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The Gentler Gamester is the Soonest Winner

"The appeal of terrorism is waning," said Mathew Burrows, head of long-range analysis in the office of the director of national intelligence. According to The New York Times, a new report from the National Intelligence Council, representing all 16 American intelligence agencies, predicts that "Al Qaeda could soon be on the decline, having alienated Muslim supporters with indiscriminate killing and inattention to the practical problems of poverty, unemployment and education."

As American and Indian intelligence continue to point to the Pakistani militant organization Lashkar-e-Taiba as responsible for last week's attacks in Mumbai, I hope Pakistani and Indian officials have seen this report. It is not news that poverty, fear, and wide civilian casualties provide a breeding ground for terrorism. Economic stability, education, and infrastructure can be some of the most effective tools to undermining the terrorists' credibility and deflating their claims.

Reading these stories brought back to my mind an op-ed piece Kofi Annan wrote as he was retiring, on the lessons he had learned during 10 years as secretary general of the United Nations. The first two of those lessons were:

First, in today's world we are all responsible for each other's security. Against such threats as nuclear proliferation, climate change, global pandemics or terrorists operating from safe havens in failed states, no nation can make itself secure by seeking supremacy over all others. Only by working to make each other secure can we hope to achieve lasting security for ourselves. This responsibility includes our shared responsibility to protect people from genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity....

Second, we are also responsible for each other's welfare. Without a measure of solidarity, no society can be truly stable. It is not realistic to think that some people can go on deriving great benefits from globalization while billions of others are left in, or thrown into, abject poverty. We have to give all our fellow human beings at least a chance to share in our prosperity.

Last week I was in the U.K. and visited the Globe Theatre with my 10-year-old son, who was working on a school project. It reminded me of a scene from Shakespeare's Henry the Fifth, as English troops are marching through France. Henry forbids his men from attacking, harming, and harassing peasants, "For when lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentler gamester is the soonest winner." Henry knew that the bravery of his men on St. Crispin's Day would mean little if their cruelty to the French people undermined their victory.

With al Qaeda losing their support through ignoring the basic needs of the people they claim to fight for, my hope and prayer is that India, Pakistan, and our next administration capitalize on this weakness through a foreign policy that strikes to the roots of terrorism by addressing those needs.

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by: amarouk

12-04-2008 @ 9:54pm

So true. Our supposed Christian nation seems to forget that by their deeds shall you know them. I doubt Christ approves of the tactics this nation has used to try to make us "secure".

by: rodhoke

12-04-2008 @ 9:58pm

From a new commentator, but appreciative reader of the online Sojourners that I receive:
Coincidentally, I had just read and forwarded the current occasional op/ed "Sightings" put out by Martin Marty from U of Chi, with my own intro, including this:

This fascinating article of the gradual shift toward religious inclusivity and interfaith activity on campuses (yes, and here and there in the general society)should be read against the background of a remarkable footnote in the horrific stories coming out of Mumbai (formerly Bombay). I refer to the REFUSAL TO BURY THE TERRORIST YOUNG MEN WHO WERE KILLED because they "were not true Muslims", having committed such heinous and brutal acts. Set that alongside this insight from said article--
A 2007 Pew Survey found that twice the number of respondents had a negative view of Muslims than a positive view. If the color line was the problem of the twentieth century, as DuBois famously observed, it appears that the faith line will be the challenge of the twenty-first. (ed. note, rdh-- does the Obama landslide show a sudden shift from that, given that fully a third of voters are said to have clung to the notion that Barack Hussein Obama was a 'closet Muslim' ?)
But I am puzzled that these Intelligence agencies seem to see Terrorism and Al Quaida as being on the wane! Tell that to the most recent victims and their families anywhere in the world, whose pain and losses receive momentary attention from us who are far away and immediately recede into the haze of our economy pre-occupations (which will also spawn new recruits for Terrorism as the disproportionate consumption of the USA and other industrial powers becomes more and more painful to the underdeveloped nations and to the masses in the Middle East and Asia.
from Rod Hokenson, retired Lutheran clergy in Adrian MI.

by: andypratt

12-04-2008 @ 10:36pm

Hello Everyone
Praise Jesus Forever!
It's the good people of the world, who just want to live their lives in peace, who give us hope, who are our examples, like the Pakistani we read about today. How amazing these people are, to live in deprivations and dangers we know nothing about, and still give themselves to goodness and Truth, often giving up their lives in the process.
Blessings and True Courage to all, Heaven awaits us...

Andy Pratt. musician

by: NMRod

12-05-2008 @ 12:01am

It is always wrong when people resort to killing others, regardless of whether they have had their resentments manipulated until they believe they are doing it in support of a justified cause.

The moral clarity with which we observe the violent and cruel actions of others should teach us this universal, which applies to us as well, that the end does not justify the means. If one attempts to reach a good end by bad means, one ends up only at a bad end. Means and ends become indistinguishable. Evil begets further evil. Violence does not make an end but a cycle. Violence is never redemptive.

Nevertheless, a bad means does not mean that there could not, given other means, be a good end.

We are not hated because we are free and violence does not occur completely irrationally, that is, without any cause at all, for no reason. By its nature, terrorism, as an act of war, is political in nature. It seeks to achieve political ends.

Terrorist movements thrive as parasites when the host they feed on, the body politic it attaches itself to, is not healthy and is too weakened to resist the infection. The parasite will seek to delude the host that the infection is even in its interest, if the weakness is at all attributable to genuine oppression by political opponents and their allies.

It is in our interest, if we are pro-life, to make sure other populations are not suffering from anything we have done to them and to support them in their genuine goals to health.

by: savvyguy

12-05-2008 @ 12:28am

nmrod; what does your 4th paragraph say? where do you get this sage stuff? then, who is the host you refer to? afganistan? is this of interest only to pro-lifers? sso first we must detrermine if "we" have done to them then, suport them. right. what do you mean to say here. please say it. if it's love your neighbor then okay. or is it feed the starving? or stop all violence? i think what wallis is saying is something like ....if we solve the poverty problem we solve the terrorism problem. don't think so. the intelligence reporters have a vested interest in telling all of us that we are winning the war on terror. i hope the new administration continues to seek and destroy terrorists whereever they are.

by: NMRod

12-05-2008 @ 1:40am

Please define terrorism. Maybe we are misspeaking in the Oceanian Orwellian sense.

by: BlueDeacon

12-05-2008 @ 5:05am

But I am puzzled that these Intelligence agencies seem to see Terrorism and Al Quaida as being on the wane!

This does seem to be the case. One reason why the government of Iraq has been able to stabilize the country is because the militancy of al-Qaeda has alienated many Iraqis to the point where they're cooperating with authorities and militias that are fighting the terrorists. That hadn't happened until recently

by: savvyguy

12-07-2008 @ 4:26am

go to webster. then answer my questions. please.

by: instructor29

12-08-2008 @ 4:09am

"It is not news that poverty, fear, and wide civilian casualties provide a breeding ground for terrorism. Economic stability, education, and infrastructure can be some of the most effective tools to undermining the terrorists' credibility and deflating their claims."

I would believe the comment Jim makes about poverty causing terrorism if it weren't for the fact that many of the worst terrorists came from good backgrounds and even attended college. The guys involved in the Heathrow Airport attack sometime ago were doctors in England. Osama bin Ladin is a mechanical engineer and came from a very wealthy family. While these men may prey on the poor and those without hope, they are still bent on destroying the West, and especially, Christianity.

by: savvyguy

12-07-2008 @ 4:26am

go to webster. then answer my questions. please.

by: instructor29

12-08-2008 @ 4:09am

"It is not news that poverty, fear, and wide civilian casualties provide a breeding ground for terrorism. Economic stability, education, and infrastructure can be some of the most effective tools to undermining the terrorists' credibility and deflating their claims."

I would believe the comment Jim makes about poverty causing terrorism if it weren't for the fact that many of the worst terrorists came from good backgrounds and even attended college. The guys involved in the Heathrow Airport attack sometime ago were doctors in England. Osama bin Ladin is a mechanical engineer and came from a very wealthy family. While these men may prey on the poor and those without hope, they are still bent on destroying the West, and especially, Christianity.

by: BlueDeacon

12-04-2008 @ 8:24pm

So true. It's not enough to be against something -- folks need to be for something else. Spending all our time defeating perceived enemies will eventually leave us defeated.

by: amarouk

12-04-2008 @ 9:54pm

So true. Our supposed Christian nation seems to forget that by their deeds shall you know them. I doubt Christ approves of the tactics this nation has used to try to make us "secure".

by: rodhoke

12-04-2008 @ 9:58pm

From a new commentator, but appreciative reader of the online Sojourners that I receive:
Coincidentally, I had just read and forwarded the current occasional op/ed "Sightings" put out by Martin Marty from U of Chi, with my own intro, including this:

This fascinating article of the gradual shift toward religious inclusivity and interfaith activity on campuses (yes, and here and there in the general society)should be read against the background of a remarkable footnote in the horrific stories coming out of Mumbai (formerly Bombay). I refer to the REFUSAL TO BURY THE TERRORIST YOUNG MEN WHO WERE KILLED because they "were not true Muslims", having committed such heinous and brutal acts. Set that alongside this insight from said article--
A 2007 Pew Survey found that twice the number of respondents had a negative view of Muslims than a positive view. If the color line was the problem of the twentieth century, as DuBois famously observed, it appears that the faith line will be the challenge of the twenty-first. (ed. note, rdh-- does the Obama landslide show a sudden shift from that, given that fully a third of voters are said to have clung to the notion that Barack Hussein Obama was a 'closet Muslim' ?)
But I am puzzled that these Intelligence agencies seem to see Terrorism and Al Quaida as being on the wane! Tell that to the most recent victims and their families anywhere in the world, whose pain and losses receive momentary attention from us who are far away and immediately recede into the haze of our economy pre-occupations (which will also spawn new recruits for Terrorism as the disproportionate consumption of the USA and other industrial powers becomes more and more painful to the underdeveloped nations and to the masses in the Middle East and Asia.
from Rod Hokenson, retired Lutheran clergy in Adrian MI.

by: andypratt

12-04-2008 @ 10:36pm

Hello Everyone
Praise Jesus Forever!
It's the good people of the world, who just want to live their lives in peace, who give us hope, who are our examples, like the Pakistani we read about today. How amazing these people are, to live in deprivations and dangers we know nothing about, and still give themselves to goodness and Truth, often giving up their lives in the process.
Blessings and True Courage to all, Heaven awaits us...

Andy Pratt. musician

by: NMRod

12-05-2008 @ 12:01am

It is always wrong when people resort to killing others, regardless of whether they have had their resentments manipulated until they believe they are doing it in support of a justified cause.

The moral clarity with which we observe the violent and cruel actions of others should teach us this universal, which applies to us as well, that the end does not justify the means. If one attempts to reach a good end by bad means, one ends up only at a bad end. Means and ends become indistinguishable. Evil begets further evil. Violence does not make an end but a cycle. Violence is never redemptive.

Nevertheless, a bad means does not mean that there could not, given other means, be a good end.

We are not hated because we are free and violence does not occur completely irrationally, that is, without any cause at all, for no reason. By its nature, terrorism, as an act of war, is political in nature. It seeks to achieve political ends.

Terrorist movements thrive as parasites when the host they feed on, the body politic it attaches itself to, is not healthy and is too weakened to resist the infection. The parasite will seek to delude the host that the infection is even in its interest, if the weakness is at all attributable to genuine oppression by political opponents and their allies.

It is in our interest, if we are pro-life, to make sure other populations are not suffering from anything we have done to them and to support them in their genuine goals to health.

by: savvyguy

12-05-2008 @ 12:28am

nmrod; what does your 4th paragraph say? where do you get this sage stuff? then, who is the host you refer to? afganistan? is this of interest only to pro-lifers? sso first we must detrermine if "we" have done to them then, suport them. right. what do you mean to say here. please say it. if it's love your neighbor then okay. or is it feed the starving? or stop all violence? i think what wallis is saying is something like ....if we solve the poverty problem we solve the terrorism problem. don't think so. the intelligence reporters have a vested interest in telling all of us that we are winning the war on terror. i hope the new administration continues to seek and destroy terrorists whereever they are.

by: NMRod

12-05-2008 @ 1:40am

Please define terrorism. Maybe we are misspeaking in the Oceanian Orwellian sense.

by: BlueDeacon

12-05-2008 @ 5:05am

But I am puzzled that these Intelligence agencies seem to see Terrorism and Al Quaida as being on the wane!

This does seem to be the case. One reason why the government of Iraq has been able to stabilize the country is because the militancy of al-Qaeda has alienated many Iraqis to the point where they're cooperating with authorities and militias that are fighting the terrorists. That hadn't happened until recently

by: BlueDeacon

12-04-2008 @ 8:24pm

So true. It's not enough to be against something -- folks need to be for something else. Spending all our time defeating perceived enemies will eventually leave us defeated.

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by: BlueDeacon

12-04-2008 @ 8:24pm

So true. It's not enough to be against something -- folks need to be for something else. Spending all our time defeating perceived enemies will eventually leave us defeated.

by: BlueDeacon

12-04-2008 @ 8:24pm

So true. It's not enough to be against something -- folks need to be for something else. Spending all our time defeating perceived enemies will eventually leave us defeated.

by: amarouk

12-04-2008 @ 9:54pm

So true. Our supposed Christian nation seems to forget that by their deeds shall you know them. I doubt Christ approves of the tactics this nation has used to try to make us "secure".

by: amarouk

12-04-2008 @ 9:54pm

So true. Our supposed Christian nation seems to forget that by their deeds shall you know them. I doubt Christ approves of the tactics this nation has used to try to make us "secure".

by: rodhoke

12-04-2008 @ 9:58pm

From a new commentator, but appreciative reader of the online Sojourners that I receive:
Coincidentally, I had just read and forwarded the current occasional op/ed "Sightings" put out by Martin Marty from U of Chi, with my own intro, including this:

This fascinating article of the gradual shift toward religious inclusivity and interfaith activity on campuses (yes, and here and there in the general society)should be read against the background of a remarkable footnote in the horrific stories coming out of Mumbai (formerly Bombay). I refer to the REFUSAL TO BURY THE TERRORIST YOUNG MEN WHO WERE KILLED because they "were not true Muslims", having committed such heinous and brutal acts. Set that alongside this insight from said article--
A 2007 Pew Survey found that twice the number of respondents had a negative view of Muslims than a positive view. If the color line was the problem of the twentieth century, as DuBois famously observed, it appears that the faith line will be the challenge of the twenty-first. (ed. note, rdh-- does the Obama landslide show a sudden shift from that, given that fully a third of voters are said to have clung to the notion that Barack Hussein Obama was a 'closet Muslim' ?)
But I am puzzled that these Intelligence agencies seem to see Terrorism and Al Quaida as being on the wane! Tell that to the most recent victims and their families anywhere in the world, whose pain and losses receive momentary attention from us who are far away and immediately recede into the haze of our economy pre-occupations (which will also spawn new recruits for Terrorism as the disproportionate consumption of the USA and other industrial powers becomes more and more painful to the underdeveloped nations and to the masses in the Middle East and Asia.
from Rod Hokenson, retired Lutheran clergy in Adrian MI.

by: rodhoke

12-04-2008 @ 9:58pm

From a new commentator, but appreciative reader of the online Sojourners that I receive:
Coincidentally, I had just read and forwarded the current occasional op/ed "Sightings" put out by Martin Marty from U of Chi, with my own intro, including this:

This fascinating article of the gradual shift toward religious inclusivity and interfaith activity on campuses (yes, and here and there in the general society)should be read against the background of a remarkable footnote in the horrific stories coming out of Mumbai (formerly Bombay). I refer to the REFUSAL TO BURY THE TERRORIST YOUNG MEN WHO WERE KILLED because they "were not true Muslims", having committed such heinous and brutal acts. Set that alongside this insight from said article--
A 2007 Pew Survey found that twice the number of respondents had a negative view of Muslims than a positive view. If the color line was the problem of the twentieth century, as DuBois famously observed, it appears that the faith line will be the challenge of the twenty-first. (ed. note, rdh-- does the Obama landslide show a sudden shift from that, given that fully a third of voters are said to have clung to the notion that Barack Hussein Obama was a 'closet Muslim' ?)
But I am puzzled that these Intelligence agencies seem to see Terrorism and Al Quaida as being on the wane! Tell that to the most recent victims and their families anywhere in the world, whose pain and losses receive momentary attention from us who are far away and immediately recede into the haze of our economy pre-occupations (which will also spawn new recruits for Terrorism as the disproportionate consumption of the USA and other industrial powers becomes more and more painful to the underdeveloped nations and to the masses in the Middle East and Asia.
from Rod Hokenson, retired Lutheran clergy in Adrian MI.

by: andypratt

12-04-2008 @ 10:36pm

Hello Everyone
Praise Jesus Forever!
It's the good people of the world, who just want to live their lives in peace, who give us hope, who are our examples, like the Pakistani we read about today. How amazing these people are, to live in deprivations and dangers we know nothing about, and still give themselves to goodness and Truth, often giving up their lives in the process.
Blessings and True Courage to all, Heaven awaits us...

Andy Pratt. musician

by: andypratt

12-04-2008 @ 10:36pm

Hello Everyone
Praise Jesus Forever!
It's the good people of the world, who just want to live their lives in peace, who give us hope, who are our examples, like the Pakistani we read about today. How amazing these people are, to live in deprivations and dangers we know nothing about, and still give themselves to goodness and Truth, often giving up their lives in the process.
Blessings and True Courage to all, Heaven awaits us...

Andy Pratt. musician

by: NMRod

12-05-2008 @ 12:01am

It is always wrong when people resort to killing others, regardless of whether they have had their resentments manipulated until they believe they are doing it in support of a justified cause.

The moral clarity with which we observe the violent and cruel actions of others should teach us this universal, which applies to us as well, that the end does not justify the means. If one attempts to reach a good end by bad means, one ends up only at a bad end. Means and ends become indistinguishable. Evil begets further evil. Violence does not make an end but a cycle. Violence is never redemptive.

Nevertheless, a bad means does not mean that there could not, given other means, be a good end.

We are not hated because we are free and violence does not occur completely irrationally, that is, without any cause at all, for no reason. By its nature, terrorism, as an act of war, is political in nature. It seeks to achieve political ends.

Terrorist movements thrive as parasites when the host they feed on, the body politic it attaches itself to, is not healthy and is too weakened to resist the infection. The parasite will seek to delude the host that the infection is even in its interest, if the weakness is at all attributable to genuine oppression by political opponents and their allies.

It is in our interest, if we are pro-life, to make sure other populations are not suffering from anything we have done to them and to support them in their genuine goals to health.

by: NMRod

12-05-2008 @ 12:01am

It is always wrong when people resort to killing others, regardless of whether they have had their resentments manipulated until they believe they are doing it in support of a justified cause.

The moral clarity with which we observe the violent and cruel actions of others should teach us this universal, which applies to us as well, that the end does not justify the means. If one attempts to reach a good end by bad means, one ends up only at a bad end. Means and ends become indistinguishable. Evil begets further evil. Violence does not make an end but a cycle. Violence is never redemptive.

Nevertheless, a bad means does not mean that there could not, given other means, be a good end.

We are not hated because we are free and violence does not occur completely irrationally, that is, without any cause at all, for no reason. By its nature, terrorism, as an act of war, is political in nature. It seeks to achieve political ends.

Terrorist movements thrive as parasites when the host they feed on, the body politic it attaches itself to, is not healthy and is too weakened to resist the infection. The parasite will seek to delude the host that the infection is even in its interest, if the weakness is at all attributable to genuine oppression by political opponents and their allies.

It is in our interest, if we are pro-life, to make sure other populations are not suffering from anything we have done to them and to support them in their genuine goals to health.

by: savvyguy

12-05-2008 @ 12:28am

nmrod; what does your 4th paragraph say? where do you get this sage stuff? then, who is the host you refer to? afganistan? is this of interest only to pro-lifers? sso first we must detrermine if "we" have done to them then, suport them. right. what do you mean to say here. please say it. if it's love your neighbor then okay. or is it feed the starving? or stop all violence? i think what wallis is saying is something like ....if we solve the poverty problem we solve the terrorism problem. don't think so. the intelligence reporters have a vested interest in telling all of us that we are winning the war on terror. i hope the new administration continues to seek and destroy terrorists whereever they are.

by: savvyguy

12-05-2008 @ 12:28am

nmrod; what does your 4th paragraph say? where do you get this sage stuff? then, who is the host you refer to? afganistan? is this of interest only to pro-lifers? sso first we must detrermine if "we" have done to them then, suport them. right. what do you mean to say here. please say it. if it's love your neighbor then okay. or is it feed the starving? or stop all violence? i think what wallis is saying is something like ....if we solve the poverty problem we solve the terrorism problem. don't think so. the intelligence reporters have a vested interest in telling all of us that we are winning the war on terror. i hope the new administration continues to seek and destroy terrorists whereever they are.

by: NMRod

12-05-2008 @ 1:40am

Please define terrorism. Maybe we are misspeaking in the Oceanian Orwellian sense.

by: NMRod

12-05-2008 @ 1:40am

Please define terrorism. Maybe we are misspeaking in the Oceanian Orwellian sense.

by: BlueDeacon

12-05-2008 @ 5:05am

But I am puzzled that these Intelligence agencies seem to see Terrorism and Al Quaida as being on the wane!

This does seem to be the case. One reason why the government of Iraq has been able to stabilize the country is because the militancy of al-Qaeda has alienated many Iraqis to the point where they're cooperating with authorities and militias that are fighting the terrorists. That hadn't happened until recently

by: BlueDeacon

12-05-2008 @ 5:05am

But I am puzzled that these Intelligence agencies seem to see Terrorism and Al Quaida as being on the wane!

This does seem to be the case. One reason why the government of Iraq has been able to stabilize the country is because the militancy of al-Qaeda has alienated many Iraqis to the point where they're cooperating with authorities and militias that are fighting the terrorists. That hadn't happened until recently

by: savvyguy

12-07-2008 @ 4:26am

go to webster. then answer my questions. please.

by: savvyguy

12-07-2008 @ 4:26am

go to webster. then answer my questions. please.

by: instructor29

12-08-2008 @ 4:09am

"It is not news that poverty, fear, and wide civilian casualties provide a breeding ground for terrorism. Economic stability, education, and infrastructure can be some of the most effective tools to undermining the terrorists' credibility and deflating their claims."

I would believe the comment Jim makes about poverty causing terrorism if it weren't for the fact that many of the worst terrorists came from good backgrounds and even attended college. The guys involved in the Heathrow Airport attack sometime ago were doctors in England. Osama bin Ladin is a mechanical engineer and came from a very wealthy family. While these men may prey on the poor and those without hope, they are still bent on destroying the West, and especially, Christianity.

by: instructor29

12-08-2008 @ 4:09am

"It is not news that poverty, fear, and wide civilian casualties provide a breeding ground for terrorism. Economic stability, education, and infrastructure can be some of the most effective tools to undermining the terrorists' credibility and deflating their claims."

I would believe the comment Jim makes about poverty causing terrorism if it weren't for the fact that many of the worst terrorists came from good backgrounds and even attended college. The guys involved in the Heathrow Airport attack sometime ago were doctors in England. Osama bin Ladin is a mechanical engineer and came from a very wealthy family. While these men may prey on the poor and those without hope, they are still bent on destroying the West, and especially, Christianity.