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	<title>Comments on: Nobel, Obama, Bono, and &#8216;Rebranding America&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-110533</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;One big reason why I think this is the way that he, or maybe I should just say democrats in congress, has opposed putting up the health care bills online for people to read after he campaign on a promise to be more transparent.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, I understand this.  As I mentioned before, the conservative movement raised a stink in 1994 when Bill Clinton first made a health care insurance reform program for no other reason than it would cause political problems for the Republican Party, and no doubt would be the case today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>One big reason why I think this is the way that he, or maybe I should just say democrats in congress, has opposed putting up the health care bills online for people to read after he campaign on a promise to be more transparent.</i></p>
<p>However, I understand this.  As I mentioned before, the conservative movement raised a stink in 1994 when Bill Clinton first made a health care insurance reform program for no other reason than it would cause political problems for the Republican Party, and no doubt would be the case today.</p>
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		<title>By: cubfan19</title>
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		<dc:creator>cubfan19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I greatly disagree that Obama is a consensus-builder by nature.  I understand all the politics surrounding health care and Afghanistan, but I think it is a stretch to say he has even tried to reach consensus.  One big reason why I think this is the way that he, or maybe I should just say democrats in congress, has opposed putting up the health care bills online for people to read after he campaign on a promise to be more transparent.  If it is the best thing for America then it should win on its merits and not need to be hidden or hurried through.  And he did try to push health care through back in July when he mandated to Congress that they need to pass health care reform before their recess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I greatly disagree that Obama is a consensus-builder by nature.  I understand all the politics surrounding health care and Afghanistan, but I think it is a stretch to say he has even tried to reach consensus.  One big reason why I think this is the way that he, or maybe I should just say democrats in congress, has opposed putting up the health care bills online for people to read after he campaign on a promise to be more transparent.  If it is the best thing for America then it should win on its merits and not need to be hidden or hurried through.  And he did try to push health care through back in July when he mandated to Congress that they need to pass health care reform before their recess.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-107428</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;One big reason why I think this is the way that he, or maybe I should just say democrats in congress, has opposed putting up the health care bills online for people to read after he campaign on a promise to be more transparent.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, I understand this.  As I mentioned before, the conservative movement raised a stink in 1994 when Bill Clinton first made a health care insurance reform program for no other reason than it would cause political problems for the Republican Party, and no doubt would be the case today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>One big reason why I think this is the way that he, or maybe I should just say democrats in congress, has opposed putting up the health care bills online for people to read after he campaign on a promise to be more transparent.</i></p>
<p>However, I understand this.  As I mentioned before, the conservative movement raised a stink in 1994 when Bill Clinton first made a health care insurance reform program for no other reason than it would cause political problems for the Republican Party, and no doubt would be the case today.</p>
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		<title>By: cubfan19</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-96271</link>
		<dc:creator>cubfan19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I greatly disagree that Obama is a consensus-builder by nature.  I understand all the politics surrounding health care and Afghanistan, but I think it is a stretch to say he has even tried to reach consensus.  One big reason why I think this is the way that he, or maybe I should just say democrats in congress, has opposed putting up the health care bills online for people to read after he campaign on a promise to be more transparent.  If it is the best thing for America then it should win on its merits and not need to be hidden or hurried through.  And he did try to push health care through back in July when he mandated to Congress that they need to pass health care reform before their recess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I greatly disagree that Obama is a consensus-builder by nature.  I understand all the politics surrounding health care and Afghanistan, but I think it is a stretch to say he has even tried to reach consensus.  One big reason why I think this is the way that he, or maybe I should just say democrats in congress, has opposed putting up the health care bills online for people to read after he campaign on a promise to be more transparent.  If it is the best thing for America then it should win on its merits and not need to be hidden or hurried through.  And he did try to push health care through back in July when he mandated to Congress that they need to pass health care reform before their recess.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95857</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do, on occasion.  What might I be surprised about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do, on occasion.  What might I be surprised about?</p>
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		<title>By: arachne646</title>
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		<dc:creator>arachne646</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if you watch or read any news about the U.S. from outside your country (BBC World, online stuff), but you might be surprised</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t know if you watch or read any news about the U.S. from outside your country (BBC World, online stuff), but you might be surprised</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95771</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I get the point you&#039;re trying to make.  It&#039;s just a bad point and the comparison to Ortega is faulty as well..  The idea that Bush pulls China&#039;s strings in negotiations with N. Korea is complete nonsense.  Do you actually believe that?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for passive voice, I wasn&#039;t asking you to poll everyone to get their opinion, I was asking you to identify which group of people you were talking about.  N Koreans?  Americans?  Europeans?  It matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I get the point you&#39;re trying to make.  It&#39;s just a bad point and the comparison to Ortega is faulty as well..  The idea that Bush pulls China&#39;s strings in negotiations with N. Korea is complete nonsense.  Do you actually believe that?</p>
<p>As for passive voice, I wasn&#39;t asking you to poll everyone to get their opinion, I was asking you to identify which group of people you were talking about.  N Koreans?  Americans?  Europeans?  It matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95770</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you&#039;re just being irrational.  In your mind AIDS relief for Africa apparently doesn&#039;t count in Bush&#039;s list of non-warmonger behavior because he didn&#039;t tout it enough to your satisfaction.  You&#039;re irrational dislike of Bush is bordering on delusional.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(By the way, have you read Michal Gerson lately or does he not count as one of Bush&#039;s people?  He talks and writes a lot about the AIDS relief.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your non-answer about how a cooperator would have handled N. Korea says a lot too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you&#39;re just being irrational.  In your mind AIDS relief for Africa apparently doesn&#39;t count in Bush&#39;s list of non-warmonger behavior because he didn&#39;t tout it enough to your satisfaction.  You&#39;re irrational dislike of Bush is bordering on delusional.</p>
<p>(By the way, have you read Michal Gerson lately or does he not count as one of Bush&#39;s people?  He talks and writes a lot about the AIDS relief.)</p>
<p>Your non-answer about how a cooperator would have handled N. Korea says a lot too.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95736</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;You&#039;re saying that Bush was always dominating. I&#039;m saying that&#039;s a bunch of bunk.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Bush people and his syncophants &lt;I&gt;never&lt;/I&gt; highlighted his work with AIDS and malaria in Africa (although several &quot;liberal&quot; columnists did).  They wanted him to be seen as a strong and decisive leader because they were concerned about staying in power BAMN and couldn&#039;t admit that his bullheadedness often caused more problems than it solved.  That&#039;s not even the fault of the media.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;I&gt;As for Obama, I&#039;ll repeat, there will come a time when he pursues American interests over the interests of the world - he will play the role of dominater.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I seriously doubt this because, as I&#039;ve mentioned, he&#039;s a consensus-builder by nature.  If he were the unilateralist you think is actually is at hear he would have already tried to push health insurance reform through without Republican help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You&#39;re saying that Bush was always dominating. I&#39;m saying that&#39;s a bunch of bunk.</i></p>
<p>The Bush people and his syncophants <i>never</i> highlighted his work with AIDS and malaria in Africa (although several &#8220;liberal&#8221; columnists did).  They wanted him to be seen as a strong and decisive leader because they were concerned about staying in power BAMN and couldn&#39;t admit that his bullheadedness often caused more problems than it solved.  That&#39;s not even the fault of the media.</p>
<p><i>As for Obama, I&#39;ll repeat, there will come a time when he pursues American interests over the interests of the world &#8211; he will play the role of dominater.</i></p>
<p>I seriously doubt this because, as I&#39;ve mentioned, he&#39;s a consensus-builder by nature.  If he were the unilateralist you think is actually is at hear he would have already tried to push health insurance reform through without Republican help.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95732</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;I disagree.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your opinion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;I&gt;Who you&#039;re talking about is very important.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not when there&#039;s a general consensus, because in a news story you often don&#039;t have the time or space to gather reaction from everywhere and everyone involved.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;I&gt;Bush was using the internationally accepted methods for dealing with a problem - getting a group of countries together to work towards a non-violent solution and you&#039;re condemning him for using a dominating tactic.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Actually, you miss the point.  Such folks (Ortega in 1980s Nicaragua was another example) want to deal with Washington &lt;I&gt;directly&lt;/I&gt; because in that case they see the American government as pulling the strings of its neighbors.  The Reagan Administration made no bones about its contempt for that regime and thus refused to engage it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I disagree.</i></p>
<p>Your opinion.</p>
<p><i>Who you&#39;re talking about is very important.</i></p>
<p>Not when there&#39;s a general consensus, because in a news story you often don&#39;t have the time or space to gather reaction from everywhere and everyone involved.</p>
<p><i>Bush was using the internationally accepted methods for dealing with a problem &#8211; getting a group of countries together to work towards a non-violent solution and you&#39;re condemning him for using a dominating tactic.</i></p>
<p>Actually, you miss the point.  Such folks (Ortega in 1980s Nicaragua was another example) want to deal with Washington <i>directly</i> because in that case they see the American government as pulling the strings of its neighbors.  The Reagan Administration made no bones about its contempt for that regime and thus refused to engage it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95731</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there are differences between Obama and Bush.  I&#039;m not trying to minimize them.  What I&#039;m trying to point out is that conventional wisdom&#039;s portrait of public figures is usually a lot cleaner and less ambiguous than reality.  Both Bush and Obama said nice, happy things about the MDGs.  Let&#039;s judge them on their policies, not their lofty idealistic rhetoric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there are differences between Obama and Bush.  I&#39;m not trying to minimize them.  What I&#39;m trying to point out is that conventional wisdom&#39;s portrait of public figures is usually a lot cleaner and less ambiguous than reality.  Both Bush and Obama said nice, happy things about the MDGs.  Let&#39;s judge them on their policies, not their lofty idealistic rhetoric.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95730</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, my beef is with you.  You&#039;re saying that Bush was &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; dominating.  I&#039;m saying that&#039;s a bunch of bunk.  I provided two examples of situations in which he acted in a way that was either selfless (AIDS and Malaria relief in Africa) or not in the usual unilateralist, Bush way (N. Korea).  You ignored the first and twisted the second in your mind into an example of U.S. domination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for Obama, I&#039;ll repeat, there will come a time when he pursues American interests over the interests of the world - he will play the role of dominater.  But people who love him will brush it off or ignore it and people who hate him will criticize him for it even though if their guy had done it they&#039;d applaud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, my beef is with you.  You&#39;re saying that Bush was <i>always</i> dominating.  I&#39;m saying that&#39;s a bunch of bunk.  I provided two examples of situations in which he acted in a way that was either selfless (AIDS and Malaria relief in Africa) or not in the usual unilateralist, Bush way (N. Korea).  You ignored the first and twisted the second in your mind into an example of U.S. domination.</p>
<p>As for Obama, I&#39;ll repeat, there will come a time when he pursues American interests over the interests of the world &#8211; he will play the role of dominater.  But people who love him will brush it off or ignore it and people who hate him will criticize him for it even though if their guy had done it they&#39;d applaud.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95729</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, please see my comment above to Deacon.  It explains why it&#039;s important to know who the ambiguous person/people are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, please see my comment above to Deacon.  It explains why it&#39;s important to know who the ambiguous person/people are.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric77</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95728</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree.   Knowing who could see multilateral talks as domination is key to understanding what you&#039;re talking about.  Is it N. Korea, other people around the world, American citizens, or you?  Who you&#039;re talking about is very important.  N. Korea could see any attempt to limit its access to nuclear weapons as domination.  I&#039;d agree with you if you were referring to N. Korea.  On the other hand, just because you see multilateral talks as an attempt at domination doesn&#039;t matter one bit.  Bush was using the internationally accepted methods for dealing with a problem - getting a group of countries together in a room to hash out a problem and you&#039;re condemning him for using a dominating tactic.  As I said, he can&#039;t win in your bizarre world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree.   Knowing who could see multilateral talks as domination is key to understanding what you&#39;re talking about.  Is it N. Korea, other people around the world, American citizens, or you?  Who you&#39;re talking about is very important.  N. Korea could see any attempt to limit its access to nuclear weapons as domination.  I&#39;d agree with you if you were referring to N. Korea.  On the other hand, just because you see multilateral talks as an attempt at domination doesn&#39;t matter one bit.  Bush was using the internationally accepted methods for dealing with a problem &#8211; getting a group of countries together in a room to hash out a problem and you&#39;re condemning him for using a dominating tactic.  As I said, he can&#39;t win in your bizarre world.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckeyeDon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuckeyeDon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, passive voice is appropriate when one wishes to emphasize the action itself and not the performer of that action. I believe that&#039;s the case in both of the sentences you are referring to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, passive voice is appropriate when one wishes to emphasize the action itself and not the performer of that action. I believe that&#39;s the case in both of the sentences you are referring to.</p>
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		<title>By: Mennoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mennoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People may see what they want to see in a lot of things. Religion is a good case in point. But there IS a qualitative difference between Bush and Obama. Merely dismissing those difference with simplistic cliches only blurs the lines and obfuscates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People may see what they want to see in a lot of things. Religion is a good case in point. But there IS a qualitative difference between Bush and Obama. Merely dismissing those difference with simplistic cliches only blurs the lines and obfuscates.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First thing:  If Obama hasn&#039;t learned already, he will learn very soon that you just can&#039;t negotiate or even deal with conservatives, who in over 30 years have yet to do anything in good faith with those that disagree with them.  The LA Times published an op-ed (which I linked to a post on another thread) that likened modern conservatism to a form of religion, which by definition defies the art of politics.  That&#039;s the basic problem with what we&#039;re seeing in Washington today and something that Obama can&#039;t do anything about.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Something else:  Obama may have had good intentions when he was campaigning; however, every politician ends up having to break promises he may full well have wanted to keep because he just didn&#039;t have the whole story.  I remember when Bill Clinton chided George H.W. Bush for &quot;coddling the Chinese&quot;; but when he actually got to the presidency he found out that &lt;I&gt;they&lt;/I&gt; were pulling the strings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First thing:  If Obama hasn&#39;t learned already, he will learn very soon that you just can&#39;t negotiate or even deal with conservatives, who in over 30 years have yet to do anything in good faith with those that disagree with them.  The LA Times published an op-ed (which I linked to a post on another thread) that likened modern conservatism to a form of religion, which by definition defies the art of politics.  That&#39;s the basic problem with what we&#39;re seeing in Washington today and something that Obama can&#39;t do anything about.</p>
<p>Something else:  Obama may have had good intentions when he was campaigning; however, every politician ends up having to break promises he may full well have wanted to keep because he just didn&#39;t have the whole story.  I remember when Bill Clinton chided George H.W. Bush for &#8220;coddling the Chinese&#8221;; but when he actually got to the presidency he found out that <i>they</i> were pulling the strings.</p>
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		<title>By: schroeder37</title>
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		<dc:creator>schroeder37</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine your speaking on the international side of things but obama did say &quot; I dont mind cleaning up the mess but they need to get out of the way&quot; not quite exact qoute but close. and he has not listened to repulicans at all or even met with them. as far as the internation side, bush allowed how long for Irag to follow the UN sanctions. he has dealth through the UN for as long as they were actually doing what they said they would do. And his words mean very little but to appease at the moment, never mind his wars, though inherited, he is following the same path as bush. Obama is good at picking his words, just not at following through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine your speaking on the international side of things but obama did say &#8221; I dont mind cleaning up the mess but they need to get out of the way&#8221; not quite exact qoute but close. and he has not listened to repulicans at all or even met with them. as far as the internation side, bush allowed how long for Irag to follow the UN sanctions. he has dealth through the UN for as long as they were actually doing what they said they would do. And his words mean very little but to appease at the moment, never mind his wars, though inherited, he is following the same path as bush. Obama is good at picking his words, just not at following through.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95693</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your beef is not with me.  Bush had to be seen as unyielding to play to his political base, which was indeed bent on domination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;I&gt;As for Obama, I&#039;m glad you admit that there will most likely come a time when he pursues America&#039;s interests over the world&#039;s, ...&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Didn&#039;t say that.  The &quot;American interests&quot; I was referring to actually represent the private interests of certain Americans, most notably businesses where policies Obama would possibly enact would compromise &lt;I&gt;their&lt;/I&gt; power.  Why do you think, for example, they&#039;re fighting health insurance reform so hard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your beef is not with me.  Bush had to be seen as unyielding to play to his political base, which was indeed bent on domination.</p>
<p><i>As for Obama, I&#39;m glad you admit that there will most likely come a time when he pursues America&#39;s interests over the world&#39;s, &#8230;</i></p>
<p>Didn&#39;t say that.  The &#8220;American interests&#8221; I was referring to actually represent the private interests of certain Americans, most notably businesses where policies Obama would possibly enact would compromise <i>their</i> power.  Why do you think, for example, they&#39;re fighting health insurance reform so hard?</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDeacon</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/19/nobel-obama-bono-and-rebranding-america/comment-page-1/#comment-95692</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes, however, the passive voice is required, especially when there is no obvious direct subject -- which was the case in my last posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, however, the passive voice is required, especially when there is no obvious direct subject &#8212; which was the case in my last posting.</p>
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