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Paying Attention to Climate Change

Unlike the health-care debate, which touches each and every person in our country on the basic premise of their own, personal health, the issue of climate change can seem easy to dismiss as too scientific, too technical, or too boring for the average person to spend much time thinking about.

I am inclined to agree with this sentiment -- especially after reading particularly laborious portions of the climate change bill passed by the House earlier this summer! International regulations, industry standards, and emission sequestration are a bit abstract for my daily attention

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by: Mennoman

10-16-2009 @ 11:45pm

"Interesting name considering most progressive Christians seem to believe in evolution." Hannity2

Not really. They are capable of using metaphors and symbols. They are capable of abstract thinking.

by: BuckeyeDon

10-17-2009 @ 11:24pm

Sounds yummy, Squeaky! Can I have some?

by: facebook-1363553490

10-17-2009 @ 10:24pm

"Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways."

I have to disagree with this one. In my view, creation stories are meant to teach why we're here, what we're supposed to be doing, and why the world is the way it is. You don't have to believe in a literal talking snake to understand that this story has a profound message for God's followers.

by: Mennoman

10-16-2009 @ 11:45pm

"Interesting name considering most progressive Christians seem to believe in evolution." Hannity2

Not really. They are capable of using metaphors and symbols. They are capable of abstract thinking.

by: itsafreeman

10-17-2009 @ 10:38am

Perpetuating poverty increases the consolidation of power in a few hands. The lust for power guides many people to join forces. "Tacit collusion" was a term I learned in marketing class. The trial of Christ was certainly a "conspiracy." Perhaps the Cabalists like to label people who see through their agendas as "conspiracy theorists." Al Gore was deliberately deceitful when he claimed increased CO2 levels precede increased atmospheric temperatures, instead of the other way around. That is scientific FACT.

Many scientists are influenced by the financial rewards of supporting the global warming theory. No one who criticizes the theory gets grant money. The end result of cap and trade carbon credits will be to perpetuate poverty. If you want to understand more, you might begin by looking at the information questioning the global warming theory. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=...
The founder of the Weather Channel has spoken out against the Global Warming theory.

Check the evidence, then form an opinion. The Global Warming movement operates as if the opposition is a conspiracy of vested interests in oil, etc.

by: facebook-1363553490

10-17-2009 @ 8:24pm

"Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways."

I have to disagree with this one. In my view, creation stories are meant to teach why we're here, what we're supposed to be doing, and why the world is the way it is. You don't have to believe in a literal talking snake to understand that this story has a profound message for God's followers.

by: BuckeyeDon

10-17-2009 @ 9:24pm

Sounds yummy, Squeaky! Can I have some?

by: itsafreeman

10-17-2009 @ 10:38am

Perpetuating poverty increases the consolidation of power in a few hands. The lust for power guides many people to join forces. "Tacit collusion" was a term I learned in marketing class. The trial of Christ was certainly a "conspiracy." Perhaps the Cabalists like to label people who see through their agendas as "conspiracy theorists." Al Gore was deliberately deceitful when he claimed increased CO2 levels precede increased atmospheric temperatures, instead of the other way around. That is scientific FACT.

Many scientists are influenced by the financial rewards of supporting the global warming theory. No one who criticizes the theory gets grant money. The end result of cap and trade carbon credits will be to perpetuate poverty. If you want to understand more, you might begin by looking at the information questioning the global warming theory. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=...
The founder of the Weather Channel has spoken out against the Global Warming theory.

Check the evidence, then form an opinion. The Global Warming movement operates as if the opposition is a conspiracy of vested interests in oil, etc.

by: facebook-1363553490

10-17-2009 @ 8:24pm

"Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways."

I have to disagree with this one. In my view, creation stories are meant to teach why we're here, what we're supposed to be doing, and why the world is the way it is. You don't have to believe in a literal talking snake to understand that this story has a profound message for God's followers.

by: BuckeyeDon

10-17-2009 @ 9:24pm

Sounds yummy, Squeaky! Can I have some?

by: BuckeyeDon

10-17-2009 @ 11:24pm

Sounds yummy, Squeaky! Can I have some?

by: facebook-1363553490

10-17-2009 @ 10:24pm

"Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways."

I have to disagree with this one. In my view, creation stories are meant to teach why we're here, what we're supposed to be doing, and why the world is the way it is. You don't have to believe in a literal talking snake to understand that this story has a profound message for God's followers.

by: Hannity2

10-15-2009 @ 8:35pm

"The video is part of the Day Six campaign to focus the attention of people of faith to the human impact of U.S. climate change legislation. The campaign name "is a reference to the creation story in Genesis, when God made human beings stewards of creation."

Interesting name considering most progressive Christians seem to believe in evolution.

by: kansasmennonite

10-15-2009 @ 11:57pm

So one has to have a "literal" interpretation of the creation story to use it in any way?

Your name is interesting since most progressive Christians don't appreciate Hannity:)

by: Minnesotan

10-16-2009 @ 12:52am

I am concerned that climate change legislation is built on scientific assumptions that many are disputing. What if we pass this legislation and it impoverishes the very people it is meant to help by limiting their access to food, fuel, housing and transportation, by artificially driving up prices with unnecessary environmental restrictions? I want to help the poor as Jesus said, but I am not sure this actually does that. Good intentions do not redeem a controversial bill that could actually hurt the poor.

by: itsafreeman

10-16-2009 @ 2:45am

BBC has a free video on Google: The Great Global Warming Swindle. The "science" behind man made global warming is cabalistic, not objective. In "An Inconvenient Truth", Al Gore omits that increases in atmospheric CO2 follow rises in atmospheric temperature, not the other way around.

I, for one, see the cap and trade carbon credit system as class warfare. The economic burden will be carried by the working and middle class. The economic stagnation that will result from the carbon credit system will maintain high levels of unemployment and force wages downward. This will facilitate the concentration of power in the hands of a corrupt elite and foster corruption among the impoverished masses. The global warming scam fulfills an agenda opposite to the teachings of Christ.

by: Hannity2

10-15-2009 @ 8:35pm

"The video is part of the Day Six campaign to focus the attention of people of faith to the human impact of U.S. climate change legislation. The campaign name "is a reference to the creation story in Genesis, when God made human beings stewards of creation."

Interesting name considering most progressive Christians seem to believe in evolution.

by: Hannity2

10-16-2009 @ 9:51am

Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways.

And my choice of names was just having fun in this sea of seriousness. What makes me laugh are the people who respond as if I were Hannity.

by: kansasmennonite

10-15-2009 @ 11:57pm

So one has to have a "literal" interpretation of the creation story to use it in any way?

Your name is interesting since most progressive Christians don't appreciate Hannity:)

by: Eric77

10-16-2009 @ 1:08pm

Here's another article written by a climate correspondent from the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/82990...

I don't know what to make of this other than Christians might want to be wary of putting all their eggs in the climate change basket. I'm a firm believer that we're called by God to care for his creation, which means don't exploit natural resources, reduce pollution levels, clean up the air and water, etc. I understand the desire of those who support these goals to latch on to whatever the latest "crisis" is to advance these goals, but what happens if the "crisis" doesn't materialize or is proved not to be the crisis we non-omniscient humans though it was?

We should continue to talk about creation care, but at the same time, be cautious and careful about the methods we use.

by: squeaky

10-16-2009 @ 1:48pm

Your mistake is that you assume that those Christians who accept evolution also think the creation story is a fairy tale. For those of us who accept both, we actually can have it both ways, and the cake is quite tasty, in fact. Chocolate with vanilla cream filling, to be specific.

by: Minnesotan

10-16-2009 @ 12:52am

I am concerned that climate change legislation is built on scientific assumptions that many are disputing. What if we pass this legislation and it impoverishes the very people it is meant to help by limiting their access to food, fuel, housing and transportation, by artificially driving up prices with unnecessary environmental restrictions? I want to help the poor as Jesus said, but I am not sure this actually does that. Good intentions do not redeem a controversial bill that could actually hurt the poor.

by: itsafreeman

10-16-2009 @ 2:45am

BBC has a free video on Google: The Great Global Warming Swindle. The "science" behind man made global warming is cabalistic, not objective. In "An Inconvenient Truth", Al Gore omits that increases in atmospheric CO2 follow rises in atmospheric temperature, not the other way around.

I, for one, see the cap and trade carbon credit system as class warfare. The economic burden will be carried by the working and middle class. The economic stagnation that will result from the carbon credit system will maintain high levels of unemployment and force wages downward. This will facilitate the concentration of power in the hands of a corrupt elite and foster corruption among the impoverished masses. The global warming scam fulfills an agenda opposite to the teachings of Christ.

by: Hannity2

10-16-2009 @ 9:51am

Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways.

And my choice of names was just having fun in this sea of seriousness. What makes me laugh are the people who respond as if I were Hannity.

by: Ngchen

10-16-2009 @ 4:29pm

Are you suggesting that pretty much all the climatologists of the world are *deliberately* cooking something up, a la a conspiracy of unprecedented scale? And are you suggesting that the supposed "rulers" actually *want* to keep unemployment high and wages low?

I find these ideas hard to believe, although honest mistakes can't be ruled out.

by: Eric77

10-16-2009 @ 1:08pm

Here's another article written by a climate correspondent from the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/82990...

I don't know what to make of this other than Christians might want to be wary of putting all their eggs in the climate change basket. I'm a firm believer that we're called by God to care for his creation, which means don't exploit natural resources, reduce pollution levels, clean up the air and water, etc. I understand the desire of those who support these goals to latch on to whatever the latest "crisis" is to advance these goals, but what happens if the "crisis" doesn't materialize or is proved not to be the crisis we non-omniscient humans though it was?

We should continue to talk about creation care, but at the same time, be cautious and careful about the methods we use.

by: squeaky

10-16-2009 @ 1:48pm

Your mistake is that you assume that those Christians who accept evolution also think the creation story is a fairy tale. For those of us who accept both, we actually can have it both ways, and the cake is quite tasty, in fact. Chocolate with vanilla cream filling, to be specific.

by: Ngchen

10-16-2009 @ 4:29pm

Are you suggesting that pretty much all the climatologists of the world are *deliberately* cooking something up, a la a conspiracy of unprecedented scale? And are you suggesting that the supposed "rulers" actually *want* to keep unemployment high and wages low?

I find these ideas hard to believe, although honest mistakes can't be ruled out.

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by: Hannity2

10-15-2009 @ 8:35pm

"The video is part of the Day Six campaign to focus the attention of people of faith to the human impact of U.S. climate change legislation. The campaign name "is a reference to the creation story in Genesis, when God made human beings stewards of creation."

Interesting name considering most progressive Christians seem to believe in evolution.

by: Hannity2

10-15-2009 @ 8:35pm

"The video is part of the Day Six campaign to focus the attention of people of faith to the human impact of U.S. climate change legislation. The campaign name "is a reference to the creation story in Genesis, when God made human beings stewards of creation."

Interesting name considering most progressive Christians seem to believe in evolution.

by: kansasmennonite

10-15-2009 @ 11:57pm

So one has to have a "literal" interpretation of the creation story to use it in any way?

Your name is interesting since most progressive Christians don't appreciate Hannity:)

by: kansasmennonite

10-15-2009 @ 11:57pm

So one has to have a "literal" interpretation of the creation story to use it in any way?

Your name is interesting since most progressive Christians don't appreciate Hannity:)

by: Minnesotan

10-16-2009 @ 12:52am

I am concerned that climate change legislation is built on scientific assumptions that many are disputing. What if we pass this legislation and it impoverishes the very people it is meant to help by limiting their access to food, fuel, housing and transportation, by artificially driving up prices with unnecessary environmental restrictions? I want to help the poor as Jesus said, but I am not sure this actually does that. Good intentions do not redeem a controversial bill that could actually hurt the poor.

by: itsafreeman

10-16-2009 @ 2:45am

BBC has a free video on Google: The Great Global Warming Swindle. The "science" behind man made global warming is cabalistic, not objective. In "An Inconvenient Truth", Al Gore omits that increases in atmospheric CO2 follow rises in atmospheric temperature, not the other way around.

I, for one, see the cap and trade carbon credit system as class warfare. The economic burden will be carried by the working and middle class. The economic stagnation that will result from the carbon credit system will maintain high levels of unemployment and force wages downward. This will facilitate the concentration of power in the hands of a corrupt elite and foster corruption among the impoverished masses. The global warming scam fulfills an agenda opposite to the teachings of Christ.

by: Hannity2

10-16-2009 @ 9:51am

Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways.

And my choice of names was just having fun in this sea of seriousness. What makes me laugh are the people who respond as if I were Hannity.

by: Mennoman

10-16-2009 @ 11:45pm

"Interesting name considering most progressive Christians seem to believe in evolution." Hannity2

Not really. They are capable of using metaphors and symbols. They are capable of abstract thinking.

by: Mennoman

10-16-2009 @ 11:45pm

"Interesting name considering most progressive Christians seem to believe in evolution." Hannity2

Not really. They are capable of using metaphors and symbols. They are capable of abstract thinking.

by: itsafreeman

10-17-2009 @ 10:38am

Perpetuating poverty increases the consolidation of power in a few hands. The lust for power guides many people to join forces. "Tacit collusion" was a term I learned in marketing class. The trial of Christ was certainly a "conspiracy." Perhaps the Cabalists like to label people who see through their agendas as "conspiracy theorists." Al Gore was deliberately deceitful when he claimed increased CO2 levels precede increased atmospheric temperatures, instead of the other way around. That is scientific FACT.

Many scientists are influenced by the financial rewards of supporting the global warming theory. No one who criticizes the theory gets grant money. The end result of cap and trade carbon credits will be to perpetuate poverty. If you want to understand more, you might begin by looking at the information questioning the global warming theory. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=...
The founder of the Weather Channel has spoken out against the Global Warming theory.

Check the evidence, then form an opinion. The Global Warming movement operates as if the opposition is a conspiracy of vested interests in oil, etc.

by: itsafreeman

10-17-2009 @ 10:38am

Perpetuating poverty increases the consolidation of power in a few hands. The lust for power guides many people to join forces. "Tacit collusion" was a term I learned in marketing class. The trial of Christ was certainly a "conspiracy." Perhaps the Cabalists like to label people who see through their agendas as "conspiracy theorists." Al Gore was deliberately deceitful when he claimed increased CO2 levels precede increased atmospheric temperatures, instead of the other way around. That is scientific FACT.

Many scientists are influenced by the financial rewards of supporting the global warming theory. No one who criticizes the theory gets grant money. The end result of cap and trade carbon credits will be to perpetuate poverty. If you want to understand more, you might begin by looking at the information questioning the global warming theory. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=...
The founder of the Weather Channel has spoken out against the Global Warming theory.

Check the evidence, then form an opinion. The Global Warming movement operates as if the opposition is a conspiracy of vested interests in oil, etc.

by: facebook-1363553490

10-17-2009 @ 8:24pm

"Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways."

I have to disagree with this one. In my view, creation stories are meant to teach why we're here, what we're supposed to be doing, and why the world is the way it is. You don't have to believe in a literal talking snake to understand that this story has a profound message for God's followers.

by: facebook-1363553490

10-17-2009 @ 8:24pm

"Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways."

I have to disagree with this one. In my view, creation stories are meant to teach why we're here, what we're supposed to be doing, and why the world is the way it is. You don't have to believe in a literal talking snake to understand that this story has a profound message for God's followers.

by: BuckeyeDon

10-17-2009 @ 9:24pm

Sounds yummy, Squeaky! Can I have some?

by: BuckeyeDon

10-17-2009 @ 9:24pm

Sounds yummy, Squeaky! Can I have some?

by: facebook-1363553490

10-17-2009 @ 10:24pm

"Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways."

I have to disagree with this one. In my view, creation stories are meant to teach why we're here, what we're supposed to be doing, and why the world is the way it is. You don't have to believe in a literal talking snake to understand that this story has a profound message for God's followers.

by: facebook-1363553490

10-17-2009 @ 10:24pm

"Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways."

I have to disagree with this one. In my view, creation stories are meant to teach why we're here, what we're supposed to be doing, and why the world is the way it is. You don't have to believe in a literal talking snake to understand that this story has a profound message for God's followers.

by: BuckeyeDon

10-17-2009 @ 11:24pm

Sounds yummy, Squeaky! Can I have some?

by: BuckeyeDon

10-17-2009 @ 11:24pm

Sounds yummy, Squeaky! Can I have some?

by: Minnesotan

10-16-2009 @ 12:52am

I am concerned that climate change legislation is built on scientific assumptions that many are disputing. What if we pass this legislation and it impoverishes the very people it is meant to help by limiting their access to food, fuel, housing and transportation, by artificially driving up prices with unnecessary environmental restrictions? I want to help the poor as Jesus said, but I am not sure this actually does that. Good intentions do not redeem a controversial bill that could actually hurt the poor.

by: itsafreeman

10-16-2009 @ 2:45am

BBC has a free video on Google: The Great Global Warming Swindle. The "science" behind man made global warming is cabalistic, not objective. In "An Inconvenient Truth", Al Gore omits that increases in atmospheric CO2 follow rises in atmospheric temperature, not the other way around.

I, for one, see the cap and trade carbon credit system as class warfare. The economic burden will be carried by the working and middle class. The economic stagnation that will result from the carbon credit system will maintain high levels of unemployment and force wages downward. This will facilitate the concentration of power in the hands of a corrupt elite and foster corruption among the impoverished masses. The global warming scam fulfills an agenda opposite to the teachings of Christ.

by: Hannity2

10-16-2009 @ 9:51am

Well if you think that the creation story is just a fairy tale, then the part about man being the stewards of the earth is just part of the fairy tale. You can't have it both ways.

And my choice of names was just having fun in this sea of seriousness. What makes me laugh are the people who respond as if I were Hannity.

by: Eric77

10-16-2009 @ 1:08pm

Here's another article written by a climate correspondent from the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/82990...

I don't know what to make of this other than Christians might want to be wary of putting all their eggs in the climate change basket. I'm a firm believer that we're called by God to care for his creation, which means don't exploit natural resources, reduce pollution levels, clean up the air and water, etc. I understand the desire of those who support these goals to latch on to whatever the latest "crisis" is to advance these goals, but what happens if the "crisis" doesn't materialize or is proved not to be the crisis we non-omniscient humans though it was?

We should continue to talk about creation care, but at the same time, be cautious and careful about the methods we use.

by: Eric77

10-16-2009 @ 1:08pm

Here's another article written by a climate correspondent from the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/82990...

I don't know what to make of this other than Christians might want to be wary of putting all their eggs in the climate change basket. I'm a firm believer that we're called by God to care for his creation, which means don't exploit natural resources, reduce pollution levels, clean up the air and water, etc. I understand the desire of those who support these goals to latch on to whatever the latest "crisis" is to advance these goals, but what happens if the "crisis" doesn't materialize or is proved not to be the crisis we non-omniscient humans though it was?

We should continue to talk about creation care, but at the same time, be cautious and careful about the methods we use.

by: squeaky

10-16-2009 @ 1:48pm

Your mistake is that you assume that those Christians who accept evolution also think the creation story is a fairy tale. For those of us who accept both, we actually can have it both ways, and the cake is quite tasty, in fact. Chocolate with vanilla cream filling, to be specific.

by: squeaky

10-16-2009 @ 1:48pm

Your mistake is that you assume that those Christians who accept evolution also think the creation story is a fairy tale. For those of us who accept both, we actually can have it both ways, and the cake is quite tasty, in fact. Chocolate with vanilla cream filling, to be specific.

by: Ngchen

10-16-2009 @ 4:29pm

Are you suggesting that pretty much all the climatologists of the world are *deliberately* cooking something up, a la a conspiracy of unprecedented scale? And are you suggesting that the supposed "rulers" actually *want* to keep unemployment high and wages low?

I find these ideas hard to believe, although honest mistakes can't be ruled out.

by: Ngchen

10-16-2009 @ 4:29pm

Are you suggesting that pretty much all the climatologists of the world are *deliberately* cooking something up, a la a conspiracy of unprecedented scale? And are you suggesting that the supposed "rulers" actually *want* to keep unemployment high and wages low?

I find these ideas hard to believe, although honest mistakes can't be ruled out.