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God's Politics

Listening to Poor People ‘Offstage’

by Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove 10-05-2009

I have a neighbor who has a little maxim he uses to explain much of what he sees on the news or reads about in the local paper. “Rich folks are stupid,” he says to me when a millionaire files for bankruptcy or a politician gets caught embezzling money. That pretty much explains things for my neighbor. He usually doesn’t say much more. If power corrupts, he figures, then money makes people stupid.

Of course, he doesn’t talk that way to rich folks. He’s good at knowing when to smile and when to compliment someone in power. He has made his living in service jobs. But working at restaurants and fancy hotels has only given him more evidence for his main conviction about money. Rich people are stupid because they can’t begin to make a dollar go as far as his single mother could, who raised five kids doing domestic work. What’s more, rich folks think a waiter is their friend when he says, “Yes, Sir” and “Sure is a nice day, ain’t it?”

Anthropologist James C. Scott says that there’s a difference between the way poor people talk “onstage” and “offstage.” Studying forms of everyday resistance among peasants in a small Malaysian village, he noticed how the poor and weak were good at acting like they recognized the authority of the ruling elite in public. “Onstage” they almost always gave the impression of complying with a social order in which they suffered injustice. “Offstage,” however, when no one in authority was around, peasants mocked the system through gossip, slander, stealing, dragging their feet, and sabotaging their masters’ plans.

“It is my guess,” Scott writes, “that just such kinds of resistance are often the most significant and the most effective over the long run … Everyday forms of resistance make no headlines. But just as millions of anthozoan polyps create, willy-nilly, a coral reef, so do the multiple acts of peasant insubordination and evasion create political and economic barrier reefs of their own.” The wisdom of the weak is that quiet tactics have a bigger impact in the long term, especially when the goal is to carve out space for a new economy within the shell of the old.

When Jesus taught Palestinian peasants who were living under occupation in first-century Palestine, he taught tactics for living God’s economy when you can’t drive the Romans out. That’s why he praises the “dishonest manager” in Luke 16 and teaches us the tactic of economic friendship — “use money to make friends” (Luke 16:9). Jesus doesn’t hold this manager up as an example of business ethics. He says, instead, that given what this manager knows, he’s a sharp tack. Within the competitive economy of this world, he uses the wisdom of the weak to win with a poor hand. Engaging in a series of subversive acts offstage, he wins the friendship of the only people who can save his skin onstage. And, sure enough, his scheme works.

A few years ago a friend of mine who works for a Christian NGO was part of an international consultation on how the church could address extreme poverty. This fellow has lived much of his adult life in the slums of mega-cities and knows well the sort of tactical imagination that keeps people alive in those places. As his colleagues in this consultation discussed the best strategy for western Christians to address poverty, my friend made a suggestion. “Wouldn’t it help,” he asked, “if we invited some poor people to come and think with us about how to help them?” There was silence in the room, and then one of the more experienced relief and development workers spoke. “I’m afraid that would just slow us down.”

In our rush to solve problems that are indeed urgent, we often overlook the wisdom of the weak, assuming that the losers in this world’s system don’t have much to offer. But Jesus insists the opposite is true: if we pay attention to the weak, we can learn the tactics of everyday resistance that are ultimately effective. If we’re willing to slow down and listen, the poor can often lead us into God’s economy.

My friends at Jesus People USA in Chicago have seen this with the issue of food security. Feeding the hungry is a concern that lots of people share, and there are all kinds of efforts to make this happen. I remember bringing cans of food to school as a kid, competing with my fellow classmates to see who could grab the most from our parents’ cupboards for the annual Thanksgiving food drive. Nonprofit organizations invest big money in fundraising campaigns for food ministries, and advocates and lobbyists try to convince corporations and governments that it’s in their best interest to meet people’s basic food needs.

No doubt, all of this helps. But every homeless person knows that an ungodly amount of food gets thrown away in the United States every day. Hanging out with homeless friends, folks at Jesus People USA learned “dumpster-diving” — the practice of redeeming discarded food from the trash bins behind grocery stores and restaurants before it’s hauled off to the landfill. Making the rounds with homeless friends who knew the dumping patterns well, they saw that there was more than enough food there to feed everyone in the homeless ministries they sponsored. So they went to the businesses in town with a proposal that it would have been embarrassing to refuse: donate your trash, and we’ll feed the hungry in our city. They’ve been doing it now for years.

When we decide that the weak are not only objects of our charity but also subjects who teach us needed wisdom, it makes new relationships possible. After all, people sense when the time you spend with them is a chore. They might smile and say thank you “onstage,” but you can be sure that the poor will cuss a patronizing church like a sailor as soon as the members are out of earshot. When we enjoy the time we spend with others, and honestly value their wisdom, we don’t only gain new knowledge. We gain something far more valuable: a friendship that wasn’t possible before.

portrait-jonathan-wilson-hartgroveJonathan Wilson-Hartgrove is author of God’s Economy: Redefining the Health and Wealth Gospel.

Categories: Economics, Poverty
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  • letjusticerolldown
    I think we do tend to create all kinds of social divisions that keep us from embracing the dignity in each other.

    The Bible does do some dividing as well. One that comes to mind is represented well in Proverbs: The wise person versus the fool.

    I'd like to think the world is filled with mostly wise persons that occasionally encounter a fool.

    I have a hunch. There are many rich fools. There are many poor fools. There are few wise persons defined by their riches or poverty; or limited in their in their capacity to relate to the other; to give of their wisdom and receive from the other's.
  • Lord_Voldemort
    The question is, will Mr. Wilson-Hartgrove consider the possibility that this applies to him and his movement, when they are in power? Is it possible that the poor you claim to protect will tend to act grateful in public, while in private they undermine your vision?

    Stupidity is not exclusive to the wealthy, it's a common trait of humanity, applying in different ways and times to powerful and powerless, wealthy and poor, conservative and progressive.

    LV
  • letjusticerolldown
    Is there any evidence in the spirit of his post that he is not applying it to himself???

    What is the movement you consider him to represent? He may be particularly focused on those who now are in power. He doesn't say. Actually, come to think of it--his words and argument seem to be quite gracious--and calling us to give dignity to voices who would often be overrun. Neither, pointing the finger at anyone nor leaving anyone out.

    Is there any reason not to extend such grace back??
  • SantaLucia
    Many practitioners and scholars involved in international development and addressing poverty have for many years now argued that the poor are the experts about their own local situations. Even the World Bank's Voices of the Poor project recognized the poor as the poverty experts. Thank you for your thoughtful post Blessings
  • SisterMarie
    Financial irresponsibility (a nice way of saying stupid) has no barriers. Ever so often, we read of someone with little means who has won the lottery. It's not unusual to hear months later that they have managed to spend it all and that they are now in worse financial condition than when they started. I'm also aware that there are many people who are living on the edge with barely enough food to eat who would not think of giving up cable TV.

    Like it or not, we have developed a culture in which a person's worth is measured by what they consume.
  • nanaverm
    It's funny that the author should mention dumpster diving, because I helped a poor friend yesterday by diving for food at a closeout store. I picked the things out with a tool, and she loaded them into 6 boxes. Enough breakfast cereal/bars for her for months, and gifts for my friends living on the tight side. This is worth doing weekly!

    I am sending an e-mail to the chain's management suggesting that they reduce their trash disposal costs by recycling cardboard and giving food products through local food banks for redistribution. If they can't be shamed into giving food away (as per the article), I figure the reduction of disposal costs may be a motivating factor.

    In our town, the Food Bank can't give away past-pull-date perishables from stores, so they are given to a church that redistributes them according to a rotating list. This limits the Food Bank's liability.
  • Ngchen
    I must object to the implied notion that it's somehow OK for the poor to mock "the system through gossip, slander, stealing, dragging their feet, and sabotaging their masters’ plans."

    First, unless we are dealing with actual slavery, there is no master. Second, when is it EVER OK to steal, gossip, slander, drag one's feet, and sabotage? Just b/c one's poor, and another's wealthy, does not give one license to do these things.

    Now, can economic reforms be pushed, and can reforms make things better? Most certainly. Do the poor often know what they need more than others? Of course. But destructive behaviors like those listed just make everyone poorer.
  • letjusticerolldown
    "Of course. But destructive behaviors like those listed just make everyone poorer."

    Which is true. As did the rulers of Wall Street who collapsed the global economic system. As did the racists of Alabama who buried our state in a history of poverty, division and war.

    I struggle with the behaviors highlighted--that you quote. But I think the fundamental point is that persons understand their involvement in oppressive and exploitive structures. It is not simply their "slow down" that renders the damage (making all poorer) but rather the larger exploitation that is going on. So he is highlighting, in a sense, just as persons will go to war (sacrificing their well being if they believe there to be a higher cause); poor persons too will find ways to lessen the "props" that hold up oppression.
  • BluegrassOhio
    The middle class and above tell me that the poor are unfortunate but they absolutely made choices along the way which kept them from gaining in economic terms. Sure, there is the occasional senior citizen or disabled person who was dealt a bad deck of cards but most of the poor will remain that way because they made and continue to make bad choices in life. It might be education, spending excessively, not saving, lack of concerted effort, living for today's pleasure, no planning, etc. My wife is a public school teacher & she laments the parent with the designer jacket, fancy nails, & latest cell phone, who won't turn in the form to find out the family emergency phone numbers but turns in the form immediately for free/reduced price lunches.

    So, the middle class and above don't want to be punished (taken from) because they made the right choices, sacrificed, planned, etc. How do we deal with those concerns they have about giving up their earnings for those who those in the village who won't pull their own weight so to speak?
  • letjusticerolldown
    "How do we deal with those concerns they have about giving up their earnings for those who those in the village who won't pull their own weight so to speak?"

    Maybe by doing exactly what Johathan suggests--being in relationship and listening. Or do you think that is punishing the middle and upper class?
  • natebacon
    Hey Jonathan, wonderful article. My experience of 23 years ministering on the margins confirms the great wisdom among the poor and marginalized that too often gets missed by both Church and social service agency. But your closing lines on friendship are, for me, the most significant. It is in genuine relationship (not patronizing distance) that mutual transformation takes place of the kind which can change the world. Pentecost breaks down the dividing wall of hostility, and infuses in us the enduring Flame of Love.
  • ranfran
    The main point of the story is to listen to those in need, to best help them. There is a solid sales technique and that is to first listen to a customer, and then sell him what he/she wants. Same principle.

    There was a very interesting story on the NPR program "Hidden Kitchens" a couple of years ago. I believe it was called the "George Foreman Grill." The point of the story was how working folks at the lower end of the pay scales, living in single room apartments where cooking was not allowed cooked anyway. Crookpots under the bed, toaster ovens hidden in dresser drawers and of course Gerorge's Grill.

    If you think poor people are poor because they are stupid or can not pull themselves up by the old boot straps read Kevin Phillips book "Politics of The Rich and Poor." Look at how since the late 50s the rich's politicians have loaded the tax tables in favor of the rich. And it has continued to get worse, and that is why the poor mock "the system through gossip, slander, stealing, dragging their feet, and sabotaging their masters’ plans."
  • Bungarra
    For those above who are critical of the preformace of the poor should spend a few days in any slum in any big city. Calcutta would be a good start. See my wife to get a good tour guide of the backside of the docks.

    The poor work very hard to survive.

    Yes there are unwise choices at both both at the individual and communal levels which reduces one to poverty. Yet to blame the victims is some what of an over simplification justifying ones privilege.

    Even simple issues such as opening bank accounts with minimal funds so that cheques can be cashed with out using the rapacious money changers would be a start.

    We under estimate the penalties imposed by buerocratic barriers to doing business imposed by non caring enterprises including governments.

    Any under class mock those who they perceive as having the advantage of having been born into the right house. It’s one way of maintaining any self respect / and reducing depression. This attitude is also highly developed in colonial situations.

    Why should they not, they feel that the social contract is not fair.
  • swanyriver
    I just want to call your attention to a very concrete example of what you are talking about happening right now in Honduras. Most people in the US get there news about Honduras from US based groups working in that country instead of listening to the Honduran people themselves. Admittedly, this is difficult for those who don't speak Spanish, but for those who do tune in to radio progreso from the city of El Progreso which is a voice of the people. (http://radioprogresohn.com/) An Evangelical pastor just called in to state his support for the demonstration planned for tomorrow night in a central park called "Breaking the silence." He talked about meeting a Catholic priest with whom he had gone to primary school many years ago and he talked about him now as a fellow "servant of the Lord." This is "grassroots ecumenism" at its best.
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