Comments on: Thanking the Refugee (The Plank in Australia’s Eye, Part 2) http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/10/thanking-the-refugee-the-plank-in-australias-eye-part-2/ A Blog by Jim Wallis and Friends Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:50:19 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dicky28 http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/10/thanking-the-refugee-the-plank-in-australias-eye-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-111869 Dicky28 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:21:46 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13181#comment-111869 I'm sure we've all been watching the people in Haiti fighting over the aid that is being handed out. I'm sure no one thinks this is a good situation. It is much safer for those being aided and is also much fairer if the aid is handed out in an orderly fashion on the basis of who is in most need. The way it is happening now, those who need it the least are getting the most aid. It is survival of the fittest (strongest). Those most in need have no chance of fighting their way through everybody else to get the aid. It is the same with boat people (refugees) coming to Australia. Those 'refugees' that arrive in Australia by boat are those who have managed to finance their travels half way around the world, through numerous countries, and then can afford to pay a lot of money to the Indonesian people smugglers to bring them across to Australia. Those most in need of refuge are stuck in some UN camp much closer to where they have come from. They don't have the means that the boat people have. The last few Australian Governments have all greatly increased our refugee intake. Those who are welcomed are those judged to need our help the most. Encouraging people to come illegally by boat risks their lives and encourages corrupt practices, just the same as chucking the aid out of a helicopter does. In that situation, the strongest get the aid and then have power over everybody else to distrbute as they see fit. Does anyone truly believe that is the best system? Do you Jarrod? I'd like to hear your thoughts. I'm sure we've all been watching the people in Haiti fighting over the aid that is being handed out. I'm sure no one thinks this is a good situation. It is much safer for those being aided and is also much fairer if the aid is handed out in an orderly fashion on the basis of who is in most need. The way it is happening now, those who need it the least are getting the most aid. It is survival of the fittest (strongest). Those most in need have no chance of fighting their way through everybody else to get the aid. It is the same with boat people (refugees) coming to Australia. Those 'refugees' that arrive in Australia by boat are those who have managed to finance their travels half way around the world, through numerous countries, and then can afford to pay a lot of money to the Indonesian people smugglers to bring them across to Australia. Those most in need of refuge are stuck in some UN camp much closer to where they have come from. They don't have the means that the boat people have. The last few Australian Governments have all greatly increased our refugee intake. Those who are welcomed are those judged to need our help the most. Encouraging people to come illegally by boat risks their lives and encourages corrupt practices, just the same as chucking the aid out of a helicopter does. In that situation, the strongest get the aid and then have power over everybody else to distrbute as they see fit. Does anyone truly believe that is the best system? Do you Jarrod? I'd like to hear your thoughts.

]]> By: Dicky28 http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/10/thanking-the-refugee-the-plank-in-australias-eye-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-102576 Dicky28 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:21:46 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13181#comment-102576 I'm sure we've all been watching the people in Haiti fighting over the aid that is being handed out. I'm sure no one thinks this is a good situation. It is much safer for those being aided and is also much fairer if the aid is handed out in an orderly fashion on the basis of who is in most need. The way it is happening now, those who need it the least are getting the most aid. It is survival of the fittest (strongest). Those most in need have no chance of fighting their way through everybody else to get the aid. It is the same with boat people (refugees) coming to Australia. Those 'refugees' that arrive in Australia by boat are those who have managed to finance their travels half way around the world, through numerous countries, and then can afford to pay a lot of money to the Indonesian people smugglers to bring them across to Australia. Those most in need of refuge are stuck in some UN camp much closer to where they have come from. They don't have the means that the boat people have. The last few Australian Governments have all greatly increased our refugee intake. Those who are welcomed are those judged to need our help the most. Encouraging people to come illegally by boat risks their lives and encourages corrupt practices, just the same as chucking the aid out of a helicopter does. In that situation, the strongest get the aid and then have power over everybody else to distrbute as they see fit. Does anyone truly believe that is the best system? Do you Jarrod? I'd like to hear your thoughts. I'm sure we've all been watching the people in Haiti fighting over the aid that is being handed out. I'm sure no one thinks this is a good situation. It is much safer for those being aided and is also much fairer if the aid is handed out in an orderly fashion on the basis of who is in most need. The way it is happening now, those who need it the least are getting the most aid. It is survival of the fittest (strongest). Those most in need have no chance of fighting their way through everybody else to get the aid. It is the same with boat people (refugees) coming to Australia. Those 'refugees' that arrive in Australia by boat are those who have managed to finance their travels half way around the world, through numerous countries, and then can afford to pay a lot of money to the Indonesian people smugglers to bring them across to Australia. Those most in need of refuge are stuck in some UN camp much closer to where they have come from. They don't have the means that the boat people have. The last few Australian Governments have all greatly increased our refugee intake. Those who are welcomed are those judged to need our help the most. Encouraging people to come illegally by boat risks their lives and encourages corrupt practices, just the same as chucking the aid out of a helicopter does. In that situation, the strongest get the aid and then have power over everybody else to distrbute as they see fit. Does anyone truly believe that is the best system? Do you Jarrod? I'd like to hear your thoughts.

]]> By: Ivriniel http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/10/thanking-the-refugee-the-plank-in-australias-eye-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-97343 Ivriniel Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:51:39 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13181#comment-97343 The link to part 1 returns a 404 error. The link to part 1 returns a 404 error.

]]> By: Thanking the Refugee (The Plank in Australia’s Eye, Part 2) | The Just Life http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/10/thanking-the-refugee-the-plank-in-australias-eye-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-97330 Thanking the Refugee (The Plank in Australia’s Eye, Part 2) | The Just Life Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:51 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13181#comment-97330 [...] Thanking the Refugee (The Plank in Australia’s Eye, Part 2) The Just Life | Nov 11, 2009 | 0 comments [...] [...] Thanking the Refugee (The Plank in Australia’s Eye, Part 2) The Just Life | Nov 11, 2009 | 0 comments [...]

]]> By: Morna http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/10/thanking-the-refugee-the-plank-in-australias-eye-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-97299 Morna Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:41:01 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13181#comment-97299 This is true. When the followers of Martin Luther King sat at the front of buses and at "white only" lunch counters, they also knew they were committing a crime. What is legal is not always what is morally right. This is true. When the followers of Martin Luther King sat at the front of buses and at “white only” lunch counters, they also knew they were committing a crime. What is legal is not always what is morally right.

]]> By: Joe_Allen_Doty http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/10/thanking-the-refugee-the-plank-in-australias-eye-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-97284 Joe_Allen_Doty Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:13:54 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13181#comment-97284 Most of the undocumented aliens who crossed the border from Mexico into the USA and not going through the established Ports of Entry knew they were going to be breaking the law BEFORE they left Mexico. <br><br>Knowingly breaking a law is definitely a crime. Most of the undocumented aliens who crossed the border from Mexico into the USA and not going through the established Ports of Entry knew they were going to be breaking the law BEFORE they left Mexico.

Knowingly breaking a law is definitely a crime.

]]> By: ckgmail http://blog.sojo.net/2009/11/10/thanking-the-refugee-the-plank-in-australias-eye-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-97245 ckgmail Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:53:16 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13181#comment-97245 Thank you Jarrod, for your witness to peace and humanity under God, down under. We don't have refugees arriving in leaky boats in my part of the USA, but rather wading a shallow river with leaky boots. The Old Testament frequently appeals to humane treatment for aliens and strangers, reminding the Israelites that they were aliens in Egypt. One place in Leviticus, I don't recall the exact chapter and verse, admonishes to treat the alien as a citizen. I don't speak of "illegal" aliens, but of undocumented neighbors. Thank you Jarrod, for your witness to peace and humanity under God, down under. We don't have refugees arriving in leaky boats in my part of the USA, but rather wading a shallow river with leaky boots. The Old Testament frequently appeals to humane treatment for aliens and strangers, reminding the Israelites that they were aliens in Egypt. One place in Leviticus, I don't recall the exact chapter and verse, admonishes to treat the alien as a citizen. I don't speak of “illegal” aliens, but of undocumented neighbors.

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