http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/ A Blog by Jim Wallis and Friends Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:28:01 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-103128 The Belhar Confession: Holding Together Jesus and Justice « Reconcilers with Chris Rice Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:01:28 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-103128 [...] that a local paper’s headline said of my presence “Hope Speaker Encourages Inclusion.”  As I’ve written elsewhere I find “inclusion” insufficient next to the far richer biblical language of “new creation,” [...] [...] that a local paper’s headline said of my presence “Hope Speaker Encourages Inclusion.”  As I’ve written elsewhere I find “inclusion” insufficient next to the far richer biblical language of “new creation,” [...]

]]> http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-102672 Chris Rice on Reconciliation « Journey Toward Shalom Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:42:25 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-102672 [...] PDRTJS_settings_1104637_post_243 = { "id" : "1104637", "unique_id" : "wp-post-243", "title" : "Chris+Rice+on+Reconciliation+", "item_id" : "_post_243", "permalink" : "http%3A%2F%2Fjkooyman.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F01%2F30%2Fchris-rice-on-reconciliation%2F" } Chris Rice shares some of his thoughts on racial reconciliation–which he shared at last year’s CCDA conference in Cincinnati– and where its going and where it should be going on the God’s Politics (aka Sojourners) blog at the following link: Beyond ‘Diversity’: New Creation and a Mestizo Vision – Chris Rice – God’s Pol.... [...] [...] PDRTJS_settings_1104637_post_243 = { "id" : "1104637", "unique_id" : "wp-post-243", "title" : "Chris+Rice+on+Reconciliation+", "item_id" : "_post_243", "permalink" : "http%3A%2F%2Fjkooyman.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F01%2F30%2Fchris-rice-on-reconciliation%2F" } Chris Rice shares some of his thoughts on racial reconciliation–which he shared at last year’s CCDA conference in Cincinnati– and where its going and where it should be going on the God’s Politics (aka Sojourners) blog at the following link: Beyond ‘Diversity’: New Creation and a Mestizo Vision – Chris Rice – God’s Pol…. [...]

]]> http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-111235 Jedidiah Abdul Muhib Palosaari Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:11:01 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-111235 I agree with this, but it seems a bit out-of-date. I attended Obama's college, Occidental, from 89-93. They were big on the word multicultural. Our IV chapter was not. (At 10% of the student body, we were by far the largest Christian concern going on the campus.) Multicultural seemed to be about, "Hey, I'm special, look at me." And we, I, affirm that that is important. We *are* all special, and deserve to be looked at. But as the author of this article calls for, it is not enough. In IV we used to talk about being *transcultural*, and that this was the call of the Gospel. To say, Yes, I am special, but now I want to go into your culture, and understand you, and empathize with your experience, and contextualize myself into your life, just as I hope you do in mine. But of course, the words of Jesus are not, "Do unto others so that they will do unto you," but rather, "Do unto others as you would have them do." Whether or not my brother chooses to contextualize transculturally into my world, my goal is to do that into his. I agree with this, but it seems a bit out-of-date. I attended Obama's college, Occidental, from 89-93. They were big on the word multicultural. Our IV chapter was not. (At 10% of the student body, we were by far the largest Christian concern going on the campus.) Multicultural seemed to be about, “Hey, I'm special, look at me.” And we, I, affirm that that is important. We *are* all special, and deserve to be looked at. But as the author of this article calls for, it is not enough. In IV we used to talk about being *transcultural*, and that this was the call of the Gospel. To say, Yes, I am special, but now I want to go into your culture, and understand you, and empathize with your experience, and contextualize myself into your life, just as I hope you do in mine. But of course, the words of Jesus are not, “Do unto others so that they will do unto you,” but rather, “Do unto others as you would have them do.” Whether or not my brother chooses to contextualize transculturally into my world, my goal is to do that into his.

]]> http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-99971 Jedidiah Abdul Muhib Palosaari Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:11:01 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-99971 I agree with this, but it seems a bit out-of-date. I attended Obama's college, Occidental, from 89-93. They were big on the word multicultural. Our IV chapter was not. (At 10% of the student body, we were by far the largest Christian concern going on the campus.) Multicultural seemed to be about, "Hey, I'm special, look at me." And we, I, affirm that that is important. We *are* all special, and deserve to be looked at. But as the author of this article calls for, it is not enough. In IV we used to talk about being *transcultural*, and that this was the call of the Gospel. To say, Yes, I am special, but now I want to go into your culture, and understand you, and empathize with your experience, and contextualize myself into your life, just as I hope you do in mine. But of course, the words of Jesus are not, "Do unto others so that they will do unto you," but rather, "Do unto others as you would have them do." Whether or not my brother chooses to contextualize transculturally into my world, my goal is to do that into his. I agree with this, but it seems a bit out-of-date. I attended Obama's college, Occidental, from 89-93. They were big on the word multicultural. Our IV chapter was not. (At 10% of the student body, we were by far the largest Christian concern going on the campus.) Multicultural seemed to be about, “Hey, I'm special, look at me.” And we, I, affirm that that is important. We *are* all special, and deserve to be looked at. But as the author of this article calls for, it is not enough. In IV we used to talk about being *transcultural*, and that this was the call of the Gospel. To say, Yes, I am special, but now I want to go into your culture, and understand you, and empathize with your experience, and contextualize myself into your life, just as I hope you do in mine. But of course, the words of Jesus are not, “Do unto others so that they will do unto you,” but rather, “Do unto others as you would have them do.” Whether or not my brother chooses to contextualize transculturally into my world, my goal is to do that into his.

]]> http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-98853 Kim Shimer Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:28:27 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-98853 Chris, I would encourage you to check out Curtiss Paul DeYoung's new book, <i> Coming Together in the 21st Century: The Bible's Message in an Age of Diversity</i>. Its ethnically and culturally diverse contributors include Brenda Salter-McNeil, Richard Twiss, Jean Zaru, Mimi Haddad, and Allan Boesak. If you'd like a review copy, I'd be happy to send you one (I work for the publisher, Judson Press). Chris, I would encourage you to check out Curtiss Paul DeYoung's new book, Coming Together in the 21st Century: The Bible's Message in an Age of Diversity. Its ethnically and culturally diverse contributors include Brenda Salter-McNeil, Richard Twiss, Jean Zaru, Mimi Haddad, and Allan Boesak. If you'd like a review copy, I'd be happy to send you one (I work for the publisher, Judson Press).

]]> http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-98819 joshkidd Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:12:47 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-98819 I'm not sure that you make a convincing case against diversity. My reading of 1 Cor. 12: 14-20 leads me to believe that diversity is a reasonable telos, as it were. Isn't it more amazing to see people of many different ethnic identities making up a single body than for everyone to transcend their identities to become one body? If we all transcend our identities, what body is there? I'm not sure that you make a convincing case against diversity. My reading of 1 Cor. 12: 14-20 leads me to believe that diversity is a reasonable telos, as it were. Isn't it more amazing to see people of many different ethnic identities making up a single body than for everyone to transcend their identities to become one body? If we all transcend our identities, what body is there?

]]> http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-98772 privelegeslayer Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:29:54 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-98772 Yeah, but Mestizos usually were given higher status than Indigenous people. So the Mestizo model is flawed, because it is still based on hierarchy. Yeah, but Mestizos usually were given higher status than Indigenous people. So the Mestizo model is flawed, because it is still based on hierarchy.

]]> http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-98770 Weiwen Ng Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:16:40 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-98770 Mestizo is also the term used to refer to people of mixed Spanish and Native American ancestry (e.g. the people of Mexico). Asking the church to become mestizo, then, is inextricably linked to asking the church in Europe and North America to give up its racial privilege - not to stop being White, but to stand with people of color and to accept them in leadership positions. Asking the church to become mestizo must also mean asking the church to acknowledge the ways in which it has violated the rights of Indigenous people in the past, and to make up for those violations. Mestizo is also the term used to refer to people of mixed Spanish and Native American ancestry (e.g. the people of Mexico). Asking the church to become mestizo, then, is inextricably linked to asking the church in Europe and North America to give up its racial privilege – not to stop being White, but to stand with people of color and to accept them in leadership positions. Asking the church to become mestizo must also mean asking the church to acknowledge the ways in which it has violated the rights of Indigenous people in the past, and to make up for those violations.

]]> http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-98647 BlueDeacon Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:33:44 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-98647 As much as I dislike "cults" because of their uses of heterodox theology and mind control, this is one thing they get right and why they can be so effective. As much as I dislike “cults” because of their uses of heterodox theology and mind control, this is one thing they get right and why they can be so effective.

]]> http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-98623 Beyond ‘Diversity’: New Creation and a Mestizo Vision | The Just Life Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:32:34 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-98623 [...] Beyond ‘Diversity’: New Creation and a Mestizo Vision The Just Life | Dec 01, 2009 | 0 comments [...] [...] Beyond ‘Diversity’: New Creation and a Mestizo Vision The Just Life | Dec 01, 2009 | 0 comments [...]

]]> http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/01/beyond-diversity-new-creation-and-a-mestizo-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-98598 letjusticerolldown Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:28:10 +0000 http://blog.sojo.net/?p=13807#comment-98598 Thanks for the reflection. I don't think I would seek to grasp the supreme concept of "towards what." It is part of the pathway of "seeking first the Kingdom." The answer is not to conceive of the end and grasp it--but is within the seeking. The concepts are mile markers. Maybe one comes before the other. On the other hand, they might just be marking different ponits on the path. As we pass one and move towards the next we tend to overly fixate on the next signpost as if there are no others. Thanks for the reflection. I don't think I would seek to grasp the supreme concept of “towards what.” It is part of the pathway of “seeking first the Kingdom.” The answer is not to conceive of the end and grasp it–but is within the seeking. The concepts are mile markers. Maybe one comes before the other. On the other hand, they might just be marking different ponits on the path. As we pass one and move towards the next we tend to overly fixate on the next signpost as if there are no others.

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