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	<title>Comments on: Will Violence Have the Last Word at Fort Hood?</title>
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		<title>By: donaldjames</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/09/will-violence-have-the-last-word-at-fort-hood/comment-page-1/#comment-110142</link>
		<dc:creator>donaldjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One dimension missing from this article and the following comments seems to be the question of whether Major Hasan&#039;s motives were those of &quot;radical Islam&quot;.  As we know radical Islam threatens America very openly.  Very, very troubling to me is that Hasan&#039;s anti-American views were well known in advance of this massacre, to colleagues and possibly even to the CIA.  When Jesus asked his followers to turn the other cheek, I don&#039;t think he had in mind closing our eyes to the threat of terrorism on our own soil.  I look forward to a positive response to Senator Lieberman&#039;s call for a congressional inquiry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One dimension missing from this article and the following comments seems to be the question of whether Major Hasan&#39;s motives were those of &#8220;radical Islam&#8221;.  As we know radical Islam threatens America very openly.  Very, very troubling to me is that Hasan&#39;s anti-American views were well known in advance of this massacre, to colleagues and possibly even to the CIA.  When Jesus asked his followers to turn the other cheek, I don&#39;t think he had in mind closing our eyes to the threat of terrorism on our own soil.  I look forward to a positive response to Senator Lieberman&#39;s call for a congressional inquiry.</p>
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		<title>By: donaldjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>donaldjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One dimension missing from this article and the following comments seems to be the question of whether Major Hasan&#039;s motives were those of &quot;radical Islam&quot;.  As we know radical Islam threatens America very openly.  Very, very troubling to me is that Hasan&#039;s anti-American views were well known in advance of this massacre, to colleagues and possibly even to the CIA.  When Jesus asked his followers to turn the other cheek, I don&#039;t think he had in mind closing our eyes to the threat of terrorism on our own soil.  I look forward to a positive response to Senator Lieberman&#039;s call for a congressional inquiry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One dimension missing from this article and the following comments seems to be the question of whether Major Hasan&#39;s motives were those of &#8220;radical Islam&#8221;.  As we know radical Islam threatens America very openly.  Very, very troubling to me is that Hasan&#39;s anti-American views were well known in advance of this massacre, to colleagues and possibly even to the CIA.  When Jesus asked his followers to turn the other cheek, I don&#39;t think he had in mind closing our eyes to the threat of terrorism on our own soil.  I look forward to a positive response to Senator Lieberman&#39;s call for a congressional inquiry.</p>
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		<title>By: Weiwen Ng</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/09/will-violence-have-the-last-word-at-fort-hood/comment-page-1/#comment-97295</link>
		<dc:creator>Weiwen Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s my point exactly - Jesus specifically said to turn the other cheek, but His followers have been so sloppy about following that that you&#039;d think Jesus said the exact opposite. The Crusades are a great example.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The point remains that you are showing profound disrespect to Islam. That doesn&#039;t mean you can&#039;t have problems with some of its teachings, because I do. However, Islam has had its peaceful periods over the years. Islam has the theological resources to support peace. Christianity does, too. But you are gravely mistaken if you think Christianity to be inherently superior to Islam in that regard - the behavior of Christians through the years has shown otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s my point exactly &#8211; Jesus specifically said to turn the other cheek, but His followers have been so sloppy about following that that you&#39;d think Jesus said the exact opposite. The Crusades are a great example.</p>
<p>The point remains that you are showing profound disrespect to Islam. That doesn&#39;t mean you can&#39;t have problems with some of its teachings, because I do. However, Islam has had its peaceful periods over the years. Islam has the theological resources to support peace. Christianity does, too. But you are gravely mistaken if you think Christianity to be inherently superior to Islam in that regard &#8211; the behavior of Christians through the years has shown otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe_Allen_Doty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe_Allen_Doty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Christians&quot; who committed violent acts non-Believers did so AFTER the Byzantine Emperor Constantine decided to turn the churches in his empire into a politically organized religious institution. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;None of Jesus&#039; followers committed acts of violence after the Resurrection. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All of the evil done in the name of Christianity had no connection with Jesus and his unconditional love. Jesus never said &quot;Kill you enemies&quot; or &quot;Kill those who don&#039;t believe in me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Christians&#8221; who committed violent acts non-Believers did so AFTER the Byzantine Emperor Constantine decided to turn the churches in his empire into a politically organized religious institution. </p>
<p>None of Jesus&#39; followers committed acts of violence after the Resurrection. </p>
<p>All of the evil done in the name of Christianity had no connection with Jesus and his unconditional love. Jesus never said &#8220;Kill you enemies&#8221; or &#8220;Kill those who don&#39;t believe in me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SavannahRose</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/09/will-violence-have-the-last-word-at-fort-hood/comment-page-1/#comment-97241</link>
		<dc:creator>SavannahRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because he was a mental health professional does not mean he did not have serious mental health issues or serious mental illness himself.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I used to attend an evangelical church with a psychologist on staff, a man with a doctorate degree in psychology from a major big-ten university.  Although he did not kill anyone, he destroyed and attempted to destroy people&#039;s lives in ways that shocked all of us.  He betrayed his patients in some horrific ways.  It became clear to us that he was seriously mentally ill.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My point is that even someone that educated in mental health and even someone who purports to be a Christian can do terrible things.  It just makes it all the harder to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because he was a mental health professional does not mean he did not have serious mental health issues or serious mental illness himself.  </p>
<p>I used to attend an evangelical church with a psychologist on staff, a man with a doctorate degree in psychology from a major big-ten university.  Although he did not kill anyone, he destroyed and attempted to destroy people&#39;s lives in ways that shocked all of us.  He betrayed his patients in some horrific ways.  It became clear to us that he was seriously mentally ill.</p>
<p>My point is that even someone that educated in mental health and even someone who purports to be a Christian can do terrible things.  It just makes it all the harder to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: cleric60</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleric60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do it in the name of heaven, you can justify it in the end&quot; as the folk song so rightly puts it&quot;. God of the Universe does not need weak, frail human beings to kill/murder in in His Name. All three major religions, Jewish, Islam, Christian treasure the word &quot;Peace&quot;, yet they &quot;war&quot; against one another...why?  Are they not using their&lt;br&gt;religion as a pretense to cover up their  lusty need for power, fame, glory, earthly gain, land,  and oil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do it in the name of heaven, you can justify it in the end&#8221; as the folk song so rightly puts it&#8221;. God of the Universe does not need weak, frail human beings to kill/murder in in His Name. All three major religions, Jewish, Islam, Christian treasure the word &#8220;Peace&#8221;, yet they &#8220;war&#8221; against one another&#8230;why?  Are they not using their<br />religion as a pretense to cover up their  lusty need for power, fame, glory, earthly gain, land,  and oil?</p>
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		<title>By: Weiwen Ng</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/09/will-violence-have-the-last-word-at-fort-hood/comment-page-1/#comment-97230</link>
		<dc:creator>Weiwen Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t refer to others&#039; holy books in scare quotes. And Christians have had enough of a history with violence that you&#039;d think Jesus Himself said to conduct genocide.</description>
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		<title>By: wintermay</title>
		<link>http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/09/will-violence-have-the-last-word-at-fort-hood/comment-page-1/#comment-97228</link>
		<dc:creator>wintermay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel we do not have all the necessary information ever - but we should have more in order to make sense - otherwiese the conclusions are &quot;a shot in the dark&quot;.&lt;br&gt;From the information  on media we &quot;can gather&quot; that there was too much strain on a medical professional dealing with the mental disorders of those coming back from the war zones - and showing the effects  - the loss of &quot;normal&quot; life inside one&#039; mind - the endless nightmares, the need to find forgiveness for oneself and &quot;the other&quot;.&lt;br&gt;To face the notion of fighting all this (after accepting the &quot;other&quot; as our brother - go and fight him - into Iraq or elsewhere, as your foe). &lt;br&gt;Those in hierarchy should be aware of the conflicts in one&#039;s mind this involves. Either one is trained to forgive -or to hate and go to war - both it is a &quot;snapping&quot; process.&lt;br&gt;I do not excuse killing - nor the death penalty. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We need understanding the &quot;other&quot;, in many shapes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel we do not have all the necessary information ever &#8211; but we should have more in order to make sense &#8211; otherwiese the conclusions are &#8220;a shot in the dark&#8221;.<br />From the information  on media we &#8220;can gather&#8221; that there was too much strain on a medical professional dealing with the mental disorders of those coming back from the war zones &#8211; and showing the effects  &#8211; the loss of &#8220;normal&#8221; life inside one&#39; mind &#8211; the endless nightmares, the need to find forgiveness for oneself and &#8220;the other&#8221;.<br />To face the notion of fighting all this (after accepting the &#8220;other&#8221; as our brother &#8211; go and fight him &#8211; into Iraq or elsewhere, as your foe). <br />Those in hierarchy should be aware of the conflicts in one&#39;s mind this involves. Either one is trained to forgive -or to hate and go to war &#8211; both it is a &#8220;snapping&#8221; process.<br />I do not excuse killing &#8211; nor the death penalty. </p>
<p>We need understanding the &#8220;other&#8221;, in many shapes.</p>
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		<title>By: from Sojourners: &#34;Will Violence Have the Last Word at Fort Hood?&#34; &#124; The Just Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>from Sojourners: &#34;Will Violence Have the Last Word at Fort Hood?&#34; &#124; The Just Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Writing for Sojourners, Logan Laituri shares his reactions to the recent violence at the Fort Hood b... He writes, &#8220;If we succumb to the temptation to hold malice and rage towards Major Hasan, we will, as John Howard Yoder might put it, become just another sociological reflection of the world and embody the message that there is truly nothing new about Christ.&#8221; What are your reactions?  Link:&#160;   Will Violence Have the Last Word at Fort Hood? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Writing for Sojourners, Logan Laituri shares his reactions to the recent violence at the Fort Hood b&#8230; He writes, &#8220;If we succumb to the temptation to hold malice and rage towards Major Hasan, we will, as John Howard Yoder might put it, become just another sociological reflection of the world and embody the message that there is truly nothing new about Christ.&#8221; What are your reactions?  Link:&nbsp;   Will Violence Have the Last Word at Fort Hood? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LCD TV Installs – Points you will need to consider &#124; Home Cinema Insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCD TV Installs – Points you will need to consider &#124; Home Cinema Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will Violence Have the Last Word at Fort Hood? &#8211; Logan Laituri &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joe_Allen_Doty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe_Allen_Doty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conflict here is that the training and education which Major Hasan got to get him certified as a mental health professional conflicted with his religious beliefs. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are many Christians who have PhDs in mental health and they are licensed and certified, too. But, some of those believe that it is a sin to be gay and that one is not born exclusively homosexual in his sexual orientation. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Both the Hebrew Scriptures and the &quot;scriptures&quot; which the Muslims use have commands of violence toward infidels. But, there is no such thing in the teachings of the New Testament Scriptures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conflict here is that the training and education which Major Hasan got to get him certified as a mental health professional conflicted with his religious beliefs. </p>
<p>There are many Christians who have PhDs in mental health and they are licensed and certified, too. But, some of those believe that it is a sin to be gay and that one is not born exclusively homosexual in his sexual orientation. </p>
<p>Both the Hebrew Scriptures and the &#8220;scriptures&#8221; which the Muslims use have commands of violence toward infidels. But, there is no such thing in the teachings of the New Testament Scriptures.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe_Allen_Doty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe_Allen_Doty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was stationed with the 196th Light Infantry Brigade and later Americal Division, I was a Clerk-Typist in the Staff Judge Advocate Sections. While I don&#039;t remember typing paperwork for or being involved in any capital courts-martial cases, I was a bailiff for 3 manslaughter courts-martial. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the US Military, even when one is accused of violating one of the laws of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, one is considered guilty until proven innocent. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am saddened because this happened; but, our military outside of the United States of America, both the States and Territories, is doing absolutely nothing to defend the freedoms of US Citizens living inside USA&#039;s states and territories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was stationed with the 196th Light Infantry Brigade and later Americal Division, I was a Clerk-Typist in the Staff Judge Advocate Sections. While I don&#39;t remember typing paperwork for or being involved in any capital courts-martial cases, I was a bailiff for 3 manslaughter courts-martial. </p>
<p>In the US Military, even when one is accused of violating one of the laws of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, one is considered guilty until proven innocent. </p>
<p>I am saddened because this happened; but, our military outside of the United States of America, both the States and Territories, is doing absolutely nothing to defend the freedoms of US Citizens living inside USA&#39;s states and territories.</p>
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		<title>By: Islam, Fort Hood, and Truth &#171; The Reformed Pastor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Islam, Fort Hood, and Truth &#171; The Reformed Pastor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fort Hood, and&#160;Truth  Logan Laituri of Centurion&#8217;s Guild, in a blog post at Sojourners, asks the question, &#8220;Will violence have the last word at Fort Hood?&#8221; He&#8217;s worried [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bodysoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>bodysoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for helping us remember that Major Hasan is just another human being.  It is difficult to deal with.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But why do I get to decide that these deaths at Fort Hood are any more heinous than if they&#039;d been &quot;in action&quot; in Afghanistan or Iraq?  And why are these deaths are more painful to me than the deaths of 13 citizens of Afghanistan or Iraq?  Does God really see these lives &amp; deaths my way &amp; rank their worth through my opinions &amp; prejudices? Or does God weep the same for every death, irregardless of who &amp; why? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems to me that putting so much blame on Major Hasan (who is so conveniently &quot;not like me&quot;) is just a way for me to soothe my conscience &amp; my fears.  Our military is &quot;supposed&quot; to protect me &amp; that&#039;s supposed to make me safe.  How can I feel safe when this happens?   And if I focus enough on Major Hasan, I don&#039;t have to take any responsibility for my own apathy &amp; contributions to this messy little game we call war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for helping us remember that Major Hasan is just another human being.  It is difficult to deal with.  </p>
<p>But why do I get to decide that these deaths at Fort Hood are any more heinous than if they&#39;d been &#8220;in action&#8221; in Afghanistan or Iraq?  And why are these deaths are more painful to me than the deaths of 13 citizens of Afghanistan or Iraq?  Does God really see these lives &#038; deaths my way &#038; rank their worth through my opinions &#038; prejudices? Or does God weep the same for every death, irregardless of who &#038; why? </p>
<p>It seems to me that putting so much blame on Major Hasan (who is so conveniently &#8220;not like me&#8221;) is just a way for me to soothe my conscience &#038; my fears.  Our military is &#8220;supposed&#8221; to protect me &#038; that&#39;s supposed to make me safe.  How can I feel safe when this happens?   And if I focus enough on Major Hasan, I don&#39;t have to take any responsibility for my own apathy &#038; contributions to this messy little game we call war.</p>
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		<title>By: judithod</title>
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		<dc:creator>judithod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Major Hasan violated much, much more than &quot;many assumptions&quot;; he violated the right to life of 13 innocent people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major Hasan violated much, much more than &#8220;many assumptions&#8221;; he violated the right to life of 13 innocent people.</p>
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		<title>By: JoannaCW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoannaCW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. Logan.  Like you, I&#039;ll be praying for clarity and compassion.</description>
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		<title>By: pcnot4me</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcnot4me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Could some form of PTSD really have compelled him to snap? At least one news network is labeling his motivation as “compassion fatigue.”  We may never know for sure what ultimately led Major Hasan to do what he did.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Actually we do know.  He is a muslim extremist.  They really mean it when they say that want to kill us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Could some form of PTSD really have compelled him to snap? At least one news network is labeling his motivation as “compassion fatigue.”  We may never know for sure what ultimately led Major Hasan to do what he did.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually we do know.  He is a muslim extremist.  They really mean it when they say that want to kill us.</p>
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