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Continuing the Deadly Viper Conversation: Illuminating Gender Blind Spots

by Ken Fong 11-23-2009

In response to Kathy Khang’s recent blog post, “Unseen Privilege: The Overlooked Gender Dimension of the ‘Deadly Viper’ Conversation,” I want to say as one of the three men (and all of us Asian Americans) involved in bringing the “Deadly Viper” controversy to the attention of the publishers and authors, I want people to know how clear-minded, unflinching, and resolute Kathy and the other two AsiAm female leaders (Nikki Toyama-Szeto and Helen Lee) were and continue to be in this ongoing effort to sensitize the Body to less respected or valued parts.

To those who would cite scripture to insist that God would not have wanted any women to contribute their strengths, gifts, wisdom, and experience to this cause, I can only say that I believe that our efforts would have suffered in so many ways if these three Christian colleagues had not been allowed to weigh in with us men.

When I first got involved with the Deadly Viper issue, I zeroed in on the co-opted stereotypic Asian images, most of which were of Asian males. But I am embarrassed to admit that I really didn’t catch the denigration of women aspects when I first procured a copy of the book and began working through the content. However, because I have long believed that a huge part of Christ’s redemptive work is to have the powerless teach the powerful, I was moved by the outcry of some Christian sisters and then started to notice how males-only many of the character lessons were. I too began to be upset about that and joined the chorus of those who wanted to confront the authors and publishers about this, too.

But in order not to overwhelm them, we all agreed to keep the focus on the misuse of images. I believe that that was the right approach and the response received from Zondervan seems to bear that out. However, as they regroup soon with the authors to re-present the content, it’s now appropriate to work with them to correct this blind spot in the content.

No doubt there are folks out there who think there’s nothing wrong with having stuff that is exclusively aimed at one gender or the other. However, given the history of excluding women from leadership and given the importance of pursuing solid Christian character among ALL Christian leaders, I believe it is paramount that a book about that topic should not in any way, shape, or form exclude female Christian leaders from the conversation. To do so, especially if the original target audience was males, is only to perpetuate that blind spot which continues to cause you pain. Kathy’s  post, something that I doubt I could do or do nearly as well, serves to make my whole point to those who are willing to hear it.

portrait-ken-fongKen Fong is the Senior Pastor of Evergreen Baptist Church of Los Angeles.

Categories: Books, Diversity, Gender, Race
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  • melodyhanson
    Ken, Thank you for this. Those that say "move on" don't even begin to understand that what the AA leaders/DV authors are discussing and the changes promised at Zondervan, are the beginning of a journey toward healing and forgiveness, and a stronger multi-ethnic Church. Again, thank you for speaking up for the female experience in the church.
  • momhelen
    Thanks, Ken, for being willing to stick your neck out in support of your sisters. And it's unfortunate that the timing of your post was such that it appeared you were unnecessarily adding fuel to the fire when in fact you were just originally commenting on and validating Kathy's blog entry. Hopefully that won't ultimately diminish the value of your message and the example you are setting for other Christian male leaders.
  • I second the thoughts. Move on.
  • katiebugk
    Ken, thanks for your honesty and continued care about this matter. I think it is important that everyone realizes that to forgive, forget and move on would be a massive mistake. Major lessons need to be learned and continue to be discussed on this issue, and as your post suggests, there are many more facets to this whole mishap than it appeared at first blush. If these occurrences are still cropping up in 2009, forgetting is the last thing we should do.
  • kenfong
    In my defense, I wrote this as a supportive comment last week to Kathy's post and was asked by the Sojourner page editor if it would be okay to post this today in support of this issue. If you check, you will see that what prompted my comment was the response by someone who basically was saying that this was a non-issue because the Bible doesn't allow women to lead. I can understand your sentiments if you didn't know the original context. At any rate, the reconciliation process with the authors of DV is still in process--it is far from over. We are trying to reach out to them. IMHO there is still much to learn from each other and all of this.
  • NC77
    Amen. The best part of forgiving in Christ and seeing the heartfelt true repentence of the forgiven one is the ability to forget, move on, and grow in the Christ like experience.
  • bigdubby
    I appreciate the conversation that has been going on with this book and the problems with it. But I believe it is time to move on. The publisher and both authors gave heart felt apologies and are seemingly working their very hardest to bring closure to this issue. Asian culture in terms of how it was portrayed was the main issue, in general. Khang's concern is a valid point that was already made. I don't see the point of this article except to rehash, and throw in one's "two cents".

    Kathy's point was to show us a blind spot to how women were portrayed (or not portrayed) in deadly vipers. Pastor Fong's article seems to say: my point is to highlight someone's else's point that will ultimately highlight my point about our blindspots.

    I don't mean to be critical but isn't it time to move on? Zondervan has. The authors have. We should forgive, offer grace and input into the repackaged content but i truly think that we have now moved over the line in helpful dialogue about deadly vipers. Perhaps one of the most deadly vipers is instead of seeing how God is using this to grow a lot of people (and ideas) we constantly speak up and say "this also was wrong with it, this was also wrong with it, you should read this post because they highlight something else wrong, you read that post because it will highlight another area that i see is wrong".

    Again, i appreciate the fact that the Asian community spoke up and were heard to their concerns. That is a wonderful thing. But now i believe it is time for all of us who had concerns and issues with Deadly Vipers to show our maturity, grace, love, and Christ-likeness by moving on.
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