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What Is Happening Is Bigger Than Emergent

by Sarah-Ji 04-19-2010

[Read more of this blog conversation in response to the Sojourners article “Is the ‘Emerging Church’ for Whites Only?”]

Julie Clawson invited me and a bunch of other people to participate in a synchroblog today to address the question “What is Emerging in the Church?”  I hesitated to post because I often feel left out when I listen in on emergent church conversations because I don’t enjoy reading non-fiction, especially if it’s Christianity-related, and so I never got a handle on all the philosophical and theological lingo.  The reason I decided to participate, however, is that Julie is organizing this synchroblog specifically to get a diverse perspective on the whole emerging church thing (e.g. perspectives other than those of the white male middle-class which some claim dominates the conversation).  I figured I would add to the diversity, and not because I’m Asian and female, but because I’ve remained on the fringe of the conversation.

I spent most of my life in fundamentalist, evangelical, or charismatic churches.  I left the Church with a capital C for a few years when I reached 30.  I now identify with Quakers but have never attended a meeting and am part of a small United Methodist church.  I think the vast majority of the congregation don’t know what the emergent church is.  Most of them have never heard of Brian McLaren or Doug Pagitt or Tony Jones. Our pastor was emergent before she even knew there was such a conversation going on. I would also surmise that many of those who are active in our church community do not know what it means to be Methodist as opposed to being Presbyterian (I know I don’t). I couldn’t tell you what so-and-so believes about original sin or hell or heaven or even Jesus himself. There are those who do not identify as Christian. And yet, we come together and choose to be a part of each other’s lives because we know we are better for it. We openly claim our lack of certitude, and yet we can feel that there is something in our midst that is worth being a part of that is beyond belief or theology.

I believe that there are many other churches and faith communities (like mine) who are clueless about emergent church goings-on, but are still asking similar questions and having similar conversations as those who officially identify with the Emergent church with a capital E.  I believe what is happening is bigger than Emergent because it is not something that those within the conversation are manufacturing on their own just because they happen to be wiser or more progressive than others.  It is this bigger story that is emerging which keeps me connected and hopeful that someday those who follow the way of Jesus will finally be known by their love.

portrait-sarah-jiSarah-Ji is a Chicago-based photographer who collects visual stories and souvenirs wherever she goes.  She contributes to Shutter Sisters and Kimchi Mamas and posts slices from her everyday life on sarah-ji.com.

Categories: Diversity, Race, Theology
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  • sorry, I was confusing. My comment was meant as raising its own issue while agreeing with some of your statements. ...wasn't meant as an accusation that you were calling the movement dead.

    You're right, the emergent conversation is still very much alive in many communities.
  • Thanks for your comment, jonschmidt. I'll be the first to admit that my post got on sojo due to my insomnia and being one of the first to post as part of the synchroblog. There are many other posts that are much more specific and enlightening, so I suggest you check out the whole list.

    I think there are many, many other Christians who are participating in the emergent conversation who are not necessarily tied to any group that is officially (or even unofficially) Emergent, and I think that's a good thing.
  • Um...I never said emergent was dead. Most of the Emergent-sy folks I know seem to think the conversation is still very much alive. It doesn't matter to me if emergent or Emergent or emerging is dead, as long as the conversation keeps going.
  • Hi, K180. I didn't say that white male middle class folks were dominating the conversation, just that some claim they do. I don't know if they do or not because I'm really on the fringe of the conversation myself. The whole point of the synchroblog that Julie Clawson organized (which this post is a part of) was in RESPONSE to the article in Sojourner called 'Is the "Emerging Church" for Whites Only?", to demonstrate the diverse voices and opinions that exist withing the wide-reaching arc of what some call emerging/emergent.

    In my personal sphere of influence, it's women who have had the most impact.
  • jonschmidt
    Great post Sarah-Ji. I appreciate you weighing in with your perspective.
    This is a really interesting point about the "capital E Emergent Church" versus all the people who don't know about this movement who are struggling with contextualizing their faith in this post modern, post colonial, post structuralist world we live in.
    I don't attend an emergent/emerging church, but might consider myself to be emerging. I want to follow the Bible and be humble about what we think we can definitively know from it.
    I'm also deeply sad at how so many Christians use the Bible to judge others. I believe that in many parts of the world the church is in decline because Christians are too comfortable thinking they are the "moral" members of society. The Bible exhorts us to love and care for the orphans, widows, prisoners, and all who are weak. Jesus, like a doctor, came not for the well but for the sick. Christians have forgotten to take care of others and have become pre-occupied with individual salvation, and financial comfort.

    Sad that the previous posts here seem way off topic.
    K180, you don't have to be "dominating" (you sound very defensive, what's that about?) because as a white male you are accorded many privilges. You ARE allowed to be offended, but I'm not sure what about. Research clearly indicates that men earn more money than women, and whites earn more than people of color, even when doing the same job. People are uncomfortable with "difference" so they are more likely to talk to or hire people like themselves. People with "non-white" sounding names are less likely to get interviews when applying for jobs. I could go on and on. Go to PBS and watch the video on the 1970s teacher who tried a controversial experiment to help whites understand racism (Blue vs Brown eyed children). Recognize that you have privileges and access to resources not because you deserve it, but because you were randomly born with certain socially valued characteristics.
    Shalom
  • I've been admittedly dismayed at the recent outcry from mostly fundamentalist emergent leaders claiming that "the emergent movement is dead."

    I think that the more honest assessment is that the emergent movement is breaking out of the traditional Evangelical circles and is being embraced by mainstream churches and communities (including liberal strands). These original emergent leaders are seeing "their movement" moving beyond the grasp of their control, and I think they are being upset by the fact that the movement (like many movements) is evolving into something greater than the original framework allowed for. In this case, the theology of social justice, acceptance of women in leadership, study of theology in general, earth care, and a few other issues are beginning to see strong advocates while other issues, such as colonial-style evangelism is taking a back seat.

    It is sad when the so called "leaders of the movement" use their soapbox to declare a movement "dead" just because it has evolved beyond their control and personal theology.

    I also think that, like you said in this blog post, many communities have known some of these emergent ideas for a long time, but simply didn't know the label to put on it. I also think that many communities have adopted their own flavor of emergent (which, I would remind most readers, is the purpose of the emergent "movement" being something different from just another worship "style" like contemporary, traditional, etc). Dan Kimball, a well known emergent author, once wrote about this very topic in his book "Emerging Worship...", but now is quick to declare the movement dead because of its diversity of theology. What gives?

    My final point would be that different communities arrive at phases at different times. Some churches are just now discovering "contemporary"... which to some seems ludicrous. Now, some of those churches may be starting a service style because it is the (old) trendy thing to do. Others may authentically be evolving to that point, and it may be the best thing for their spiritual development. Is contemporary "dead" nationwide just because it is old hat for your church community?

    Is emergent "dead" simply because Rob Bell finds down-sides to his mega-emergent-church? Is emergent possibilities impossible for a church somewhere in the midwest just because Dan Kimball sees a drop in evangelistic theology in California emergent churches?

    A new emergent community may have started today somewhere in the world, and it pains me to know that the leaders who started the movement are so eager to give up on the whole thing and label it dead for the world when there are communities starting right now that need that push... that message... that change and fresh perspective.
  • k180
    I'm a white male and middle-classed and I don't dominate any conversation anywhere. I I thought we were moving beyond this. Am I allowed to be offended too? You do understand that if you are prejudgemental towards white people, it's still prejudiced, don't you???
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