is (except his audience).

    As for believing the scientists, I believe we tend to believe the people we feel most comfortable with. When you said you don't believe in global warming because of being a conservative I took that as a statement that most conservatives believe (and the religious right). We'll see how the next 10 yrs look like and we'll know more. Should we be spending money on reducing co2 levels? I don't know. I'm not going to let politics decide for me. They'll do (the govt) what they do. I'm going to do some more generaliznig here. In the past, the conservatives have ignored and tried to bury some things that they shouldn't have. The liberals perhaps the same. I'm not a republican or democrat or libertarian.
  • Ashleigh101
    You're a shrewd one, aren't you, Kansas? Googling and getting the "real" story... from a blog nonetheless! From an environmentalist's blog nonethelss! LOL. Come on, Kansas, you know better than that.

    As far as talk radio being "christian porn," good grief!! I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or just roll my eyes at that statement!! That's quite an... uh... oh forget it... there simply are no words for what that is!

    p.s. Now how 'bout you address my comments about the demographics of the Valley, esp. since those are the poor that you claim to be fighting for.
  • NC77
    Gotcha. I don't know enough about the Central Valley issue to discuss all the behind the scenes going ons and politics. As for Hannity, I believe he waits for others to break stories and then he takes up the issue to make himself appear on the cutting edge. He wants to make sure it is a valid story, then jumps on the bandwagon. If you watch him on a regular basis and are up-to-the-minute on breaking news you will see the pattern. I also think he cops an attitude to try to validate his beliefs. But that is just me and my perceptions.

    I hope this is not offensive, but I view him as the Fox version of Olbermann and Maddow on MSNBC. I have found Lou Dobbs on CNN tends to be balanced and offers opposing views to be heard without casting vitriol.

    I have a question for you. How would one determine which scientist we should take the word of? The ones who claim global warming is real or the ones who deny it. It seems to me the discussion gets swept under the rug before anyone who denies global warming can present their argument. What do you think?
  • kansasmennonite
    Thanks for the kind response. I don't have any links on the global warming issue. Like I said, I don't like people to just "bury" it without further analysis. At some point we have to take the scientists words. (they can talk in such technical terms I wouldn't begin to understand). I do know there are scientists with different views. I see the politicizing of the issue and that's what bothers me.

    As far as the smelt is concerned, I've had numerous posts with Ashliegh and she makes it sound like the smelt is the whole problem in the valley but we know that's not the case. The little bit of data I saw, the smelt concern reduced water by 1/4 at some locals. The drought was the remaining reduction in water allotments. I don't want blanket statements about the smelt. I don't have access to FOX tv but do know the talk show hosts on radio a bit. It was nothing but a plot by hannity to drum up some "hatred" toward people with different views than a realistic scenario.

    If the republicans want to garner my suppport again there's going to have to be a leader who can "rope" in these renegade radio and tv hate mongers. (kinda like McCain did in a rally where he said to the poor old lady that-No mam, Obama's not a terrorist-or something like that).
  • NC77
    Well said and you are right along with Ashleigh 101. I happen to be a post tribber because I believe dispensationalism is a heresy. But ultimately it is a moot point because we should live as if Jeses were returning today. He will come like a thief in the night.

    It will be so exciting to see the new earth and Jesus finally with his bride. WooHoo.

    What I have to wonder is what those who do not believe in the second coming will blame for the tribulation. If they think global warming is bad, they ain't seen nothing yet :)
  • NC77
    Thanks Kansasmennonite,

    As a conservative (more of a libertarian though) I think global warming does not exist because I have not seen any valid scientific study proving that it is caused by CO2. In fact, CO2 is a vital compound for the existence of life on earth. As ceated by God, our lungs expel it, plants absorb it to maintain life and produce oxygen in the process, which we need to breathe in to maintain life.

    I welcome an opportunity to review any write-ups you may have on scientific experiments (that can be verified) by whomever if they can accurately simulate the open chaotic earth climate environment in a closed lab experiment and show CO2 to be the problem with trapping too much heat and causing global temperatures to rise. My apologies for the run on sentence.

    I think a truly objective study cannot be done because there are thousands of variables in flux at all times, some knowable and predictable, some unknowable and unpredictable that affect the outcome of the model or the experiment. In other words, the results are largely affected by how the input is skewed and biased. The so called “science” can be made to prove it is cooling or it can be made to prove it is heating. Most scientific studies I have seen that I think are valid (and I don't expect everyone to agree with me) show that water vapor traps heat, not CO2.

    If you want pure empirical evidence, the reports that global temperatures have fallen since 2000 are interesting. It appears a cooling trend is now beginning and putting a damper on the global warming parade, but we will see as time goes on. For me (as an engineer) it is all about the science itself, rather than political or popular opinion. I think it is novel that those who do not believe in global warming are considered to be on the "kook" side of the debate. We are the deniers. Yet history has shown that it is usually the kooks that make the significant scientific discoveries.


    So, I do not believe my conservative or libertarian values affect my objective scientific observances. Sorry if it came across that way. I also did not mean to imply liberals do not recycle, most that I know do so with a passion. My point was that I see people (both liberal and conservative) whose lives don't reflect the mantras they proclaim. Again, I did not mean to imply liberals do not care about the environment because some don’t walk the walk. But it is also unfair to group all conservatives with an “environment hating destroy the earth” type of profile. Most conservative I know are also avid recyclers and conserve resources. So it is not wise to lump all people with an opposing political persuasion into wrongly construed stereotypical ideals and values.

    The first I heard about the Central Valley problem was on CNN I believe. I also heard about the Sean Hannity segment you mentioned. I don't watch Hannity for news because he does not have a news show. The news on Fox runs from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. in the evenings. I believe Brett Baier and Sheppard Smith anchor the news shows. After that it is all news analysis or opinion shows on Fox.

    For the news, I check out various news venues and compare. I bounce around CNN, MSNBC, Fox, CNBC, Fox Business News, local, and many both left and right sources on the web. I want to hear all sides.

    Concerning the situation in the Central Valley of California, I would think in this day and age we could figure out a way to protect the smelt and provide the water to the farmers that need it for there livelihood. Why does it have to be one or the other? Did you catch what Senator Feinstein said about it? I think her comments are telling about how far our federal government has strayed from what the founding fathers had in mind for the legislative body. Today it is all about the people in government gaining and maintaining power and ruling over the people, not serving the people. It is all about the self interests of politicians. She is their (Central Valley people) senator and will not do a thing to help them. Very sad state of affairs there in my opinion.

    Thanks for responding and giving me an opportunity to clarify what I said. I tried to reply in humility and contrition. Hopefully it came off that way. Let's discuss more if you want to. If you feel up to it, I would like to review any data you have that you believe scientifically and objectively proves global warming. I am always open to other perspectives provided those perspectives are not censorship and vitriol over an opposing position. Best regards.
  • kansasmennonite
    The first headline that popped up in my search yielded this: http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/dobegi/red_he...
    It seems like drought may be the real culprit here? Funny you never mentioned that!!!

    Look, my main point is that there are other needs out in the valley that need to be addressed and you tried to blame it on liberals (really needed to say extreme enviromentlists). That right wing hate radio isn't doing you or anyone any good. There was a comment from a democrat congressman about the fairness act and he mentioned that talk radio was like porn and the right scoffed at that. I'll go one further and say it's christian porn. My wife and I were going somewhere in the car and I turned on talk radio and she said to turn it off and I told her that it isn't that easy-you see it's christian porn. Very hard to turn off the hate and half truths that fill our mind. How else could we hate other people without feeling guilty?
  • Ashleigh101
    Oh, Kansas, you obviously are not well-informed on this issue. Hannity came here MONTHS after this happened. By the time he got here, it was pretty old news. He just happened to shed a national spotlight on it.

    I've said it once and I'll say it again. The poor are getting poorer because of the smelt protection. The land is going to waste because of the smelt protection. And someday, it's very likely that YOUR food costs will rise... because of the smelt protection.

    Heck yes the problems here existed before the smelt! Who is even denying that? The fact is... they are now much WORSE... far, far worse. Those who once had low-paying jobs working in the fields now have NO jobs period.

    Why does it seem so difficult for you to understand this?

    Oh, and please tell, since you seem like such an expert on this... what exactly are the problems of the valley, Kansas? Would love to hear you name and describe them and also discuss what has and/or has not been done to address them.

    Oh, and while you're at it, maybe you can talk about how much you "love" the poor and immigrants (which you've berated me for not loving) and how you feel about how they are losing jobs right now because of the environmental laws protecting the smelt? Come on, now, don't be shy. You made it clear how much you "care" about their health needs. So how about their income needs? What'd ya think Kansas? Share.
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