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With the Health-Care Debate, Let's Begin with Honesty

"Has he been pre-authorized? Because if the test hasn't been, it may not be covered and you may be caught with the bill as my husband and I learned." Her jagged words hit me like a political ad. My heart spiraled down the drain of despair. My young infant was getting a test ordered by his pediatrician, a test scheduled in haste after a routine check-up, a test that may or may not be covered by my insurance. She said that she would get the ball rolling, but that maybe my wife and I should discuss whether we wanted to go through with the test. We could be on the hook for thousands of dollars we do not have.

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Here was our dilemma: Do we gamble with insurance or with our 4-month-old son's health? Of course, we chose our son's health. Could we pre-authorize it before our visit? No, we did not have the codes, so we were at the mercy of the bureaucrats at the hospital and insurance companies. One error by a stranger and we could go down into the netherworld of red tape. I could not blame the receptionist, as she explained that she and her husband were caught before in our nation's health-care web. They were still paying for it after three years.

My company does the best it can to provide my family with health care. Yet, every year I have worked for them, the price goes up and the coverage goes down. We pay more and get less. Again, I am not alone in this.

The month of August, because of the congressional recess, has become a cacophony of media on the issue of health care. We are being bombarded with a campaign of shock and awe about what the proposed changes to health care will mean, about how bad health care is in Canada and Britain, about how the government wants to kill our grandpa, and about the sinister takeover of health care by a covert socialist. Lost in the mix is the simple fact that our health care is broken. We pay the highest price for our health care, and get care that is behind countries like Chile, Saudi Arabia, and Cyprus. In other words, we pay for prime rib and get a bowl full of gristle.

Some may grizzle at my characterizing our health care as broken, but Dr. Atul Gawande charts the places that pay the highest price for health care in his New Yorker article, "The Cost Conundrum." The article reveals that places like MacAllen, Texas, are paying the most for health care but are not the ones with the best health care. The Mayo clinic, with its lower cost, has the better care. We are not getting our money's worth. No amount of fear-mongering will change this. We have to stop burying our heads in the sand and realize that our nation's current health-care system is not working for a majority of us.

We must start our conversations about health-care reform with the honest truth: Remaining on the current path will lead to destruction. We need to go the narrow path of asking the question of how we are going to move forward, ignoring the voices that provoke unnecessary fear. My son and his generation are counting on us.

Ernesto Tinajero is a freelance writer in Spokane, Washington, who earned his master's degree in theology from Fuller Seminary. Visit his blog at www.life-and-faith.org.

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by: KevinBatesville

08-19-2009 @ 9:27pm

Firstly, Ernest, thank you so much for putting a "face" on this discussion. In all of the comments to blog posts I've read, the commentors here seem to get it. All to often it de-evolves into discussion about business practices, or ideologies, etc.

All that crap is silly and complete avoids the injustice of the current situation.

Joanna, I couldn't have said it better...this isn't fair, or sane, or healthy.

Someone else referred to the actions of the insurance companies as evil, and I daresay that's not an exaggeration. I totally agree. We need to fight these people and take them to task, what they are doing is wrong and it's immoral and in our country (or any country for that matter) human beings should NEVER be treated this way, it's disgusting. And more of us, especially quite frankly so-called Christians, should speak truth to power on this point.

by: KevinBatesville

08-19-2009 @ 7:27pm

Firstly, Ernest, thank you so much for putting a "face" on this discussion. In all of the comments to blog posts I've read, the commentors here seem to get it. All to often it de-evolves into discussion about business practices, or ideologies, etc.

All that crap is silly and complete avoids the injustice of the current situation.

Joanna, I couldn't have said it better...this isn't fair, or sane, or healthy.

Someone else referred to the actions of the insurance companies as evil, and I daresay that's not an exaggeration. I totally agree. We need to fight these people and take them to task, what they are doing is wrong and it's immoral and in our country (or any country for that matter) human beings should NEVER be treated this way, it's disgusting. And more of us, especially quite frankly so-called Christians, should speak truth to power on this point.

by: KevinBatesville

08-19-2009 @ 7:27pm

Firstly, Ernest, thank you so much for putting a "face" on this discussion. In all of the comments to blog posts I've read, the commentors here seem to get it. All to often it de-evolves into discussion about business practices, or ideologies, etc.

All that crap is silly and complete avoids the injustice of the current situation.

Joanna, I couldn't have said it better...this isn't fair, or sane, or healthy.

Someone else referred to the actions of the insurance companies as evil, and I daresay that's not an exaggeration. I totally agree. We need to fight these people and take them to task, what they are doing is wrong and it's immoral and in our country (or any country for that matter) human beings should NEVER be treated this way, it's disgusting. And more of us, especially quite frankly so-called Christians, should speak truth to power on this point.

by: JoannaCW

08-13-2009 @ 4:00pm

Thank you for this clear reminder. I have trouble understanding the fear that a government plan would lead to bureaucratic interference,. given that the health-care industry already seems riddled with rules that don't advance health. I live and work among people who don't have reliable transportation and who have to travel hours to get to a medical center that will accept their insurance. And I saw the difference in the quality of medical care received by two grandparents of different income levels, both dying of cancer. This isn't fair, or sane, or healthy. There must be a better way.

by: SisterMarie

08-13-2009 @ 6:06pm

Ernesto,

Thanks for sharing your story. Here's mine:

A minister's wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. Their insurance company (sponsored by their denomination) refused to pay because they said that it was a pre-existing condition even though the doctor who had treated her before this insurance took effect had advised her that her fears had no basis and that she did not have cancer and was not at any increased risk for cancer.

The insurance companies actions have been very shameful. What I am reading at this site and other so-called Christians makes me sick

by: Mark Baker-Wright

08-13-2009 @ 6:06pm

Tito,

I pray that your insurance ultimately rose to the occasion in this situation. Thanks for the reminder toward fairness in this debate.

by: WaveTossed

08-13-2009 @ 6:09pm

Thanks. For all of the people screaming "rationing!", your article reminds us that health care rationing is taking place right now.

by: titopoet

08-13-2009 @ 6:10pm

As of today, no word from either the Hospital or Insurance.

by: titopoet

08-13-2009 @ 6:13pm

I am so very sorry. Here she needs her strength to fight the cancer and she has to waste energy on fighting the Insurance company. Not only shameful, but dare I say, evil.

by: JoannaCW

08-13-2009 @ 4:00pm

Thank you for this clear reminder. I have trouble understanding the fear that a government plan would lead to bureaucratic interference,. given that the health-care industry already seems riddled with rules that don't advance health. I live and work among people who don't have reliable transportation and who have to travel hours to get to a medical center that will accept their insurance. And I saw the difference in the quality of medical care received by two grandparents of different income levels, both dying of cancer. This isn't fair, or sane, or healthy. There must be a better way.

by: 1Grace

08-13-2009 @ 8:12pm

Excellent example of the problems on the health care issue . This one also fields fuel to the problem . In oregon a state covered person on the states medical plan had cancer , the state rejected his request for therapy . But in Oregon they assisted suicide , and in the form letter rejection he got for the cancer care was the information regarding end of life procedures . In all kinds of medical programs and systems we hear of these tragic stories , Its almost like which side can come up with the best story instead of concentrating on how we can make the system better , affordable , and avialable to tthe least of us and good enough to be used by those who actually write the bill . Is that honest ?

by: KevinBatesville

08-19-2009 @ 9:27pm

Firstly, Ernest, thank you so much for putting a "face" on this discussion. In all of the comments to blog posts I've read, the commentors here seem to get it. All to often it de-evolves into discussion about business practices, or ideologies, etc.

All that crap is silly and complete avoids the injustice of the current situation.

Joanna, I couldn't have said it better...this isn't fair, or sane, or healthy.

Someone else referred to the actions of the insurance companies as evil, and I daresay that's not an exaggeration. I totally agree. We need to fight these people and take them to task, what they are doing is wrong and it's immoral and in our country (or any country for that matter) human beings should NEVER be treated this way, it's disgusting. And more of us, especially quite frankly so-called Christians, should speak truth to power on this point.

by: SisterMarie

08-13-2009 @ 6:06pm

Ernesto,

Thanks for sharing your story. Here's mine:

A minister's wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. Their insurance company (sponsored by their denomination) refused to pay because they said that it was a pre-existing condition even though the doctor who had treated her before this insurance took effect had advised her that her fears had no basis and that she did not have cancer and was not at any increased risk for cancer.

The insurance companies actions have been very shameful. What I am reading at this site and other so-called Christians makes me sick

by: Mark Baker-Wright

08-13-2009 @ 6:06pm

Tito,

I pray that your insurance ultimately rose to the occasion in this situation. Thanks for the reminder toward fairness in this debate.

by: WaveTossed

08-13-2009 @ 6:09pm

Thanks. For all of the people screaming "rationing!", your article reminds us that health care rationing is taking place right now.

by: titopoet

08-13-2009 @ 6:10pm

As of today, no word from either the Hospital or Insurance.

by: DITE

08-14-2009 @ 12:47am

"We pay the highest price for our health care, and get care that is behind countries like Chile, Saudi Arabia, and Cyprus."

Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz came to the Mayo Clinic for a physical examination last year. He must not agree that we are behind (whatever that means) his country in health care.

The reason we pay more isn't because of greedy insurance companies or big pharma, or whatever. It's simple. We spend a lot more money on medical research and development. Name me a significant medical innovation from Chile, Saudi Arabia, or Cyprus. If we move to a health care system where government manipulates prices, companies will have little motivation to develop new medical products.

by: titopoet

08-13-2009 @ 6:13pm

I am so very sorry. Here she needs her strength to fight the cancer and she has to waste energy on fighting the Insurance company. Not only shameful, but dare I say, evil.

by: titopoet

08-14-2009 @ 2:04am

I think my answer may surprise you. I am glad you brought the Mayo Clinic. They are a model that the rest of the country should look to as we go about reforming our health care. Unfortunately, they are not the norm. The Gawande article I quote lays it out better than I could. I would encourage you to read it. I am beginning to stand with a very small minority that thinks the solution to health care is not with more government control, but introducing capitalistic elements into the system. To answer your point on research and development, we also lead the world in Computing and Information Technology. Yet, IT costs keeps going down, even as it continues to get better. Why? Competition. Another great article is David Goldhill's How American Health Care Killed My Father, http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care (I was not aware of the article or I would have include it) Right now there is no incentives for cost control because the consumer is not the one who pays. It is predictable that health care would become bloated and inefficient. We need to rethink how we can rework it to included consumer directed health care. My point in the post was not to endorse a certain plan, but that we need to change the way we do health care.

by: titopoet

08-14-2009 @ 2:19am

Thank you for you story. It furthers my point that health care is broken. We have to begin from this truth. Is government the solution? I am not so sure. Yet, when the problem is stated as either Government or keep they way it is, then all there is picking a side. The key is not to think in terms of sides, which will only get us into a shouting match, but to start to think about problem solving. The more I investigate the issue, the more I am convinced that we need to introduce more capitalism into the system. Goldhill's article I quote below goes into better detail about it. Lasik is the perfect example of how when you harnesses the power of capitalism, good things happen. Lasik is now cheaper and better than it ever was. We may need to reintroduce capitalism, no matter how much the health care system doesn't like it, into the system.

by: 1Grace

08-13-2009 @ 8:12pm

Excellent example of the problems on the health care issue . This one also fields fuel to the problem . In oregon a state covered person on the states medical plan had cancer , the state rejected his request for therapy . But in Oregon they assisted suicide , and in the form letter rejection he got for the cancer care was the information regarding end of life procedures . In all kinds of medical programs and systems we hear of these tragic stories , Its almost like which side can come up with the best story instead of concentrating on how we can make the system better , affordable , and avialable to tthe least of us and good enough to be used by those who actually write the bill . Is that honest ?

by: DITE

08-14-2009 @ 12:47am

"We pay the highest price for our health care, and get care that is behind countries like Chile, Saudi Arabia, and Cyprus."

Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz came to the Mayo Clinic for a physical examination last year. He must not agree that we are behind (whatever that means) his country in health care.

The reason we pay more isn't because of greedy insurance companies or big pharma, or whatever. It's simple. We spend a lot more money on medical research and development. Name me a significant medical innovation from Chile, Saudi Arabia, or Cyprus. If we move to a health care system where government manipulates prices, companies will have little motivation to develop new medical products.

by: titopoet

08-14-2009 @ 2:04am

I think my answer may surprise you. I am glad you brought the Mayo Clinic. They are a model that the rest of the country should look to as we go about reforming our health care. Unfortunately, they are not the norm. The Gawande article I quote lays it out better than I could. I would encourage you to read it. I am beginning to stand with a very small minority that thinks the solution to health care is not with more government control, but introducing capitalistic elements into the system. To answer your point on research and development, we also lead the world in Computing and Information Technology. Yet, IT costs keeps going down, even as it continues to get better. Why? Competition. Another great article is David Goldhill's How American Health Care Killed My Father, http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care (I was not aware of the article or I would have include it) Right now there is no incentives for cost control because the consumer is not the one who pays. It is predictable that health care would become bloated and inefficient. We need to rethink how we can rework it to included consumer directed health care. My point in the post was not to endorse a certain plan, but that we need to change the way we do health care.

by: titopoet

08-14-2009 @ 2:19am

Thank you for you story. It furthers my point that health care is broken. We have to begin from this truth. Is government the solution? I am not so sure. Yet, when the problem is stated as either Government or keep they way it is, then all there is picking a side. The key is not to think in terms of sides, which will only get us into a shouting match, but to start to think about problem solving. The more I investigate the issue, the more I am convinced that we need to introduce more capitalism into the system. Goldhill's article I quote below goes into better detail about it. Lasik is the perfect example of how when you harnesses the power of capitalism, good things happen. Lasik is now cheaper and better than it ever was. We may need to reintroduce capitalism, no matter how much the health care system doesn't like it, into the system.

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by: JoannaCW

08-13-2009 @ 4:00pm

Thank you for this clear reminder. I have trouble understanding the fear that a government plan would lead to bureaucratic interference,. given that the health-care industry already seems riddled with rules that don't advance health. I live and work among people who don't have reliable transportation and who have to travel hours to get to a medical center that will accept their insurance. And I saw the difference in the quality of medical care received by two grandparents of different income levels, both dying of cancer. This isn't fair, or sane, or healthy. There must be a better way.

by: JoannaCW

08-13-2009 @ 4:00pm

Thank you for this clear reminder. I have trouble understanding the fear that a government plan would lead to bureaucratic interference,. given that the health-care industry already seems riddled with rules that don't advance health. I live and work among people who don't have reliable transportation and who have to travel hours to get to a medical center that will accept their insurance. And I saw the difference in the quality of medical care received by two grandparents of different income levels, both dying of cancer. This isn't fair, or sane, or healthy. There must be a better way.

by: SisterMarie

08-13-2009 @ 6:06pm

Ernesto,

Thanks for sharing your story. Here's mine:

A minister's wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. Their insurance company (sponsored by their denomination) refused to pay because they said that it was a pre-existing condition even though the doctor who had treated her before this insurance took effect had advised her that her fears had no basis and that she did not have cancer and was not at any increased risk for cancer.

The insurance companies actions have been very shameful. What I am reading at this site and other so-called Christians makes me sick

by: SisterMarie

08-13-2009 @ 6:06pm

Ernesto,

Thanks for sharing your story. Here's mine:

A minister's wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. Their insurance company (sponsored by their denomination) refused to pay because they said that it was a pre-existing condition even though the doctor who had treated her before this insurance took effect had advised her that her fears had no basis and that she did not have cancer and was not at any increased risk for cancer.

The insurance companies actions have been very shameful. What I am reading at this site and other so-called Christians makes me sick

by: Mark Baker-Wright

08-13-2009 @ 6:06pm

Tito,

I pray that your insurance ultimately rose to the occasion in this situation. Thanks for the reminder toward fairness in this debate.

by: Mark Baker-Wright

08-13-2009 @ 6:06pm

Tito,

I pray that your insurance ultimately rose to the occasion in this situation. Thanks for the reminder toward fairness in this debate.

by: WaveTossed

08-13-2009 @ 6:09pm

Thanks. For all of the people screaming "rationing!", your article reminds us that health care rationing is taking place right now.

by: WaveTossed

08-13-2009 @ 6:09pm

Thanks. For all of the people screaming "rationing!", your article reminds us that health care rationing is taking place right now.

by: titopoet

08-13-2009 @ 6:10pm

As of today, no word from either the Hospital or Insurance.

by: titopoet

08-13-2009 @ 6:10pm

As of today, no word from either the Hospital or Insurance.

by: titopoet

08-13-2009 @ 6:13pm

I am so very sorry. Here she needs her strength to fight the cancer and she has to waste energy on fighting the Insurance company. Not only shameful, but dare I say, evil.

by: titopoet

08-13-2009 @ 6:13pm

I am so very sorry. Here she needs her strength to fight the cancer and she has to waste energy on fighting the Insurance company. Not only shameful, but dare I say, evil.

by: 1Grace

08-13-2009 @ 8:12pm

Excellent example of the problems on the health care issue . This one also fields fuel to the problem . In oregon a state covered person on the states medical plan had cancer , the state rejected his request for therapy . But in Oregon they assisted suicide , and in the form letter rejection he got for the cancer care was the information regarding end of life procedures . In all kinds of medical programs and systems we hear of these tragic stories , Its almost like which side can come up with the best story instead of concentrating on how we can make the system better , affordable , and avialable to tthe least of us and good enough to be used by those who actually write the bill . Is that honest ?

by: 1Grace

08-13-2009 @ 8:12pm

Excellent example of the problems on the health care issue . This one also fields fuel to the problem . In oregon a state covered person on the states medical plan had cancer , the state rejected his request for therapy . But in Oregon they assisted suicide , and in the form letter rejection he got for the cancer care was the information regarding end of life procedures . In all kinds of medical programs and systems we hear of these tragic stories , Its almost like which side can come up with the best story instead of concentrating on how we can make the system better , affordable , and avialable to tthe least of us and good enough to be used by those who actually write the bill . Is that honest ?

by: DITE

08-14-2009 @ 12:47am

"We pay the highest price for our health care, and get care that is behind countries like Chile, Saudi Arabia, and Cyprus."

Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz came to the Mayo Clinic for a physical examination last year. He must not agree that we are behind (whatever that means) his country in health care.

The reason we pay more isn't because of greedy insurance companies or big pharma, or whatever. It's simple. We spend a lot more money on medical research and development. Name me a significant medical innovation from Chile, Saudi Arabia, or Cyprus. If we move to a health care system where government manipulates prices, companies will have little motivation to develop new medical products.

by: DITE

08-14-2009 @ 12:47am

"We pay the highest price for our health care, and get care that is behind countries like Chile, Saudi Arabia, and Cyprus."

Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz came to the Mayo Clinic for a physical examination last year. He must not agree that we are behind (whatever that means) his country in health care.

The reason we pay more isn't because of greedy insurance companies or big pharma, or whatever. It's simple. We spend a lot more money on medical research and development. Name me a significant medical innovation from Chile, Saudi Arabia, or Cyprus. If we move to a health care system where government manipulates prices, companies will have little motivation to develop new medical products.

by: titopoet

08-14-2009 @ 2:04am

I think my answer may surprise you. I am glad you brought the Mayo Clinic. They are a model that the rest of the country should look to as we go about reforming our health care. Unfortunately, they are not the norm. The Gawande article I quote lays it out better than I could. I would encourage you to read it. I am beginning to stand with a very small minority that thinks the solution to health care is not with more government control, but introducing capitalistic elements into the system. To answer your point on research and development, we also lead the world in Computing and Information Technology. Yet, IT costs keeps going down, even as it continues to get better. Why? Competition. Another great article is David Goldhill's How American Health Care Killed My Father, http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care (I was not aware of the article or I would have include it) Right now there is no incentives for cost control because the consumer is not the one who pays. It is predictable that health care would become bloated and inefficient. We need to rethink how we can rework it to included consumer directed health care. My point in the post was not to endorse a certain plan, but that we need to change the way we do health care.

by: titopoet

08-14-2009 @ 2:04am

I think my answer may surprise you. I am glad you brought the Mayo Clinic. They are a model that the rest of the country should look to as we go about reforming our health care. Unfortunately, they are not the norm. The Gawande article I quote lays it out better than I could. I would encourage you to read it. I am beginning to stand with a very small minority that thinks the solution to health care is not with more government control, but introducing capitalistic elements into the system. To answer your point on research and development, we also lead the world in Computing and Information Technology. Yet, IT costs keeps going down, even as it continues to get better. Why? Competition. Another great article is David Goldhill's How American Health Care Killed My Father, http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care (I was not aware of the article or I would have include it) Right now there is no incentives for cost control because the consumer is not the one who pays. It is predictable that health care would become bloated and inefficient. We need to rethink how we can rework it to included consumer directed health care. My point in the post was not to endorse a certain plan, but that we need to change the way we do health care.

by: titopoet

08-14-2009 @ 2:19am

Thank you for you story. It furthers my point that health care is broken. We have to begin from this truth. Is government the solution? I am not so sure. Yet, when the problem is stated as either Government or keep they way it is, then all there is picking a side. The key is not to think in terms of sides, which will only get us into a shouting match, but to start to think about problem solving. The more I investigate the issue, the more I am convinced that we need to introduce more capitalism into the system. Goldhill's article I quote below goes into better detail about it. Lasik is the perfect example of how when you harnesses the power of capitalism, good things happen. Lasik is now cheaper and better than it ever was. We may need to reintroduce capitalism, no matter how much the health care system doesn't like it, into the system.

by: titopoet

08-14-2009 @ 2:19am

Thank you for you story. It furthers my point that health care is broken. We have to begin from this truth. Is government the solution? I am not so sure. Yet, when the problem is stated as either Government or keep they way it is, then all there is picking a side. The key is not to think in terms of sides, which will only get us into a shouting match, but to start to think about problem solving. The more I investigate the issue, the more I am convinced that we need to introduce more capitalism into the system. Goldhill's article I quote below goes into better detail about it. Lasik is the perfect example of how when you harnesses the power of capitalism, good things happen. Lasik is now cheaper and better than it ever was. We may need to reintroduce capitalism, no matter how much the health care system doesn't like it, into the system.

by: KevinBatesville

08-19-2009 @ 7:27pm

Firstly, Ernest, thank you so much for putting a "face" on this discussion. In all of the comments to blog posts I've read, the commentors here seem to get it. All to often it de-evolves into discussion about business practices, or ideologies, etc.

All that crap is silly and complete avoids the injustice of the current situation.

Joanna, I couldn't have said it better...this isn't fair, or sane, or healthy.

Someone else referred to the actions of the insurance companies as evil, and I daresay that's not an exaggeration. I totally agree. We need to fight these people and take them to task, what they are doing is wrong and it's immoral and in our country (or any country for that matter) human beings should NEVER be treated this way, it's disgusting. And more of us, especially quite frankly so-called Christians, should speak truth to power on this point.

by: KevinBatesville

08-19-2009 @ 7:27pm

Firstly, Ernest, thank you so much for putting a "face" on this discussion. In all of the comments to blog posts I've read, the commentors here seem to get it. All to often it de-evolves into discussion about business practices, or ideologies, etc.

All that crap is silly and complete avoids the injustice of the current situation.

Joanna, I couldn't have said it better...this isn't fair, or sane, or healthy.

Someone else referred to the actions of the insurance companies as evil, and I daresay that's not an exaggeration. I totally agree. We need to fight these people and take them to task, what they are doing is wrong and it's immoral and in our country (or any country for that matter) human beings should NEVER be treated this way, it's disgusting. And more of us, especially quite frankly so-called Christians, should speak truth to power on this point.

by: KevinBatesville

08-19-2009 @ 9:27pm

Firstly, Ernest, thank you so much for putting a "face" on this discussion. In all of the comments to blog posts I've read, the commentors here seem to get it. All to often it de-evolves into discussion about business practices, or ideologies, etc.

All that crap is silly and complete avoids the injustice of the current situation.

Joanna, I couldn't have said it better...this isn't fair, or sane, or healthy.

Someone else referred to the actions of the insurance companies as evil, and I daresay that's not an exaggeration. I totally agree. We need to fight these people and take them to task, what they are doing is wrong and it's immoral and in our country (or any country for that matter) human beings should NEVER be treated this way, it's disgusting. And more of us, especially quite frankly so-called Christians, should speak truth to power on this point.

by: KevinBatesville

08-19-2009 @ 9:27pm

Firstly, Ernest, thank you so much for putting a "face" on this discussion. In all of the comments to blog posts I've read, the commentors here seem to get it. All to often it de-evolves into discussion about business practices, or ideologies, etc.

All that crap is silly and complete avoids the injustice of the current situation.

Joanna, I couldn't have said it better...this isn't fair, or sane, or healthy.

Someone else referred to the actions of the insurance companies as evil, and I daresay that's not an exaggeration. I totally agree. We need to fight these people and take them to task, what they are doing is wrong and it's immoral and in our country (or any country for that matter) human beings should NEVER be treated this way, it's disgusting. And more of us, especially quite frankly so-called Christians, should speak truth to power on this point.