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Is Obama's Peace Prize Premature?

Just peace theory proceeds from the premise that peace is a day by day effort. It is a process that requires vision, skill, and courage. The Nobel Committee awarded its 2009 Prize for Peace to President Barack Obama. He had been in office for only a few weeks when the nominations for the prize closed. He has been in office less than a year upon receiving this honor. The question: Is the prize premature?

During the presidential campaign, candidate Obama took heat for his insistence that diplomacy meant talking to one's enemies without preconditions. He acknowledged that United States foreign policy had not been flawless. Our nation has made mistakes that have cause harm. While he said he would continue U.S. efforts against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, he also spoke of removing U.S. combat troops from Iraq. He spoke of international engagement and working with the world to solve problems.

A majority of the American people endorsed his ideas and made him the first African-American president of the United States. People across the globe paused and celebrated his inauguration, a singular and unique event. Since becoming president, he has continued to speak the truth about America's responsibility for suffering in the world. He has also articulated a just peace paradigm shift from "power over" to "power with" regarding international affairs. Respect for the importance of other people in the world is an important aspect of just peace theory.

President Obama has underlined the necessity of nations working together. It is an understanding that power is everywhere and that everyone has a role in making peace. In his first speech before the UN General Assembly, he said: "We must embrace a new era of engagement based on mutual interests and mutual respect, and our work must begin now."

Early in his administration, he reached out to the Muslim world. Like Nobel Peace Prize winner Martin Luther King Jr., he spoke of the world's interdependence, a network of mutuality. In his speech in Cairo, he said: "Given our interdependence, any world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will inevitably fail. So, whatever we think of the past, we must not be prisoners of it. Our problems must be dealt with through partnership; progress must be shared."

With that same commitment to international cooperation, President Obama chaired the UN Security Council and put the force of the United States behind an effort toward an end of nuclear proliferation.

The prize recognizes President Obama's "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples." The chair of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, Thorbjorn Jagland, said: "We hope this will enhance what he is trying to do."

The Nobel Committee gave the prize to President Obama in part because of his vision. It said: "The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons." Wisdom teaches that where there is no vision the people perish. The Nobel Committee has recognized that President Obama is a man with a vision -- with the skill to articulate it and the courage to pursue it. It has given him a just peace prize.

Dr. Valerie Elverton Dixon is an independent scholar who publishes lectures and essays at JustPeaceTheory.com. She received her Ph.D. in religion and society from Temple University and taught Christian ethics at United Theological Seminary and Andover Newton Theological School.

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by: Ivriniel

10-09-2009 @ 4:49pm

Personally, I think it's a little early for him to be getting the Nobel Peace Prize. The steps he has taken are laudable, but I find it hard to believe that out of the 205 nominees this year that he was the most deserving.

Seems to me that there are a lot of people and causes in that group who needed the money and publicity the Nobel Prize brings more that a President of the United States who has been in office for less than a year.

by: hammerud

10-09-2009 @ 5:52pm

It seems to say more about the committee that gave the prize than the recipient of the prize.

by: Eric77

10-09-2009 @ 6:11pm

This is so very fitting. Up until being elected President, Barack Obama was a man who main public accomplishment was positioning himself at the right place at the right time to move from one career enhancing job to the next. The expectations of others for his great achievements had always overshadowed his actual achievements. This award fits right into that paradigm. Except now there's nowhere else to move up to. President Obama is actually going to have to stick to doing the job of being President for at least four years.* It is then he should be judged and possibly awarded for his accomplishments. Awarding Obama this honor and the $1 million cash award** at this point merely for his words and aspirations and neglecting other worthy individuals who've toiled in anonymity and haven't sought the limelight is disappointing. But entirely fitting.

All this being said, Obama's comments in the Rose Garden were entirely appropriate. It's not he who's cheapened the award.

*Of course, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's term expires at the end of 2011. Perhaps President Obama will announce he is not running for re-election and, instead, will seek that job.

** Where's that windfall profits tax when you need it?

by: Eric77

10-09-2009 @ 6:18pm

Agreed.

by: Hannity2

10-09-2009 @ 6:29pm

It looks more and more like Jimmy Carter's second term every day.

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 6:57pm

In a sense, anyone's "Peace Prize" is premature, since there has never been a millenium when those who are peacemakers can rest on their laurels. Peace is always a work in progress, given the propensity of human beings to constantly see others as "enemy" who need to be killed.

We had an election, in which one side spoke of war without end as being the eternal price for "freedom," while another proposed moving to the possibility of international reconciliation after the failures of so many years to achieve "peace" through pre-emptive and endless war.

The pro-war side did not prevail in the election, which was simply the people's majority decision, but yet to be implemented.

There's a reason the pro-war side hates the President so viscerally and it's precisely because his rationality sees the endless war scenario they favor as futile and destructive to the majority's peace and security.

There's a reason Jerry Falwell and his followers never received a peace prize, despite supposedly emulating the Prince of Peace: his stated belief system was, "Kill them all, in the name of the Lord."

Some Americans need to look outside our now heavily-militarized borders, to see the human faces reflected there. An angry America, focused on dominance and revenge through violence, lashing out in ignorance, is how we appeared to many of the other 6.7 billion people on our shared planet, over the past 8 years.

Obama was being generous to our self-image, and to his predecessors, when he said that America has always been for peace. Now they and their followers ought to be as generous to him, and bask in the hope that the world, extending its good will to us, has in America finally living up to its noble founding documents.

by: squeaky

10-09-2009 @ 7:27pm

I wish they hadn't given it to him, and it is nothing against Obama. All it did was fuel the fire of Obama critics who already think he is being "worshipped" and rapturists who think he is the "anti-Christ." The reasons for awarding it to him may be valid (although I also think those working in the trenches were more deserving at this time), but those reasons are completely lost on his critics.

by: hammerud

10-09-2009 @ 7:32pm

I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture and Obama is not the anti-Christ.

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 7:35pm

The stakes are too high for those who think otherwise than these critics to be letting them set the agenda out of fear of offending them.

One might as well have made the same arguments against Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement, nonviolent though it was - and in fact, those same arguments were made, that rocking the boat for peace creates conflict from those who are firmly entrenched in the unjust status quo.

Peace does not mean being passive, it means forwardly seeking non-violent solutions to conflict, while refusing to demonize others who act or think in unjust ways as enemies.

by: NC77

10-09-2009 @ 7:51pm

We have a heavily-militarized border here in the U.S.? I watch both the left and the right news sources and haven't heard about it until now. If it is true, then hopefully illegal immigration will be on the decline.

by: squeaky

10-09-2009 @ 7:51pm

I don't disagree. But I also have a hard time thinking his less than a year in office accomplished enough to warrant it at this time. I'd rather he had many more tangible accomplishments to stand on (rather than stated ideals--I want to see the ideals in action) before such a prize was awarded, and I think he will. But I'm also concerned that a prize given this early will have the opposite of the desired effect, and strengthen his opponents so that he won't be able to accomplish as much as he hopes to.

And these are words I will gladly eat with an appetizer, a nice beverage, and a wonderful dessert.

by: junglecat

10-09-2009 @ 7:53pm

President Obama and the Peace Prize deserve one another: They are both trivial farces of self-congratulation.

by: xfree9

10-09-2009 @ 8:10pm

Yeah, a little premature. Apparently Obama himself was a bit surprised, maybe perplexed. Let's hope he stands by his commitments. Currently he doesn't have a great track record.

by: Ivriniel

10-09-2009 @ 4:49pm

Personally, I think it's a little early for him to be getting the Nobel Peace Prize. The steps he has taken are laudable, but I find it hard to believe that out of the 205 nominees this year that he was the most deserving.

Seems to me that there are a lot of people and causes in that group who needed the money and publicity the Nobel Prize brings more that a President of the United States who has been in office for less than a year.

by: ando

10-09-2009 @ 8:28pm

I'd like to see peace start here at home, like on the streets of Chicago where teenage honor students die in turf wars. Many areas in this country are a powder keg waiting to explode. It's the silent issue that some would rather sweep under the rug. I'd like to see Obama, Duncan and Holder continue to work on this stemming violence that is killing too many innocent teens, let alone those who are hell-bent for destruction.

by: drclaude

10-09-2009 @ 8:44pm

Depending on your definition of peace, Obama deserves his prize or not. He likely deserves it based on a definition of peace as expressed in this blog post. Ultimately, a peaceful world is simply the result of peaceful individuals; such individuals are generally not inclined to do the kinds of things that perturb societal peace. Obama may have been elected (and his election may have been cheered by many all over the world) because more people everywhere have more peace inside, and this prize thus represents an acknowledgement of this rise in inner peace in a greater number of individuals around the world.

by: SisterMarie

10-09-2009 @ 9:09pm

I think that the award more accurately represents a repudiation of the Bush administration and the policies it has pursued over the past 8 years. And I think that those who desire peace breathed a huge collective sigh of relief at the prospect that this nation will not invade other sovereign nations who have not attacked us and who represent no credible to us.

by: Kurt Walker

10-09-2009 @ 9:14pm

As I heard the news very early this morning, my knee-jerk reaction was - it's too early.
Although I am a staunch Obama supporter, I feel as though his first nine months in office has been more a time of promise and potential than it has been about promised goals realized. I am hopeful for the potential of the next three years and I am confident that some of the Administration's goals will be achieved. That being said, his Peace Prize was delivered on his diplomacy efforts over teh last nine months and not his success at achiving peace.
Of Obama's diplomacy efforts, he is to be congratulated. He has, in less than a year, opened the U.S. to the idea of being able to discuss with other nations of the world; indeed, a patience to be able to listen and be present at the table with others.
That being said, Obama has failed to achieve his goals in relation to the War on Terror. Men and women are still dying. In fact, the death toll in Afghanistan for July, August and September were the three deadliest months for US troops in that country since the war began eight years ago. The Department of Defense's death toll rest's at 5,217.
The US has spent an average of 9,568,547,189.31 a week since the war has begun and we are quickly getting to a trillion dollars spent. As of 6:58 this evening the US has spent $918,584,528,468. Per very Per every town, borough and county in the US (25,375), that's $36,200,375.56 spent. How else could that money have been spent? Healthcare reform, the banking scandel, the car industry, diplomatic efforts increased via economic means such as trade, homelessness, education, helping the poor and destitute in the US and globally, the environment, infrastructure repairs. The list can go on forever.
Understanding that Obama is not our panacea; that he is not our solution to all of life's problems, I believe it best to award the Peace Prize for goals achieved rather than hopes percieved. "We will get there, yes we can" was a familiar slogan of the Obama Campaign. The truth is, we CAN get there, but we are not even close to being there yet.
I am hopeful of Obama's initial response to the gift; that he was 'humbled' by it. My continued hope is that he will refuse it and say something to the effect of. "I am honored to have been bestowed the Nobel eace Prize for Diplomacy. At this time, I must refuse this Prize as I feel I have not succeeded enough yet in the goals that I have set out for this Administration. I hope though, that in time, my future achievement will merit such a esteemed honor. Give me more time and I will work even harder to be worthy of Dr. Nobel's notice."
This would be a sign of humility and grace that would be worthy of a man who knows that there is still so much work to do. To talk is one thing, to walk is still another.
President Obama will walk, soon, but at this point, he is stilll crawling and he will be the first to tell you that.

Kurt Walker

by: hammerud

10-09-2009 @ 5:52pm

It seems to say more about the committee that gave the prize than the recipient of the prize.

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 9:22pm

You ought to get out more. TV is no substitute for seeing for yourself.

Naturally the xenophobic lobby, with its eternal hobby horse of hated immigrants comes up with visions of an unrighteous army of heavily armed Know-Nothing denizens defending "us" from "them" - Emma Lazarus' "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Try thinking "Wall Street" instead of some poor person just trying to feed his family, for our nation's current woes.

If you are a Christian, do you love immigrants?

If so, how are you expressing your love for them?

by: Eric77

10-09-2009 @ 6:11pm

This is so very fitting. Up until being elected President, Barack Obama was a man who main public accomplishment was positioning himself at the right place at the right time to move from one career enhancing job to the next. The expectations of others for his great achievements had always overshadowed his actual achievements. This award fits right into that paradigm. Except now there's nowhere else to move up to. President Obama is actually going to have to stick to doing the job of being President for at least four years.* It is then he should be judged and possibly awarded for his accomplishments. Awarding Obama this honor and the $1 million cash award** at this point merely for his words and aspirations and neglecting other worthy individuals who've toiled in anonymity and haven't sought the limelight is disappointing. But entirely fitting.

All this being said, Obama's comments in the Rose Garden were entirely appropriate. It's not he who's cheapened the award.

*Of course, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's term expires at the end of 2011. Perhaps President Obama will announce he is not running for re-election and, instead, will seek that job.

** Where's that windfall profits tax when you need it?

by: Eric77

10-09-2009 @ 6:18pm

Agreed.

by: Hannity2

10-09-2009 @ 6:29pm

It looks more and more like Jimmy Carter's second term every day.

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 6:57pm

In a sense, anyone's "Peace Prize" is premature, since there has never been a millenium when those who are peacemakers can rest on their laurels. Peace is always a work in progress, given the propensity of human beings to constantly see others as "enemy" who need to be killed.

We had an election, in which one side spoke of war without end as being the eternal price for "freedom," while another proposed moving to the possibility of international reconciliation after the failures of so many years to achieve "peace" through pre-emptive and endless war.

The pro-war side did not prevail in the election, which was simply the people's majority decision, but yet to be implemented.

There's a reason the pro-war side hates the President so viscerally and it's precisely because his rationality sees the endless war scenario they favor as futile and destructive to the majority's peace and security.

There's a reason Jerry Falwell and his followers never received a peace prize, despite supposedly emulating the Prince of Peace: his stated belief system was, "Kill them all, in the name of the Lord."

Some Americans need to look outside our now heavily-militarized borders, to see the human faces reflected there. An angry America, focused on dominance and revenge through violence, lashing out in ignorance, is how we appeared to many of the other 6.7 billion people on our shared planet, over the past 8 years.

Obama was being generous to our self-image, and to his predecessors, when he said that America has always been for peace. Now they and their followers ought to be as generous to him, and bask in the hope that the world, extending its good will to us, has in America finally living up to its noble founding documents.

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 10:07pm

Refusing the prize would play into the hands of those who claim the Peace Prize is nothing more than left-wing, foreign and worthless.

That would be an insult to the rest of the world, which wants to engage us as equals. It's an insult that neo-cons would love to make - an attitude that is very typical of their stated policy of "tossing some crappy little country up against the wall every few years to prove America's number one."

by: squeaky

10-09-2009 @ 7:27pm

I wish they hadn't given it to him, and it is nothing against Obama. All it did was fuel the fire of Obama critics who already think he is being "worshipped" and rapturists who think he is the "anti-Christ." The reasons for awarding it to him may be valid (although I also think those working in the trenches were more deserving at this time), but those reasons are completely lost on his critics.

by: hammerud

10-09-2009 @ 7:32pm

I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture and Obama is not the anti-Christ.

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 7:35pm

The stakes are too high for those who think otherwise than these critics to be letting them set the agenda out of fear of offending them.

One might as well have made the same arguments against Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement, nonviolent though it was - and in fact, those same arguments were made, that rocking the boat for peace creates conflict from those who are firmly entrenched in the unjust status quo.

Peace does not mean being passive, it means forwardly seeking non-violent solutions to conflict, while refusing to demonize others who act or think in unjust ways as enemies.

by: jkc1945

10-09-2009 @ 10:17pm

Well said in just a few words, junglecat. The prize is totally political, and so is Obama. A constant campaigner, he has received an award for giving 62 or 63 speeches in about 9 months. Whoop-tee-doo!!

by: NC77

10-09-2009 @ 7:51pm

We have a heavily-militarized border here in the U.S.? I watch both the left and the right news sources and haven't heard about it until now. If it is true, then hopefully illegal immigration will be on the decline.

by: squeaky

10-09-2009 @ 7:51pm

I don't disagree. But I also have a hard time thinking his less than a year in office accomplished enough to warrant it at this time. I'd rather he had many more tangible accomplishments to stand on (rather than stated ideals--I want to see the ideals in action) before such a prize was awarded, and I think he will. But I'm also concerned that a prize given this early will have the opposite of the desired effect, and strengthen his opponents so that he won't be able to accomplish as much as he hopes to.

And these are words I will gladly eat with an appetizer, a nice beverage, and a wonderful dessert.

by: junglecat

10-09-2009 @ 7:53pm

President Obama and the Peace Prize deserve one another: They are both trivial farces of self-congratulation.

by: xfree9

10-09-2009 @ 8:10pm

Yeah, a little premature. Apparently Obama himself was a bit surprised, maybe perplexed. Let's hope he stands by his commitments. Currently he doesn't have a great track record.

by: ando

10-09-2009 @ 8:28pm

I'd like to see peace start here at home, like on the streets of Chicago where teenage honor students die in turf wars. Many areas in this country are a powder keg waiting to explode. It's the silent issue that some would rather sweep under the rug. I'd like to see Obama, Duncan and Holder continue to work on this stemming violence that is killing too many innocent teens, let alone those who are hell-bent for destruction.

by: Mennoman

10-09-2009 @ 11:31pm

Well if he is the Anti-Christ, I am looking forward to the first three and one half years of peace and prosperity. It should be enjoyable. We'll deal with the second three and one half years as they come. At least if we can hold out for seven years, we won't have to pay off the credit cards we ran up in the earlier years.

by: drclaude

10-09-2009 @ 8:44pm

Depending on your definition of peace, Obama deserves his prize or not. He likely deserves it based on a definition of peace as expressed in this blog post. Ultimately, a peaceful world is simply the result of peaceful individuals; such individuals are generally not inclined to do the kinds of things that perturb societal peace. Obama may have been elected (and his election may have been cheered by many all over the world) because more people everywhere have more peace inside, and this prize thus represents an acknowledgement of this rise in inner peace in a greater number of individuals around the world.

by: Mennoman

10-09-2009 @ 11:33pm

I believe in a post-partem rapture and that Obama was born in Hawaii.

by: SisterMarie

10-09-2009 @ 9:09pm

I think that the award more accurately represents a repudiation of the Bush administration and the policies it has pursued over the past 8 years. And I think that those who desire peace breathed a huge collective sigh of relief at the prospect that this nation will not invade other sovereign nations who have not attacked us and who represent no credible to us.

by: junglecat

10-10-2009 @ 12:00am

If criteria for the Peace Prize committee this year were seriousness AND that it be given to an American, than they should have given the prize to Secretary Gates or General David Petraeus. They've done much more to promote world peace than President Obama.

by: Kurt Walker

10-09-2009 @ 9:14pm

As I heard the news very early this morning, my knee-jerk reaction was - it's too early.
Although I am a staunch Obama supporter, I feel as though his first nine months in office has been more a time of promise and potential than it has been about promised goals realized. I am hopeful for the potential of the next three years and I am confident that some of the Administration's goals will be achieved. That being said, his Peace Prize was delivered on his diplomacy efforts over teh last nine months and not his success at achiving peace.
Of Obama's diplomacy efforts, he is to be congratulated. He has, in less than a year, opened the U.S. to the idea of being able to discuss with other nations of the world; indeed, a patience to be able to listen and be present at the table with others.
That being said, Obama has failed to achieve his goals in relation to the War on Terror. Men and women are still dying. In fact, the death toll in Afghanistan for July, August and September were the three deadliest months for US troops in that country since the war began eight years ago. The Department of Defense's death toll rest's at 5,217.
The US has spent an average of 9,568,547,189.31 a week since the war has begun and we are quickly getting to a trillion dollars spent. As of 6:58 this evening the US has spent $918,584,528,468. Per very Per every town, borough and county in the US (25,375), that's $36,200,375.56 spent. How else could that money have been spent? Healthcare reform, the banking scandel, the car industry, diplomatic efforts increased via economic means such as trade, homelessness, education, helping the poor and destitute in the US and globally, the environment, infrastructure repairs. The list can go on forever.
Understanding that Obama is not our panacea; that he is not our solution to all of life's problems, I believe it best to award the Peace Prize for goals achieved rather than hopes percieved. "We will get there, yes we can" was a familiar slogan of the Obama Campaign. The truth is, we CAN get there, but we are not even close to being there yet.
I am hopeful of Obama's initial response to the gift; that he was 'humbled' by it. My continued hope is that he will refuse it and say something to the effect of. "I am honored to have been bestowed the Nobel eace Prize for Diplomacy. At this time, I must refuse this Prize as I feel I have not succeeded enough yet in the goals that I have set out for this Administration. I hope though, that in time, my future achievement will merit such a esteemed honor. Give me more time and I will work even harder to be worthy of Dr. Nobel's notice."
This would be a sign of humility and grace that would be worthy of a man who knows that there is still so much work to do. To talk is one thing, to walk is still another.
President Obama will walk, soon, but at this point, he is stilll crawling and he will be the first to tell you that.

Kurt Walker

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 9:22pm

You ought to get out more. TV is no substitute for seeing for yourself.

Naturally the xenophobic lobby, with its eternal hobby horse of hated immigrants comes up with visions of an unrighteous army of heavily armed Know-Nothing denizens defending "us" from "them" - Emma Lazarus' "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Try thinking "Wall Street" instead of some poor person just trying to feed his family, for our nation's current woes.

If you are a Christian, do you love immigrants?

If so, how are you expressing your love for them?

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 10:07pm

Refusing the prize would play into the hands of those who claim the Peace Prize is nothing more than left-wing, foreign and worthless.

That would be an insult to the rest of the world, which wants to engage us as equals. It's an insult that neo-cons would love to make - an attitude that is very typical of their stated policy of "tossing some crappy little country up against the wall every few years to prove America's number one."

by: irish_annie

10-10-2009 @ 3:07am

yes, and considering they gave it to carter in '02, gore in '07 and now obama in '09 when he's really done nothing, it's more about the committee trying to influence US politics and sticking their finger in bush's eye. interesting that reagan, who ended the cold war, never received the peace prize...

by: Grad_student

10-10-2009 @ 5:36am

Pesonally, I am getting tired of Obama news day after day after day. Today was like the "straw that broke the camel's back" for both me and my fiance. I would like to see a lot more action from the President, and a lot less air time and congratulatory fawning from his fans. He is still in campaign mode, and he is still the "not present" guy from the Senate.

by: jkc1945

10-09-2009 @ 10:17pm

Well said in just a few words, junglecat. The prize is totally political, and so is Obama. A constant campaigner, he has received an award for giving 62 or 63 speeches in about 9 months. Whoop-tee-doo!!

by: hammerud

10-10-2009 @ 10:07am

Agree

by: kansasmennonite

10-10-2009 @ 12:35pm

That's funny. Was there a typo in there?

by: kansasmennonite

10-10-2009 @ 12:41pm

You been listening to Rush again?

by: Mennoman

10-09-2009 @ 11:31pm

Well if he is the Anti-Christ, I am looking forward to the first three and one half years of peace and prosperity. It should be enjoyable. We'll deal with the second three and one half years as they come. At least if we can hold out for seven years, we won't have to pay off the credit cards we ran up in the earlier years.

by: Mennoman

10-09-2009 @ 11:33pm

I believe in a post-partem rapture and that Obama was born in Hawaii.

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by: Ivriniel

10-09-2009 @ 4:49pm

Personally, I think it's a little early for him to be getting the Nobel Peace Prize. The steps he has taken are laudable, but I find it hard to believe that out of the 205 nominees this year that he was the most deserving.

Seems to me that there are a lot of people and causes in that group who needed the money and publicity the Nobel Prize brings more that a President of the United States who has been in office for less than a year.

by: Ivriniel

10-09-2009 @ 4:49pm

Personally, I think it's a little early for him to be getting the Nobel Peace Prize. The steps he has taken are laudable, but I find it hard to believe that out of the 205 nominees this year that he was the most deserving.

Seems to me that there are a lot of people and causes in that group who needed the money and publicity the Nobel Prize brings more that a President of the United States who has been in office for less than a year.

by: hammerud

10-09-2009 @ 5:52pm

It seems to say more about the committee that gave the prize than the recipient of the prize.

by: hammerud

10-09-2009 @ 5:52pm

It seems to say more about the committee that gave the prize than the recipient of the prize.

by: Eric77

10-09-2009 @ 6:11pm

This is so very fitting. Up until being elected President, Barack Obama was a man who main public accomplishment was positioning himself at the right place at the right time to move from one career enhancing job to the next. The expectations of others for his great achievements had always overshadowed his actual achievements. This award fits right into that paradigm. Except now there's nowhere else to move up to. President Obama is actually going to have to stick to doing the job of being President for at least four years.* It is then he should be judged and possibly awarded for his accomplishments. Awarding Obama this honor and the $1 million cash award** at this point merely for his words and aspirations and neglecting other worthy individuals who've toiled in anonymity and haven't sought the limelight is disappointing. But entirely fitting.

All this being said, Obama's comments in the Rose Garden were entirely appropriate. It's not he who's cheapened the award.

*Of course, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's term expires at the end of 2011. Perhaps President Obama will announce he is not running for re-election and, instead, will seek that job.

** Where's that windfall profits tax when you need it?

by: Eric77

10-09-2009 @ 6:11pm

This is so very fitting. Up until being elected President, Barack Obama was a man who main public accomplishment was positioning himself at the right place at the right time to move from one career enhancing job to the next. The expectations of others for his great achievements had always overshadowed his actual achievements. This award fits right into that paradigm. Except now there's nowhere else to move up to. President Obama is actually going to have to stick to doing the job of being President for at least four years.* It is then he should be judged and possibly awarded for his accomplishments. Awarding Obama this honor and the $1 million cash award** at this point merely for his words and aspirations and neglecting other worthy individuals who've toiled in anonymity and haven't sought the limelight is disappointing. But entirely fitting.

All this being said, Obama's comments in the Rose Garden were entirely appropriate. It's not he who's cheapened the award.

*Of course, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's term expires at the end of 2011. Perhaps President Obama will announce he is not running for re-election and, instead, will seek that job.

** Where's that windfall profits tax when you need it?

by: Eric77

10-09-2009 @ 6:18pm

Agreed.

by: Eric77

10-09-2009 @ 6:18pm

Agreed.

by: Hannity2

10-09-2009 @ 6:29pm

It looks more and more like Jimmy Carter's second term every day.

by: Hannity2

10-09-2009 @ 6:29pm

It looks more and more like Jimmy Carter's second term every day.

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 6:57pm

In a sense, anyone's "Peace Prize" is premature, since there has never been a millenium when those who are peacemakers can rest on their laurels. Peace is always a work in progress, given the propensity of human beings to constantly see others as "enemy" who need to be killed.

We had an election, in which one side spoke of war without end as being the eternal price for "freedom," while another proposed moving to the possibility of international reconciliation after the failures of so many years to achieve "peace" through pre-emptive and endless war.

The pro-war side did not prevail in the election, which was simply the people's majority decision, but yet to be implemented.

There's a reason the pro-war side hates the President so viscerally and it's precisely because his rationality sees the endless war scenario they favor as futile and destructive to the majority's peace and security.

There's a reason Jerry Falwell and his followers never received a peace prize, despite supposedly emulating the Prince of Peace: his stated belief system was, "Kill them all, in the name of the Lord."

Some Americans need to look outside our now heavily-militarized borders, to see the human faces reflected there. An angry America, focused on dominance and revenge through violence, lashing out in ignorance, is how we appeared to many of the other 6.7 billion people on our shared planet, over the past 8 years.

Obama was being generous to our self-image, and to his predecessors, when he said that America has always been for peace. Now they and their followers ought to be as generous to him, and bask in the hope that the world, extending its good will to us, has in America finally living up to its noble founding documents.

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 6:57pm

In a sense, anyone's "Peace Prize" is premature, since there has never been a millenium when those who are peacemakers can rest on their laurels. Peace is always a work in progress, given the propensity of human beings to constantly see others as "enemy" who need to be killed.

We had an election, in which one side spoke of war without end as being the eternal price for "freedom," while another proposed moving to the possibility of international reconciliation after the failures of so many years to achieve "peace" through pre-emptive and endless war.

The pro-war side did not prevail in the election, which was simply the people's majority decision, but yet to be implemented.

There's a reason the pro-war side hates the President so viscerally and it's precisely because his rationality sees the endless war scenario they favor as futile and destructive to the majority's peace and security.

There's a reason Jerry Falwell and his followers never received a peace prize, despite supposedly emulating the Prince of Peace: his stated belief system was, "Kill them all, in the name of the Lord."

Some Americans need to look outside our now heavily-militarized borders, to see the human faces reflected there. An angry America, focused on dominance and revenge through violence, lashing out in ignorance, is how we appeared to many of the other 6.7 billion people on our shared planet, over the past 8 years.

Obama was being generous to our self-image, and to his predecessors, when he said that America has always been for peace. Now they and their followers ought to be as generous to him, and bask in the hope that the world, extending its good will to us, has in America finally living up to its noble founding documents.

by: squeaky

10-09-2009 @ 7:27pm

I wish they hadn't given it to him, and it is nothing against Obama. All it did was fuel the fire of Obama critics who already think he is being "worshipped" and rapturists who think he is the "anti-Christ." The reasons for awarding it to him may be valid (although I also think those working in the trenches were more deserving at this time), but those reasons are completely lost on his critics.

by: squeaky

10-09-2009 @ 7:27pm

I wish they hadn't given it to him, and it is nothing against Obama. All it did was fuel the fire of Obama critics who already think he is being "worshipped" and rapturists who think he is the "anti-Christ." The reasons for awarding it to him may be valid (although I also think those working in the trenches were more deserving at this time), but those reasons are completely lost on his critics.

by: hammerud

10-09-2009 @ 7:32pm

I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture and Obama is not the anti-Christ.

by: hammerud

10-09-2009 @ 7:32pm

I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture and Obama is not the anti-Christ.

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 7:35pm

The stakes are too high for those who think otherwise than these critics to be letting them set the agenda out of fear of offending them.

One might as well have made the same arguments against Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement, nonviolent though it was - and in fact, those same arguments were made, that rocking the boat for peace creates conflict from those who are firmly entrenched in the unjust status quo.

Peace does not mean being passive, it means forwardly seeking non-violent solutions to conflict, while refusing to demonize others who act or think in unjust ways as enemies.

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 7:35pm

The stakes are too high for those who think otherwise than these critics to be letting them set the agenda out of fear of offending them.

One might as well have made the same arguments against Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement, nonviolent though it was - and in fact, those same arguments were made, that rocking the boat for peace creates conflict from those who are firmly entrenched in the unjust status quo.

Peace does not mean being passive, it means forwardly seeking non-violent solutions to conflict, while refusing to demonize others who act or think in unjust ways as enemies.

by: NC77

10-09-2009 @ 7:51pm

We have a heavily-militarized border here in the U.S.? I watch both the left and the right news sources and haven't heard about it until now. If it is true, then hopefully illegal immigration will be on the decline.

by: NC77

10-09-2009 @ 7:51pm

We have a heavily-militarized border here in the U.S.? I watch both the left and the right news sources and haven't heard about it until now. If it is true, then hopefully illegal immigration will be on the decline.

by: squeaky

10-09-2009 @ 7:51pm

I don't disagree. But I also have a hard time thinking his less than a year in office accomplished enough to warrant it at this time. I'd rather he had many more tangible accomplishments to stand on (rather than stated ideals--I want to see the ideals in action) before such a prize was awarded, and I think he will. But I'm also concerned that a prize given this early will have the opposite of the desired effect, and strengthen his opponents so that he won't be able to accomplish as much as he hopes to.

And these are words I will gladly eat with an appetizer, a nice beverage, and a wonderful dessert.

by: squeaky

10-09-2009 @ 7:51pm

I don't disagree. But I also have a hard time thinking his less than a year in office accomplished enough to warrant it at this time. I'd rather he had many more tangible accomplishments to stand on (rather than stated ideals--I want to see the ideals in action) before such a prize was awarded, and I think he will. But I'm also concerned that a prize given this early will have the opposite of the desired effect, and strengthen his opponents so that he won't be able to accomplish as much as he hopes to.

And these are words I will gladly eat with an appetizer, a nice beverage, and a wonderful dessert.

by: junglecat

10-09-2009 @ 7:53pm

President Obama and the Peace Prize deserve one another: They are both trivial farces of self-congratulation.

by: junglecat

10-09-2009 @ 7:53pm

President Obama and the Peace Prize deserve one another: They are both trivial farces of self-congratulation.

by: xfree9

10-09-2009 @ 8:10pm

Yeah, a little premature. Apparently Obama himself was a bit surprised, maybe perplexed. Let's hope he stands by his commitments. Currently he doesn't have a great track record.

by: xfree9

10-09-2009 @ 8:10pm

Yeah, a little premature. Apparently Obama himself was a bit surprised, maybe perplexed. Let's hope he stands by his commitments. Currently he doesn't have a great track record.

by: ando

10-09-2009 @ 8:28pm

I'd like to see peace start here at home, like on the streets of Chicago where teenage honor students die in turf wars. Many areas in this country are a powder keg waiting to explode. It's the silent issue that some would rather sweep under the rug. I'd like to see Obama, Duncan and Holder continue to work on this stemming violence that is killing too many innocent teens, let alone those who are hell-bent for destruction.

by: ando

10-09-2009 @ 8:28pm

I'd like to see peace start here at home, like on the streets of Chicago where teenage honor students die in turf wars. Many areas in this country are a powder keg waiting to explode. It's the silent issue that some would rather sweep under the rug. I'd like to see Obama, Duncan and Holder continue to work on this stemming violence that is killing too many innocent teens, let alone those who are hell-bent for destruction.

by: drclaude

10-09-2009 @ 8:44pm

Depending on your definition of peace, Obama deserves his prize or not. He likely deserves it based on a definition of peace as expressed in this blog post. Ultimately, a peaceful world is simply the result of peaceful individuals; such individuals are generally not inclined to do the kinds of things that perturb societal peace. Obama may have been elected (and his election may have been cheered by many all over the world) because more people everywhere have more peace inside, and this prize thus represents an acknowledgement of this rise in inner peace in a greater number of individuals around the world.

by: drclaude

10-09-2009 @ 8:44pm

Depending on your definition of peace, Obama deserves his prize or not. He likely deserves it based on a definition of peace as expressed in this blog post. Ultimately, a peaceful world is simply the result of peaceful individuals; such individuals are generally not inclined to do the kinds of things that perturb societal peace. Obama may have been elected (and his election may have been cheered by many all over the world) because more people everywhere have more peace inside, and this prize thus represents an acknowledgement of this rise in inner peace in a greater number of individuals around the world.

by: SisterMarie

10-09-2009 @ 9:09pm

I think that the award more accurately represents a repudiation of the Bush administration and the policies it has pursued over the past 8 years. And I think that those who desire peace breathed a huge collective sigh of relief at the prospect that this nation will not invade other sovereign nations who have not attacked us and who represent no credible to us.

by: SisterMarie

10-09-2009 @ 9:09pm

I think that the award more accurately represents a repudiation of the Bush administration and the policies it has pursued over the past 8 years. And I think that those who desire peace breathed a huge collective sigh of relief at the prospect that this nation will not invade other sovereign nations who have not attacked us and who represent no credible to us.

by: Kurt Walker

10-09-2009 @ 9:14pm

As I heard the news very early this morning, my knee-jerk reaction was - it's too early.
Although I am a staunch Obama supporter, I feel as though his first nine months in office has been more a time of promise and potential than it has been about promised goals realized. I am hopeful for the potential of the next three years and I am confident that some of the Administration's goals will be achieved. That being said, his Peace Prize was delivered on his diplomacy efforts over teh last nine months and not his success at achiving peace.
Of Obama's diplomacy efforts, he is to be congratulated. He has, in less than a year, opened the U.S. to the idea of being able to discuss with other nations of the world; indeed, a patience to be able to listen and be present at the table with others.
That being said, Obama has failed to achieve his goals in relation to the War on Terror. Men and women are still dying. In fact, the death toll in Afghanistan for July, August and September were the three deadliest months for US troops in that country since the war began eight years ago. The Department of Defense's death toll rest's at 5,217.
The US has spent an average of 9,568,547,189.31 a week since the war has begun and we are quickly getting to a trillion dollars spent. As of 6:58 this evening the US has spent $918,584,528,468. Per very Per every town, borough and county in the US (25,375), that's $36,200,375.56 spent. How else could that money have been spent? Healthcare reform, the banking scandel, the car industry, diplomatic efforts increased via economic means such as trade, homelessness, education, helping the poor and destitute in the US and globally, the environment, infrastructure repairs. The list can go on forever.
Understanding that Obama is not our panacea; that he is not our solution to all of life's problems, I believe it best to award the Peace Prize for goals achieved rather than hopes percieved. "We will get there, yes we can" was a familiar slogan of the Obama Campaign. The truth is, we CAN get there, but we are not even close to being there yet.
I am hopeful of Obama's initial response to the gift; that he was 'humbled' by it. My continued hope is that he will refuse it and say something to the effect of. "I am honored to have been bestowed the Nobel eace Prize for Diplomacy. At this time, I must refuse this Prize as I feel I have not succeeded enough yet in the goals that I have set out for this Administration. I hope though, that in time, my future achievement will merit such a esteemed honor. Give me more time and I will work even harder to be worthy of Dr. Nobel's notice."
This would be a sign of humility and grace that would be worthy of a man who knows that there is still so much work to do. To talk is one thing, to walk is still another.
President Obama will walk, soon, but at this point, he is stilll crawling and he will be the first to tell you that.

Kurt Walker

by: Kurt Walker

10-09-2009 @ 9:14pm

As I heard the news very early this morning, my knee-jerk reaction was - it's too early.
Although I am a staunch Obama supporter, I feel as though his first nine months in office has been more a time of promise and potential than it has been about promised goals realized. I am hopeful for the potential of the next three years and I am confident that some of the Administration's goals will be achieved. That being said, his Peace Prize was delivered on his diplomacy efforts over teh last nine months and not his success at achiving peace.
Of Obama's diplomacy efforts, he is to be congratulated. He has, in less than a year, opened the U.S. to the idea of being able to discuss with other nations of the world; indeed, a patience to be able to listen and be present at the table with others.
That being said, Obama has failed to achieve his goals in relation to the War on Terror. Men and women are still dying. In fact, the death toll in Afghanistan for July, August and September were the three deadliest months for US troops in that country since the war began eight years ago. The Department of Defense's death toll rest's at 5,217.
The US has spent an average of 9,568,547,189.31 a week since the war has begun and we are quickly getting to a trillion dollars spent. As of 6:58 this evening the US has spent $918,584,528,468. Per very Per every town, borough and county in the US (25,375), that's $36,200,375.56 spent. How else could that money have been spent? Healthcare reform, the banking scandel, the car industry, diplomatic efforts increased via economic means such as trade, homelessness, education, helping the poor and destitute in the US and globally, the environment, infrastructure repairs. The list can go on forever.
Understanding that Obama is not our panacea; that he is not our solution to all of life's problems, I believe it best to award the Peace Prize for goals achieved rather than hopes percieved. "We will get there, yes we can" was a familiar slogan of the Obama Campaign. The truth is, we CAN get there, but we are not even close to being there yet.
I am hopeful of Obama's initial response to the gift; that he was 'humbled' by it. My continued hope is that he will refuse it and say something to the effect of. "I am honored to have been bestowed the Nobel eace Prize for Diplomacy. At this time, I must refuse this Prize as I feel I have not succeeded enough yet in the goals that I have set out for this Administration. I hope though, that in time, my future achievement will merit such a esteemed honor. Give me more time and I will work even harder to be worthy of Dr. Nobel's notice."
This would be a sign of humility and grace that would be worthy of a man who knows that there is still so much work to do. To talk is one thing, to walk is still another.
President Obama will walk, soon, but at this point, he is stilll crawling and he will be the first to tell you that.

Kurt Walker

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 9:22pm

You ought to get out more. TV is no substitute for seeing for yourself.

Naturally the xenophobic lobby, with its eternal hobby horse of hated immigrants comes up with visions of an unrighteous army of heavily armed Know-Nothing denizens defending "us" from "them" - Emma Lazarus' "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Try thinking "Wall Street" instead of some poor person just trying to feed his family, for our nation's current woes.

If you are a Christian, do you love immigrants?

If so, how are you expressing your love for them?

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 9:22pm

You ought to get out more. TV is no substitute for seeing for yourself.

Naturally the xenophobic lobby, with its eternal hobby horse of hated immigrants comes up with visions of an unrighteous army of heavily armed Know-Nothing denizens defending "us" from "them" - Emma Lazarus' "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Try thinking "Wall Street" instead of some poor person just trying to feed his family, for our nation's current woes.

If you are a Christian, do you love immigrants?

If so, how are you expressing your love for them?

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 10:07pm

Refusing the prize would play into the hands of those who claim the Peace Prize is nothing more than left-wing, foreign and worthless.

That would be an insult to the rest of the world, which wants to engage us as equals. It's an insult that neo-cons would love to make - an attitude that is very typical of their stated policy of "tossing some crappy little country up against the wall every few years to prove America's number one."

by: NMRod

10-09-2009 @ 10:07pm

Refusing the prize would play into the hands of those who claim the Peace Prize is nothing more than left-wing, foreign and worthless.

That would be an insult to the rest of the world, which wants to engage us as equals. It's an insult that neo-cons would love to make - an attitude that is very typical of their stated policy of "tossing some crappy little country up against the wall every few years to prove America's number one."

by: jkc1945

10-09-2009 @ 10:17pm

Well said in just a few words, junglecat. The prize is totally political, and so is Obama. A constant campaigner, he has received an award for giving 62 or 63 speeches in about 9 months. Whoop-tee-doo!!

by: jkc1945

10-09-2009 @ 10:17pm

Well said in just a few words, junglecat. The prize is totally political, and so is Obama. A constant campaigner, he has received an award for giving 62 or 63 speeches in about 9 months. Whoop-tee-doo!!

by: Mennoman

10-09-2009 @ 11:31pm

Well if he is the Anti-Christ, I am looking forward to the first three and one half years of peace and prosperity. It should be enjoyable. We'll deal with the second three and one half years as they come. At least if we can hold out for seven years, we won't have to pay off the credit cards we ran up in the earlier years.

by: Mennoman

10-09-2009 @ 11:31pm

Well if he is the Anti-Christ, I am looking forward to the first three and one half years of peace and prosperity. It should be enjoyable. We'll deal with the second three and one half years as they come. At least if we can hold out for seven years, we won't have to pay off the credit cards we ran up in the earlier years.

by: Mennoman

10-09-2009 @ 11:33pm

I believe in a post-partem rapture and that Obama was born in Hawaii.

by: Mennoman

10-09-2009 @ 11:33pm

I believe in a post-partem rapture and that Obama was born in Hawaii.

by: junglecat

10-10-2009 @ 12:00am

If criteria for the Peace Prize committee this year were seriousness AND that it be given to an American, than they should have given the prize to Secretary Gates or General David Petraeus. They've done much more to promote world peace than President Obama.

by: junglecat

10-10-2009 @ 12:00am

If criteria for the Peace Prize committee this year were seriousness AND that it be given to an American, than they should have given the prize to Secretary Gates or General David Petraeus. They've done much more to promote world peace than President Obama.

by: irish_annie

10-10-2009 @ 3:07am

yes, and considering they gave it to carter in '02, gore in '07 and now obama in '09 when he's really done nothing, it's more about the committee trying to influence US politics and sticking their finger in bush's eye. interesting that reagan, who ended the cold war, never received the peace prize...

by: irish_annie

10-10-2009 @ 3:07am

yes, and considering they gave it to carter in '02, gore in '07 and now obama in '09 when he's really done nothing, it's more about the committee trying to influence US politics and sticking their finger in bush's eye. interesting that reagan, who ended the cold war, never received the peace prize...

by: Grad_student

10-10-2009 @ 5:36am

Pesonally, I am getting tired of Obama news day after day after day. Today was like the "straw that broke the camel's back" for both me and my fiance. I would like to see a lot more action from the President, and a lot less air time and congratulatory fawning from his fans. He is still in campaign mode, and he is still the "not present" guy from the Senate.

by: Grad_student

10-10-2009 @ 5:36am

Pesonally, I am getting tired of Obama news day after day after day. Today was like the "straw that broke the camel's back" for both me and my fiance. I would like to see a lot more action from the President, and a lot less air time and congratulatory fawning from his fans. He is still in campaign mode, and he is still the "not present" guy from the Senate.