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		<title>By: pawheel</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/03/13022/comment-page-1/#comment-111868</link>
		<dc:creator>pawheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall reading that the approximate total of the financial crisis brought on by people taking bad mortgages was roughly a trillion dollars. The bigger problem was the banks and whoever taking this amount, using it to create value from thin air at a 10 to 1 ratio, which created over 10 trillion dollars out of thin air. That&#039;s responsible banking?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Have you ever gone to a mortgage closing and actually read the pile of paperwork they throw at you? I have, and they get REALLY pissed off because they schedule 15 to 30 minutes of their time for the whole process.&lt;br&gt; I have a close friend who is a functional illiterate. He went to get a mortgage about a year after a fire destroyed his house, about 3 years ago. He went to a lender and showed proof of $2000 monthly income. They put him into an $1800 monthly mortgage. Of course the blame is shared between him and the lender, but the lender took that bogus mortgage and no doubt got the responsibility for that loan out of their hands as fast as possible. That&#039;s responsible lending? &lt;br&gt;Yes banks do have some level of responsibility to somewhat control their business, even if it is only a moral responsibility. It is for the greater good of the state or country they work and live in. That&#039;s part of  where our country is creating it&#039;s own problems. Long term planning is putting other countries in a better position than the US, much like Ford is doing better than GM or Chrysler, because Ford saved some money for a rainy day and carried less debt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall reading that the approximate total of the financial crisis brought on by people taking bad mortgages was roughly a trillion dollars. The bigger problem was the banks and whoever taking this amount, using it to create value from thin air at a 10 to 1 ratio, which created over 10 trillion dollars out of thin air. That&#39;s responsible banking?</p>
<p> Have you ever gone to a mortgage closing and actually read the pile of paperwork they throw at you? I have, and they get REALLY pissed off because they schedule 15 to 30 minutes of their time for the whole process.<br /> I have a close friend who is a functional illiterate. He went to get a mortgage about a year after a fire destroyed his house, about 3 years ago. He went to a lender and showed proof of $2000 monthly income. They put him into an $1800 monthly mortgage. Of course the blame is shared between him and the lender, but the lender took that bogus mortgage and no doubt got the responsibility for that loan out of their hands as fast as possible. That&#39;s responsible lending? <br />Yes banks do have some level of responsibility to somewhat control their business, even if it is only a moral responsibility. It is for the greater good of the state or country they work and live in. That&#39;s part of  where our country is creating it&#39;s own problems. Long term planning is putting other countries in a better position than the US, much like Ford is doing better than GM or Chrysler, because Ford saved some money for a rainy day and carried less debt.</p>
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		<title>By: pawheel</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/03/13022/comment-page-1/#comment-96989</link>
		<dc:creator>pawheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall reading that the approximate total of the financial crisis brought on by people taking bad mortgages was roughly a trillion dollars. The bigger problem was the banks and whoever taking this amount, using it to create value from thin air at a 10 to 1 ratio, which created over 10 trillion dollars out of thin air. That&#039;s responsible banking?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Have you ever gone to a mortgage closing and actually read the pile of paperwork they throw at you? I have, and they get REALLY pissed off because they schedule 15 to 30 minutes of their time for the whole process.&lt;br&gt; I have a close friend who is a functional illiterate. He went to get a mortgage about a year after a fire destroyed his house, about 3 years ago. He went to a lender and showed proof of $2000 monthly income. They put him into an $1800 monthly mortgage. Of course the blame is shared between him and the lender, but the lender took that bogus mortgage and no doubt got the responsibility for that loan out of their hands as fast as possible. That&#039;s responsible lending? &lt;br&gt;Yes banks do have some level of responsibility to somewhat control their business, even if it is only a moral responsibility. It is for the greater good of the state or country they work and live in. That&#039;s part of  where our country is creating it&#039;s own problems. Long term planning is putting other countries in a better position than the US, much like Ford is doing better than GM or Chrysler, because Ford saved some money for a rainy day and carried less debt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall reading that the approximate total of the financial crisis brought on by people taking bad mortgages was roughly a trillion dollars. The bigger problem was the banks and whoever taking this amount, using it to create value from thin air at a 10 to 1 ratio, which created over 10 trillion dollars out of thin air. That&#39;s responsible banking?</p>
<p> Have you ever gone to a mortgage closing and actually read the pile of paperwork they throw at you? I have, and they get REALLY pissed off because they schedule 15 to 30 minutes of their time for the whole process.<br /> I have a close friend who is a functional illiterate. He went to get a mortgage about a year after a fire destroyed his house, about 3 years ago. He went to a lender and showed proof of $2000 monthly income. They put him into an $1800 monthly mortgage. Of course the blame is shared between him and the lender, but the lender took that bogus mortgage and no doubt got the responsibility for that loan out of their hands as fast as possible. That&#39;s responsible lending? <br />Yes banks do have some level of responsibility to somewhat control their business, even if it is only a moral responsibility. It is for the greater good of the state or country they work and live in. That&#39;s part of  where our country is creating it&#39;s own problems. Long term planning is putting other countries in a better position than the US, much like Ford is doing better than GM or Chrysler, because Ford saved some money for a rainy day and carried less debt.</p>
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		<title>By: Calling Big Banks to Account &#124; The Just Life</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/03/13022/comment-page-1/#comment-96934</link>
		<dc:creator>Calling Big Banks to Account &#124; The Just Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: letjusticerolldown</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/03/13022/comment-page-1/#comment-96875</link>
		<dc:creator>letjusticerolldown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me???Who had to be bailed out to prevent the collapse of the global financial system?? Oh yes, the poor helpless, ignorant, innocent banks who got beat up and defrauded by those big bad moms and dads buying a home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me???Who had to be bailed out to prevent the collapse of the global financial system?? Oh yes, the poor helpless, ignorant, innocent banks who got beat up and defrauded by those big bad moms and dads buying a home.</p>
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		<title>By: Morna</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/03/13022/comment-page-1/#comment-96863</link>
		<dc:creator>Morna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The people buy houses they could never afford, run up credit card bills far beyond their means, and then the banks are at fault for not being these people&#039;s baby-sitters? Please.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that it is the individual&#039;s responsibility to use credit wisely, but something is wrong when large banks are able to increase rates (from 7% to 24% in some cases) without notice and use high-pressure sales tactics to encourage &quot;creative financing&quot; for mortgages.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People who sign up for credit should have the right to know what they are signing up for, and to have terms and conditions explained fully, without emotional manipulation.  Those things have been denied to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The people buy houses they could never afford, run up credit card bills far beyond their means, and then the banks are at fault for not being these people&#39;s baby-sitters? Please.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that it is the individual&#39;s responsibility to use credit wisely, but something is wrong when large banks are able to increase rates (from 7% to 24% in some cases) without notice and use high-pressure sales tactics to encourage &#8220;creative financing&#8221; for mortgages.  </p>
<p>People who sign up for credit should have the right to know what they are signing up for, and to have terms and conditions explained fully, without emotional manipulation.  Those things have been denied to them.</p>
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		<title>By: nuclearferret</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/03/13022/comment-page-1/#comment-96857</link>
		<dc:creator>nuclearferret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AFL-CIO is renowned for their knowledge of banking, as evidenced by this excerpted speech.  The people buy houses they could never afford, run up credit card bills far beyond their means, and then the banks are at fault for not being these people&#039;s baby-sitters?  Please.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For profit banks are not built to &quot;serve the community&quot; any more than any other for profit entity.  You want non-profit banking?  Go to your local credit union.  Choose a neighborhood bank, instead of a Chase or Citigroup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AFL-CIO is renowned for their knowledge of banking, as evidenced by this excerpted speech.  The people buy houses they could never afford, run up credit card bills far beyond their means, and then the banks are at fault for not being these people&#39;s baby-sitters?  Please.  </p>
<p>For profit banks are not built to &#8220;serve the community&#8221; any more than any other for profit entity.  You want non-profit banking?  Go to your local credit union.  Choose a neighborhood bank, instead of a Chase or Citigroup.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesdisciple</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/03/13022/comment-page-1/#comment-96849</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesdisciple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to suggest that anti-trust laws need a broader scope, but that&#039;s only a symptom of the problem.  Maybe laws should address some of these specific issues the protesters mentioned.  For example, set a maximum boss-to-peon wage ratio - maybe even replace the minimum wage with it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The one qualm I have with this is that, while the courts are probably one of the least threatening government institutions, they do like to read laws as what they would have meant by those words, or worse yet what they wish the words meant.  Redefinition should not constitute legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to suggest that anti-trust laws need a broader scope, but that&#39;s only a symptom of the problem.  Maybe laws should address some of these specific issues the protesters mentioned.  For example, set a maximum boss-to-peon wage ratio &#8211; maybe even replace the minimum wage with it.</p>
<p>The one qualm I have with this is that, while the courts are probably one of the least threatening government institutions, they do like to read laws as what they would have meant by those words, or worse yet what they wish the words meant.  Redefinition should not constitute legislation.</p>
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