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		<title>By: Deep Muck Big Rake &#187; Mammogram guidelines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deep Muck Big Rake &#187; Mammogram guidelines</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: scat</title>
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		<dc:creator>scat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, what liberals do is debate, disagree, discuss and criticize.  they have no qualms about c riticizing the government and reporting negative news. That is why they are often described as indecisive, lacking in unity, etc. They even talk to conservatives and sometimes agree with them.  That is a core difference between right and left. UNity of thought is a rare commodity on the left, and is a requirement on the right.  and don&#039;t even try to start on the rest of us in the middle who defy labels altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, what liberals do is debate, disagree, discuss and criticize.  they have no qualms about c riticizing the government and reporting negative news. That is why they are often described as indecisive, lacking in unity, etc. They even talk to conservatives and sometimes agree with them.  That is a core difference between right and left. UNity of thought is a rare commodity on the left, and is a requirement on the right.  and don&#39;t even try to start on the rest of us in the middle who defy labels altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: scat</title>
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		<dc:creator>scat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, what liberals do is debate, disagree, discuss and criticize.  they have no qualms about c riticizing the government and reporting negative news. That is why they are often described as indecisive, lacking in unity, etc. They even talk to conservatives and sometimes agree with them.  That is a core difference between right and left. UNity of thought is a rare commodity on the left, and is a requirement on the right.  and don&#039;t even try to start on the rest of us in the middle who defy labels altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, what liberals do is debate, disagree, discuss and criticize.  they have no qualms about c riticizing the government and reporting negative news. That is why they are often described as indecisive, lacking in unity, etc. They even talk to conservatives and sometimes agree with them.  That is a core difference between right and left. UNity of thought is a rare commodity on the left, and is a requirement on the right.  and don&#39;t even try to start on the rest of us in the middle who defy labels altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: KentuckyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>KentuckyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just saw Dr, Healy again on CNN.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, it&#039;s about time!  I guess a day late is better than never.  That&#039;s kind of their typical practice when it comes to news that sheds a negative light on government under Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just saw Dr, Healy again on CNN.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, it&#39;s about time!  I guess a day late is better than never.  That&#39;s kind of their typical practice when it comes to news that sheds a negative light on government under Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: scat</title>
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		<dc:creator>scat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The opinions of a whole bunch of other conservatives does not constitute proof.&lt;br&gt;Just saw Dr, Healy again on CNN.</description>
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		<title>By: KentuckyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>KentuckyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You betcha!  I am most definitely making the assertion that there is wide-spread liberal bias.  And I am proving it, but I&#039;m not able or interested in spending my entire day on this blog offering you all the proof that exists out there. There is so much, it would take an extremely long time! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But if you decide someday to check it out for yourself, there are tons of resources and proof on the internet, and I&#039;d be happy to steer you to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You betcha!  I am most definitely making the assertion that there is wide-spread liberal bias.  And I am proving it, but I&#39;m not able or interested in spending my entire day on this blog offering you all the proof that exists out there. There is so much, it would take an extremely long time! </p>
<p>But if you decide someday to check it out for yourself, there are tons of resources and proof on the internet, and I&#39;d be happy to steer you to them.</p>
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		<title>By: KentuckyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>KentuckyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what liberals typically do-- dismiss valid arguments, not by refuting them with sources, proof, statistics, or anything backed by any type of research, but with their own opinion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for me, I would expect nothing different from CNN or MSNB, other than to ignore negative political news-- they are liberal &quot;journalists.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what liberals typically do&#8211; dismiss valid arguments, not by refuting them with sources, proof, statistics, or anything backed by any type of research, but with their own opinion.</p>
<p>As for me, I would expect nothing different from CNN or MSNB, other than to ignore negative political news&#8211; they are liberal &#8220;journalists.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: KentuckyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>KentuckyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&quot;Right underrepresented in press&#039;s diversity&quot;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/mar/18/right-underrepresented-in-presss-diversity/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/mar/18...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Only 6 percent of the national press corps describe themselves as &quot;conservative&quot; in a population that includes reporters, editors and producers from major television and radio networks, daily newspapers, news wires and online sources. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those who consider themselves &quot;very conservative&quot; amount to just 2 percent, according to a wide-ranging survey of 585 journalists and news executives released yesterday by the Project for Excellence in Journalism.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;Right underrepresented in press&#39;s diversity&#8221;</b> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/mar/18/right-underrepresented-in-presss-diversity/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/mar/18.." rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/mar/18..</a>.</p>
<p><i>Only 6 percent of the national press corps describe themselves as &#8220;conservative&#8221; in a population that includes reporters, editors and producers from major television and radio networks, daily newspapers, news wires and online sources. </p>
<p>Those who consider themselves &#8220;very conservative&#8221; amount to just 2 percent, according to a wide-ranging survey of 585 journalists and news executives released yesterday by the Project for Excellence in Journalism.&#8221; </i></p>
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		<title>By: scat</title>
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		<dc:creator>scat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are the one mak;ing the assertion of wide-spread liberal bias.  It is up to you to prove it, not for the rest of the world to disprove it.&lt;br&gt;You can beleive the earth is flat and the moon is made of green cheese if you want to, but don&#039;t ask everyone else to prove you wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are the one mak;ing the assertion of wide-spread liberal bias.  It is up to you to prove it, not for the rest of the world to disprove it.<br />You can beleive the earth is flat and the moon is made of green cheese if you want to, but don&#39;t ask everyone else to prove you wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: scat</title>
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		<dc:creator>scat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dobbs told Jon Stewart that he is admittedly a &quot;commentator&quot;, not a news man and CNN is more interested in doing straight news.&lt;br&gt;As for the rest of it, I would expect nothing different from Pew-- it&#039;s a conservative think tank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dobbs told Jon Stewart that he is admittedly a &#8220;commentator&#8221;, not a news man and CNN is more interested in doing straight news.<br />As for the rest of it, I would expect nothing different from Pew&#8211; it&#39;s a conservative think tank.</p>
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		<title>By: KentuckyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>KentuckyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My assertion is not that mainstream media doesn&#039;t report negative commentaries. My assertion is that mainstream LIBERAL media often hides, spins, or neglects to report negative news and commentaries. And they spin certain stories in favorable terms (Obama) and others in negative terms (Palin). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A prime example is the ACORN scandel and the Van Jones fiasco.  They didn&#039;t report on them for a couple of days. When they did, they spun them in order to manipulate the public into believing that they really were not that big of a deal.  They also left out key facts, thus, leaving the public unaware of some very important things.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But no, they do not always neglect to report negative commentaries. How can they? Their bias would be too obvious.  And they can&#039;t completely ignore news that is being covered on a multitude of other news outlets.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I did see a negative story tonight from Katie Couric on Obama&#039;s 49% approval rating.  Actually watched her tonight, and she was fairly bearable, maybe because most of the stories tonight were not political.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How do I know what CNN or MSNBC reported on? Well, it wasn&#039;t too difficult to find out.  I went to their websites to search for it, and I also googled it. They did not cover it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No, the neglect by CNN and NBC to cover this story is not the &quot;basis&quot; of my assertion.  It&#039;s an EXAMPLE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My claims are actually very strong and are backed by statistical evidence and reputable studies..  Do an internet search on &quot;media bias&quot; or &quot;liberal media bias.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My assertion is not that mainstream media doesn&#39;t report negative commentaries. My assertion is that mainstream LIBERAL media often hides, spins, or neglects to report negative news and commentaries. And they spin certain stories in favorable terms (Obama) and others in negative terms (Palin). </p>
<p>A prime example is the ACORN scandel and the Van Jones fiasco.  They didn&#39;t report on them for a couple of days. When they did, they spun them in order to manipulate the public into believing that they really were not that big of a deal.  They also left out key facts, thus, leaving the public unaware of some very important things.</p>
<p>But no, they do not always neglect to report negative commentaries. How can they? Their bias would be too obvious.  And they can&#39;t completely ignore news that is being covered on a multitude of other news outlets.</p>
<p>But I did see a negative story tonight from Katie Couric on Obama&#39;s 49% approval rating.  Actually watched her tonight, and she was fairly bearable, maybe because most of the stories tonight were not political.   </p>
<p>How do I know what CNN or MSNBC reported on? Well, it wasn&#39;t too difficult to find out.  I went to their websites to search for it, and I also googled it. They did not cover it.</p>
<p>No, the neglect by CNN and NBC to cover this story is not the &#8220;basis&#8221; of my assertion.  It&#39;s an EXAMPLE.</p>
<p>My claims are actually very strong and are backed by statistical evidence and reputable studies..  Do an internet search on &#8220;media bias&#8221; or &#8220;liberal media bias.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: KentuckyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>KentuckyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;-- Quotes from the PewCenter&#039;s &quot;State of the Media 2009.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2009/chapter%2520p&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2009/chapter%20p&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) &quot;Cable news provided the most limited range of coverage in 2008. Roughly two-thirds of the cable prime-time programming studied (65%) was devoted to the election—almost twice as much as the media over all. And within the cable universe, MSNBC lived up to its “Place for Politics” slogan by devoting 80% of its primetime air on the election, far more than CNN (62%) and the Fox News Channel (57%).&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) &quot;The ideological leanings of the cable hosts not only affected what they said about the candidates but what aspects of the campaign they talked about. On the Fox News programs hosted by conservatives Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity, for example, Barack Obama’s connection to Reverend Jeremiah Wright was the top campaign storyline of the year. On the MSNBC shows hosted by liberals Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, by contrast, a favored subject (No. 2 after the economy) was John McCain’s attacks on Obama.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) &quot;In its campaign coverage, the press was&lt;br&gt;more reactive and passive and less of an&lt;br&gt;enterprising investigator of the candidates&lt;br&gt;than it once was. In 1992, the Washington&lt;br&gt;Post produced 13 major profiles examining&lt;br&gt;the past record and biography of the eventual&lt;br&gt;winner of the race.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;-- Former CNN Correspondent Chris Plante on Lou Dobb&#039;s exit from CNN:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wj7bCnE8WA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wj7bCnE8WA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) On Dobb&#039;s exit: &quot;His opinions are out of lockstep with the rest of the mainstream news media.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) Dobbs is &quot;the last conservative voice on the channel,&quot; who &quot;no longer fit in.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;The Interview:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DOBBS: A cable news network should be fair always.... my viewers, my audience, expect to come at them with the unvarnished reality and the truth irrespective of how the chips fall in the political spectrum.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;KURTZ: So was this television divorce inevitable and what does it mean for Dobbs and for CNN?.... Chris Plante, many liberals cheering Dobbs&#039; sudden exit. A &quot;New York Times&quot; editorial called him close to a right wing ranter who distorts the facts. Is the media being fair to Lou Dobbs?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PLANTE: Well, of course not. Well the reason Lou Dobbs was in trouble is not because he has opinions, it&#039;s because of what his opinions were and his opinions are out of lockstep with the rest of the mainstream news media. &quot;The New York Times&quot; in their -- pretty much every report also say that he&#039;s a crusader against immigrants, or immigration and that&#039;s false. It&#039;s a misrepresentation and it speaks to their point of view. And maybe &quot;The New York Times&quot; should be taking a look at itself rather than Lou Dobbs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PLANTE: In Washington, we&#039;ve got a chief White House correspondent for CBS News Chip Reid who was a former employee on Capitol Hill of Joe Biden. We&#039;ve got a senior White House correspondent of NBC News who was a former staffer for Tom Harkin.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;KURTZ: Let&#039;s stick to CNN.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PLANTE: We have a senior Washington correspondent for ABC News who is a Clinton administration official. David Axelrod is a former &quot;Chicago Tribute&quot; reporter. We&#039;ve got Jay Carney leaving his job at &quot;Time&quot; magazine to go to work for this administration. Look, the pattern is clear, everybody knows it except you guys, you know?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;KURTZ: What does it is say about CNN? None of those people work at CNN.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PLANTE: It&#039;s the news media as an industry and as a company, the last conservative voice on the channel is gone. They had Glenn Beck, he&#039;s gone. They had him, now he&#039;s gone. Lou Dobbs is gone.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PLANTE: I was having a conversation with a friend of mine in Washington, a longtime Washington journalist type and we were talking about a reporter that we both know who is very liberal. And my friend said, yes but I think that he does a great job of hiding it. The idea is not to have a room full of people who are hiding their political beliefs and failing, by the way. Lou Dobbs wore it on his sleeve and he at least put it out there. You knew where he stood unlike others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8211; Quotes from the PewCenter&#39;s &#8220;State of the Media 2009.</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2009/chapter%2520p" rel="nofollow">http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2009/chapter%20p</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>1) &#8220;Cable news provided the most limited range of coverage in 2008. Roughly two-thirds of the cable prime-time programming studied (65%) was devoted to the election—almost twice as much as the media over all. And within the cable universe, MSNBC lived up to its “Place for Politics” slogan by devoting 80% of its primetime air on the election, far more than CNN (62%) and the Fox News Channel (57%).&#8221;</p>
<p>2) &#8220;The ideological leanings of the cable hosts not only affected what they said about the candidates but what aspects of the campaign they talked about. On the Fox News programs hosted by conservatives Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity, for example, Barack Obama’s connection to Reverend Jeremiah Wright was the top campaign storyline of the year. On the MSNBC shows hosted by liberals Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, by contrast, a favored subject (No. 2 after the economy) was John McCain’s attacks on Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>3) &#8220;In its campaign coverage, the press was<br />more reactive and passive and less of an<br />enterprising investigator of the candidates<br />than it once was. In 1992, the Washington<br />Post produced 13 major profiles examining<br />the past record and biography of the eventual<br />winner of the race.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>&#8211; Former CNN Correspondent Chris Plante on Lou Dobb&#39;s exit from CNN:</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wj7bCnE8WA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wj7bCnE8WA</a></p>
<p>1) On Dobb&#39;s exit: &#8220;His opinions are out of lockstep with the rest of the mainstream news media.&#8221;</p>
<p>2) Dobbs is &#8220;the last conservative voice on the channel,&#8221; who &#8220;no longer fit in.&#8221;</p>
<p><b><u>The Interview:</u></b></p>
<p>DOBBS: A cable news network should be fair always&#8230;. my viewers, my audience, expect to come at them with the unvarnished reality and the truth irrespective of how the chips fall in the political spectrum.</p>
<p>KURTZ: So was this television divorce inevitable and what does it mean for Dobbs and for CNN?&#8230;. Chris Plante, many liberals cheering Dobbs&#39; sudden exit. A &#8220;New York Times&#8221; editorial called him close to a right wing ranter who distorts the facts. Is the media being fair to Lou Dobbs?</p>
<p>PLANTE: Well, of course not. Well the reason Lou Dobbs was in trouble is not because he has opinions, it&#39;s because of what his opinions were and his opinions are out of lockstep with the rest of the mainstream news media. &#8220;The New York Times&#8221; in their &#8212; pretty much every report also say that he&#39;s a crusader against immigrants, or immigration and that&#39;s false. It&#39;s a misrepresentation and it speaks to their point of view. And maybe &#8220;The New York Times&#8221; should be taking a look at itself rather than Lou Dobbs.</p>
<p>PLANTE: In Washington, we&#39;ve got a chief White House correspondent for CBS News Chip Reid who was a former employee on Capitol Hill of Joe Biden. We&#39;ve got a senior White House correspondent of NBC News who was a former staffer for Tom Harkin.</p>
<p>KURTZ: Let&#39;s stick to CNN.</p>
<p>PLANTE: We have a senior Washington correspondent for ABC News who is a Clinton administration official. David Axelrod is a former &#8220;Chicago Tribute&#8221; reporter. We&#39;ve got Jay Carney leaving his job at &#8220;Time&#8221; magazine to go to work for this administration. Look, the pattern is clear, everybody knows it except you guys, you know?</p>
<p>KURTZ: What does it is say about CNN? None of those people work at CNN.</p>
<p>PLANTE: It&#39;s the news media as an industry and as a company, the last conservative voice on the channel is gone. They had Glenn Beck, he&#39;s gone. They had him, now he&#39;s gone. Lou Dobbs is gone.</p>
<p>PLANTE: I was having a conversation with a friend of mine in Washington, a longtime Washington journalist type and we were talking about a reporter that we both know who is very liberal. And my friend said, yes but I think that he does a great job of hiding it. The idea is not to have a room full of people who are hiding their political beliefs and failing, by the way. Lou Dobbs wore it on his sleeve and he at least put it out there. You knew where he stood unlike others.</p>
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		<title>By: scat</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I understand what you are saying, it is that CNN and NBC did not cover Dr. Healy&#039;s cooments, although most other news outlets did. And that is the basis for your assertion that the main stream media does not report negative commentaries against the government. &lt;br&gt;First, you admit you do not watch CNN and NBC so how do you know who they interviewed or not. I have seen a variety of networks interview a lot of different people who disagreed with the conclusions being drawn about this study. I know I saw a part of her comments although I do not recall which station. I can guarantee that it would nto have been Fox. &lt;br&gt;Your claims of maid stream media cover-up are just plain weak. You just can&#039;t stretch reality to fit an idealogy and expect it to hold up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I understand what you are saying, it is that CNN and NBC did not cover Dr. Healy&#39;s cooments, although most other news outlets did. And that is the basis for your assertion that the main stream media does not report negative commentaries against the government. <br />First, you admit you do not watch CNN and NBC so how do you know who they interviewed or not. I have seen a variety of networks interview a lot of different people who disagreed with the conclusions being drawn about this study. I know I saw a part of her comments although I do not recall which station. I can guarantee that it would nto have been Fox. <br />Your claims of maid stream media cover-up are just plain weak. You just can&#39;t stretch reality to fit an idealogy and expect it to hold up</p>
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		<title>By: KentuckyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>KentuckyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t need to watch their stations. I read news at their websites every single day, several times a day.  I used to watch them. I stopped watching after the election (or maybe some time before).  The bias was stifling, sickening, and I simply couldn&#039;t stomach it anymore. I felt like I was watching Obama campaign members, not the news.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When I said CNN and MSNBC failed to report a story, I was referring to the ex-NIH Chief story that was reported today. You were referring to the mammogram story in general. When I said, &quot;Yes, it&#039;s been everywhere,&quot; that was a reply to your comments about the mammogram story, not the ex-NIH Chief story.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The particular ex-NIH Chief story was reported today by the Associated Press, and yet, NBC (MSNBC) and CNN failed to even mention it.  Both ABC News and CBS News covered it, though.  It  was also reported by several major newspapers and journals, including the WA Times, the Star-Tribune, and even The NY Times.  In addition, many internet news sources (AOL News, Yahoo, Comcast, etc) and local news stations reported on it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s pretty &quot;fishy&quot; that the only major news networks that did not report on it were NBC (MSNBC) and CNN,  the two most liberal mainstream media networks.  Pretty telling, if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t need to watch their stations. I read news at their websites every single day, several times a day.  I used to watch them. I stopped watching after the election (or maybe some time before).  The bias was stifling, sickening, and I simply couldn&#39;t stomach it anymore. I felt like I was watching Obama campaign members, not the news.  </p>
<p>When I said CNN and MSNBC failed to report a story, I was referring to the ex-NIH Chief story that was reported today. You were referring to the mammogram story in general. When I said, &#8220;Yes, it&#39;s been everywhere,&#8221; that was a reply to your comments about the mammogram story, not the ex-NIH Chief story.  </p>
<p>The particular ex-NIH Chief story was reported today by the Associated Press, and yet, NBC (MSNBC) and CNN failed to even mention it.  Both ABC News and CBS News covered it, though.  It  was also reported by several major newspapers and journals, including the WA Times, the Star-Tribune, and even The NY Times.  In addition, many internet news sources (AOL News, Yahoo, Comcast, etc) and local news stations reported on it.  </p>
<p>It&#39;s pretty &#8220;fishy&#8221; that the only major news networks that did not report on it were NBC (MSNBC) and CNN,  the two most liberal mainstream media networks.  Pretty telling, if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: scat</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are fully aware of the story being extensively reported on CNN and MSNBC, why carry on about it not being reported on those networks?  There is a word for that.&lt;br&gt;If you in fact watched those networks or checked the websites, you would learn the truth. Both have in fact been reporting actual negative stories concerning government actionThey have been critical of Geithner, Holder, and President Obama as well as others..  But of course you wouldn&#039;t know that since you don&#039;t watch those stations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are fully aware of the story being extensively reported on CNN and MSNBC, why carry on about it not being reported on those networks?  There is a word for that.<br />If you in fact watched those networks or checked the websites, you would learn the truth. Both have in fact been reporting actual negative stories concerning government actionThey have been critical of Geithner, Holder, and President Obama as well as others..  But of course you wouldn&#39;t know that since you don&#39;t watch those stations.</p>
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		<title>By: KentuckyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>KentuckyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s been all over MSNBC and CNN. I&#039;m fully aware of that. I check news at their websites several times a day.  But, this particular comment had not been reported by them the last I checked, and my suspicious is that it&#039;s because it&#039;s in opposition to what the govt. is saying.  MSNBC and CNN are only going to cover so much negative things on govt.  Because their journalists and reporters are liberal Democratic Obama-supporters, they are not about to speak too negatively on govt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A story or two here or there, when it can&#039;t be avoided because it&#039;s all over the news at other outlets, is all they&#039;ll offer.  But as for the mammogram recommendations, even liberal women are upset about them because it&#039;s personal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#39;s been all over MSNBC and CNN. I&#39;m fully aware of that. I check news at their websites several times a day.  But, this particular comment had not been reported by them the last I checked, and my suspicious is that it&#39;s because it&#39;s in opposition to what the govt. is saying.  MSNBC and CNN are only going to cover so much negative things on govt.  Because their journalists and reporters are liberal Democratic Obama-supporters, they are not about to speak too negatively on govt.</p>
<p>A story or two here or there, when it can&#39;t be avoided because it&#39;s all over the news at other outlets, is all they&#39;ll offer.  But as for the mammogram recommendations, even liberal women are upset about them because it&#39;s personal.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is that this story has been all over the newscasts on CNN and MSNBC. You would know this if you actually tuned in. They have had interviews with the head of the American Cancer Society, the Susan G. Koman foundaiton, many renowned medical people. If anytthing it has been over-reported on thses stations. Some of the reporting has been informative talking about what the study actually was about.  Tune in sometime, you might be happy to hear what they have to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is that this story has been all over the newscasts on CNN and MSNBC. You would know this if you actually tuned in. They have had interviews with the head of the American Cancer Society, the Susan G. Koman foundaiton, many renowned medical people. If anytthing it has been over-reported on thses stations. Some of the reporting has been informative talking about what the study actually was about.  Tune in sometime, you might be happy to hear what they have to offer.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am &quot;suspicious&quot; of anything I hear that sounds bizarre until I get a chance to investigate further and obtain information as opposed to gossip and rumor. I am even more skeptical of people&#039;s speculation when they don&#039;t have all the facts.&lt;br&gt;IN fact this panel was not studying cost effectiveness although others who have loooked at the report have applied some numbers to do just that. The point of the study was to determine relative effectiveness of early detection methods. If I were comcerned about the cost aspect I would be much more nervous about the fact that there were at least three insurance represntatives on thiis panel.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;In fact they did not say that women under 50 should not have mammograms. They found that mammograms in women under 50 were less significant in detecting cancer. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it is irresponsible to spread wildly scary speculation about what this means and what will occur in the future as a result. I am glad to hear representatives of the American Cancer Society as well as members of the medical community discuss the actual facts of the study. They have all stated that they do not intend to change their recommnedations. I am also happy that women in particular  have taken such a vocal interest in it.There was a time when it was considered unseemly to discuss breast cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am &#8220;suspicious&#8221; of anything I hear that sounds bizarre until I get a chance to investigate further and obtain information as opposed to gossip and rumor. I am even more skeptical of people&#39;s speculation when they don&#39;t have all the facts.<br />IN fact this panel was not studying cost effectiveness although others who have loooked at the report have applied some numbers to do just that. The point of the study was to determine relative effectiveness of early detection methods. If I were comcerned about the cost aspect I would be much more nervous about the fact that there were at least three insurance represntatives on thiis panel.</p>
<p>In fact they did not say that women under 50 should not have mammograms. They found that mammograms in women under 50 were less significant in detecting cancer. </p>
<p>I think it is irresponsible to spread wildly scary speculation about what this means and what will occur in the future as a result. I am glad to hear representatives of the American Cancer Society as well as members of the medical community discuss the actual facts of the study. They have all stated that they do not intend to change their recommnedations. I am also happy that women in particular  have taken such a vocal interest in it.There was a time when it was considered unseemly to discuss breast cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: KentuckyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>KentuckyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the link you gave. Sigh.  I hope the public is informed in the upcoming days and moths about the bill and it&#039;s contents!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The other day, there was an article on how govt has really mismanaged the Swine Flu shots.  Then there was Cash for Clunkers where the auto dealers weren&#039;t getting their reimbursements, and only after a day or 2, the program went through all the money allocated for it, until of course govt. gave more money to it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There was an Associate Press article on Friday &quot;Gripes aboout swine flu vaccine abound.&quot;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=9130065&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=9...&lt;/a&gt;  It was a very lengthly analysis of all the problems with this national program, and it wasn&#039;t reported by Limbaugh, Beck, or Fox News.  It was reported by the Associated Press.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here are a few things said:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Health officials have been terrible at predicting when and how much vaccine would be available.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Vaccine shipments have been inexplicably lopsided.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Health officials have stressed that people... should go to the head of the line, but they haven&#039;t tried to make sure that acutally happened.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Despite pledges that they would be transparent... some officials have refused to disclose where all the doses are going, and they have held back on public service announcements telling people who should be coming in for shots.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;...complaints have been mounting, with lawmakers this week holding hearings in Washington and elsewhere, pressing for explanation.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;People are frustrated everywhere....&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;...layers of misinformation and miscommunication.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;It is not working right at all.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is one program, much smaller than providing nation-wide health care coverage.  This is a prime exampled of what we can expect.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are completely naive and in denial if we think that govt. (esp. this very inexperienced administration) is going to run a highly effective, timely, fair, and well-managed health insurance program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the link you gave. Sigh.  I hope the public is informed in the upcoming days and moths about the bill and it&#39;s contents!  </p>
<p>The other day, there was an article on how govt has really mismanaged the Swine Flu shots.  Then there was Cash for Clunkers where the auto dealers weren&#39;t getting their reimbursements, and only after a day or 2, the program went through all the money allocated for it, until of course govt. gave more money to it.  </p>
<p>There was an Associate Press article on Friday &#8220;Gripes aboout swine flu vaccine abound.&#8221;  <a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=9130065" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=9.." rel="nofollow">http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=9..</a>.  It was a very lengthly analysis of all the problems with this national program, and it wasn&#39;t reported by Limbaugh, Beck, or Fox News.  It was reported by the Associated Press.  </p>
<p>Here are a few things said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Health officials have been terrible at predicting when and how much vaccine would be available.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Vaccine shipments have been inexplicably lopsided.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Health officials have stressed that people&#8230; should go to the head of the line, but they haven&#39;t tried to make sure that acutally happened.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Despite pledges that they would be transparent&#8230; some officials have refused to disclose where all the doses are going, and they have held back on public service announcements telling people who should be coming in for shots.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;complaints have been mounting, with lawmakers this week holding hearings in Washington and elsewhere, pressing for explanation.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;People are frustrated everywhere&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;layers of misinformation and miscommunication.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It is not working right at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is one program, much smaller than providing nation-wide health care coverage.  This is a prime exampled of what we can expect.</p>
<p>We are completely naive and in denial if we think that govt. (esp. this very inexperienced administration) is going to run a highly effective, timely, fair, and well-managed health insurance program.</p>
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		<title>By: KentuckyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>KentuckyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I share your concern completely.  In fact, this one was probably my biggest concern when Obama was elected.  Although I have many other concerns about him (his socialistic ideas, cap-and-trade, his pro-abortion stance, his lack of experience, and the media&#039;s &quot;free pass&quot; treatment of him... oh, and the trillion dollar stimulus along with the rising deficit), I am very anxious/concerned about the Democrat&#039;s plans to take-over the American health care system.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It will give government tremendous power in our lives!  And when cost is the bottom line for government, there will without a doubt be rationing, although they will not call it that nor will they be truthful about it.  But it will come in subtle ways. New &quot;guidelines&quot; that will deny things like mammograms to women under 50.  Or perhaps care not being given to someone because they are obese. Think of all the recent articles on obesity that talk about how costly medical care is for the obese.  Care might be denied because someone is disabled.  Or elderly.  Or a smoker.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not only this, but what kind of care are we going to receive? Considering that there already is a shortage of nurses and doctors, to suddenly open the floodgates of coverage to many millions more people, this shortage will pale in comparison to how it will be if the govt. health care passes.  I do believe that all people need affordable access to health care, but this govt. plan fails to address many important things. Instead, it&#039;s like putting a band-aid on top of a growing sore.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But it&#039;s much worse than a bandaid because it&#039;s the government, and they can use their power of lawmaking to force us to do things. In fact, under the Pelosi bill, we will be fined or imprisoned if we do not have health care.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, yes, private insurance will be obliterated.  There is no way it will be able to survive in the face of govt. care.  It&#039;s like a huge cruise ship vs. a rowboat.  Businesses will exchange private coverage for their employees for govt. coverage because it will be cheaper. Their employees will have no choice in the matter.  Also, Reid&#039;s Senate bill plans on raising taxes on health insurance companies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I could go on and on, but we must stay informed on these bills.  There are many people in our nation who are uninformed or misinformed, or they just simply refuse to believe the truth of what these bills will do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do not understand why anyone would willingly want more government control over their lives.  Or why they would be so loyal to their party or candidate (Obama), that they accept every single thing said by him or the party as truth or as something good for them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I will check out the link you provided.  I get alot of my information from sources like HotAir, Townhall, Newsbusters, Fox News, and then emails I receive from AFA (Amer. Family Assoc.) and FRC (Family Research Council). You should check out some of these sources if you have the time and don&#039;t already go to them.  God for all these news and commentary sources! If it were not for &quot;watchdogs&quot; like these, we&#039;d only have liberal news sources and we&#039;d all be duped and manipulated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I really, really hope that in 2010, there is a clear referendum on Obama.  It looks like it&#039;s very possible. Hopefully, many of these health care supporters (esp. the ones who ignore the voices of their constituents) are voted out of office, including Reid. They refuse to listen to us.  The majority of people against the bills and do not want to lose their current health plans.  They dismissed people at the townhall meetings, calling them things like &quot;manufactured astroturf,&quot; even though across the nation, there were many, many townhalls filled with concerned citizens.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for reading the bill, Reid wouldn&#039;t even put it online at first. I&#039;m sure it was only because of Republicans that it&#039;s now online. However, you won&#039;t find it at CNN or MSNBC.  Of course not.  But Fox News has a link to it.  Who has time to read 2000+ pages filled with garbly govt. language though? Not even our own senators read it!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People call Fox News bias, but providing news and sources that liberal media simply won&#039;t provide for us is not bias. Here&#039;s a link to the bill: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/111909_ReidBill.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/111909_Reid...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s one big ugly mess of regulations, rules, and government-speak.  Let&#039;s pray that it fails!  And maybe then some real reform can take place that will help those w/o health insurance while allowing our nation to be the free people that our Constitution wants us to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share your concern completely.  In fact, this one was probably my biggest concern when Obama was elected.  Although I have many other concerns about him (his socialistic ideas, cap-and-trade, his pro-abortion stance, his lack of experience, and the media&#39;s &#8220;free pass&#8221; treatment of him&#8230; oh, and the trillion dollar stimulus along with the rising deficit), I am very anxious/concerned about the Democrat&#39;s plans to take-over the American health care system.</p>
<p>It will give government tremendous power in our lives!  And when cost is the bottom line for government, there will without a doubt be rationing, although they will not call it that nor will they be truthful about it.  But it will come in subtle ways. New &#8220;guidelines&#8221; that will deny things like mammograms to women under 50.  Or perhaps care not being given to someone because they are obese. Think of all the recent articles on obesity that talk about how costly medical care is for the obese.  Care might be denied because someone is disabled.  Or elderly.  Or a smoker.</p>
<p>Not only this, but what kind of care are we going to receive? Considering that there already is a shortage of nurses and doctors, to suddenly open the floodgates of coverage to many millions more people, this shortage will pale in comparison to how it will be if the govt. health care passes.  I do believe that all people need affordable access to health care, but this govt. plan fails to address many important things. Instead, it&#39;s like putting a band-aid on top of a growing sore.  </p>
<p>But it&#39;s much worse than a bandaid because it&#39;s the government, and they can use their power of lawmaking to force us to do things. In fact, under the Pelosi bill, we will be fined or imprisoned if we do not have health care.  </p>
<p>And, yes, private insurance will be obliterated.  There is no way it will be able to survive in the face of govt. care.  It&#39;s like a huge cruise ship vs. a rowboat.  Businesses will exchange private coverage for their employees for govt. coverage because it will be cheaper. Their employees will have no choice in the matter.  Also, Reid&#39;s Senate bill plans on raising taxes on health insurance companies.</p>
<p>I could go on and on, but we must stay informed on these bills.  There are many people in our nation who are uninformed or misinformed, or they just simply refuse to believe the truth of what these bills will do.</p>
<p>I do not understand why anyone would willingly want more government control over their lives.  Or why they would be so loyal to their party or candidate (Obama), that they accept every single thing said by him or the party as truth or as something good for them.</p>
<p>I will check out the link you provided.  I get alot of my information from sources like HotAir, Townhall, Newsbusters, Fox News, and then emails I receive from AFA (Amer. Family Assoc.) and FRC (Family Research Council). You should check out some of these sources if you have the time and don&#39;t already go to them.  God for all these news and commentary sources! If it were not for &#8220;watchdogs&#8221; like these, we&#39;d only have liberal news sources and we&#39;d all be duped and manipulated.</p>
<p>I really, really hope that in 2010, there is a clear referendum on Obama.  It looks like it&#39;s very possible. Hopefully, many of these health care supporters (esp. the ones who ignore the voices of their constituents) are voted out of office, including Reid. They refuse to listen to us.  The majority of people against the bills and do not want to lose their current health plans.  They dismissed people at the townhall meetings, calling them things like &#8220;manufactured astroturf,&#8221; even though across the nation, there were many, many townhalls filled with concerned citizens.</p>
<p>As for reading the bill, Reid wouldn&#39;t even put it online at first. I&#39;m sure it was only because of Republicans that it&#39;s now online. However, you won&#39;t find it at CNN or MSNBC.  Of course not.  But Fox News has a link to it.  Who has time to read 2000+ pages filled with garbly govt. language though? Not even our own senators read it!</p>
<p>People call Fox News bias, but providing news and sources that liberal media simply won&#39;t provide for us is not bias. Here&#39;s a link to the bill: <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/111909_ReidBill.pdf" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/111909_Reid.." rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/111909_Reid..</a>.</p>
<p>It&#39;s one big ugly mess of regulations, rules, and government-speak.  Let&#39;s pray that it fails!  And maybe then some real reform can take place that will help those w/o health insurance while allowing our nation to be the free people that our Constitution wants us to be.</p>
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