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Money has become the measure of man, contributing much to our recent sorrows. It may, indeed, be the prime reason. Greed, a sin, leads to ruin. As we try to come to grips with why the wheels came off the car in the Great Recession, one of the least talked about aspect has been how much we judged each other by money's measurement yardstick. Our human worth is tied too much to the bottom line of our finances.

Yet, death reveals this measuring device as fool's gold. What we most remember about the ones who have passed from this life is more about their love and relationships. The best of our lives goes beyond our money it goes to the quality of our relationships and of our honor, and of our integrity. We have forgotten this reality and chase the fairy tale that greed proclaims. Easy money and love of pleasure replaced salvation as the good news we most want to hear. No longer do we look at a human's honor or her word. When have last time you even heard the use of the word honor?

In the whole Tiger Woods story, the subtext has been how much money he has lost. His has diminished in our estimation because he has lost money through lost sponsorships. That he may lose his family registered hardly a blip. How strange that the weakness of Mr. Woods and his lack of integrity is primarily calibrated against his money. The loss of honor, the loss of relationship, and the loss of reputation are thought of as side casualties. The loss of possibly hundreds of millions of dollars is what counts. The fact that he still has more money than most two-thirds world countries doesn't count. What counts is the loss of future revenue. As we have made money the reason for living, we have lost our sense of shame.

Unfortunately, this use of money as a scorecard is not limited to Mr. Woods. Is it any wonder that bankers claim that only by offering outrageous salaries, can they attract "talent"? "Talent" that were the very same ones that created the machinery of the Great Recession. Few have shown any remorse or shame in their conduct leading to the economic debacle, and in fact blame others for the mess they created.

Having pride in a job well done, doing good for the general welfare, being a servant like Jesus have been replaced by the dollar sign. Until we rid our selves of our new Ba'al, making money the point of life, we will continue to cycles of unabashed hedonism followed by economic sorrows. We need a prophet to proclaim to us the true Gospel, the good news of Jesus. Money lacks the power to save us; the love of God through Jesus saves us.

The church, for the most part, has failed in its roll of prophet and at times has, itself, chased profits. If all that matters is how big our churches are and how much money they raise, we miss the Gospel of Jesus. If we pray for God to make us rich monetarily, then who is our God, Jesus or money?

Yesterday, I saw a miracle. A fellow brother in Christ, a faithful man who raised three children and has the love of the church in his heart, has been confined to a wheelchair. During prayers of the people, in the midst of our crying out to God for healing, in the midst of prayers celebrating the birth of babies, he struggled out of his wheelchair and stood before his God. The power of God rested on him. His voice joined the rest of voices crying out for new life. The beauty of a faithful man standing before his God overwhelmed me and pointed to the truth of God. I knew the beauty of the Gospel. We are helpless before God, and no amount of money will help us when we stand before the ultimate reality. We love, therefore we are.

Until we again understand the truth of love, and abandon the love of money, we will miss the beauty of life. I know I am saying nothing new here. It is as old as the cross of Jesus, as old as the foundation of creation. We just have forgotten the truth, blinded by the shiny siren of easy money leading us with cheap promises to the edge of the cliff. Let us back away from the cliff.

portrait-ernesto-tinajero1Ernesto Tinajero is a freelance writer in Spokane, Washington, who earned his master's degree in theology from Fuller Seminary. Visit his blog at beingandfaith.blogspot.com.

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by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 7:18pm

I have a feeling that if her critics stopped talking about her she'd disappear from the news. What if Sarah Palin wrote a Facebook post or gave a speech and media didn't cover it and her critics didn't rebut it?

It's because of her legion of fans that she remains in the news in the first place -- if we (and I'm in the media) ignored her they'd complain about that. Part of that worldview is that they believe that they deserve to be taken seriously on their own merits because their ideology represents holy writ.

by: Brent Hardaway

12-24-2009 @ 7:30pm

"Because those are legitimate issues that other evangelicals won't touch. Too many Christians have relegated cultural involvement to abortion, prayer in schools, gay marriage and worshipping America; God, on the other hand, is much bigger than those."

It's perfectly fine to address those issues. It's another thing to exaggerate those things beyond recognition. Why is it so hard to say that greed and racism are faults of America to certain extent (and at this point in our history the former is more of a problem than the latter), but are not as all-consuming as SoJo likes to portray?

by: justintime

12-24-2009 @ 9:04pm

Golf is a colossal waste of time.
The world would be a lot better off without it.

by: grandlink

12-24-2009 @ 9:46pm

First of all Sojourners is the only Christian organization I can tolerate and I enjoy reading Jim Wallis because he's seems concerned about a broad spectrum of issues and not just abortion or same-sex marriage. The crises I have in my own life are not about homosexuality or abortion. They are about money and the law and involve myself and others I physically care for. This society is utterly obsessed with money. It the utility companies, landlords and the outrageous penalties for smalltime offenses. It is about banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies and political figures who take bribes (campaign contributions). I've lived long enough to see this country change from a time when money wasn't a national obsession to the money-grubbing state of affairs we have now. I don't know what to do. I'm angry and infuriated most the time.

by: BlueDeacon

12-25-2009 @ 2:57am

I'm African-American, and as such it's not something I personally can ignore
even if I wanted to (and I'm not the super-sensitive type). Have you noticed
how few blacks get busted for things like insider trading? Think that's a
coincidence? Hint: It's not because we're more virtuous. On top of that,
Jim Wallis lives in one of poorest neighborhoods in D.C., so he has a
different perspective than probably most evangelicals -- it may be his
reality, and it certainly is such for Christians who live in those
communities.

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by: Brent Hardaway

12-23-2009 @ 10:27pm

Exactly. Why does SoJo have an obsession with turning every current event into a pretext for bashing America for being greedy (or racism, at other times)? This is totally over the top.

by: chadbowen

12-24-2009 @ 3:56am

pcnot4me, I think that, as you noted, the media's emphasis on Tiger's lost money might not have been as strong as it is portrayed in this particular blog post. However, I think that Mr. Tinajero's point is valid in that money has been a huge spotlight of the scandal. "Which sponsors will drop him?" "What will the PGA lose without Tiger there?" etc.

There has been much focus on the money lost, even if it has not all been there.

by: chadbowen

12-24-2009 @ 4:07am

I think that America's (and the world's for that matter) fascination with the whole scandal is more disturbing than any amount of money talk that has accompanied it. It is as if we cannot get enough of the raw wounds that have been exposed when this news story broke. We want to be voyeurs and know every disgusting detail of a man's life and we revel in the depths of his confessed sin.

There is no aspect of love anywhere in our desire to know the facts and to find out which ones of the women who claim to have slept with him actually did. As we drink in the poisonous nectar of his "transgressions," too few long to offer a helping hand, too few take the opportunity to note and discuss the extraordinary sexual temptation that is ever before us, too few take the opportunity to examine themselves, cognizant of their own propensity to fail despite the absence of paparazzi, and far too few are willing to enter a posture of prayer for the man whose life is falling apart, for the family that has to live with the consequences of his actions, and for the pandemic of broken marriages that plague our culture today.

[steps off soapbox now.]

by: pcnot4me

12-24-2009 @ 1:07pm

It's a part of the story. If the sponsors didn't drop him the blog on here would be about how greedy the sponsors are to keep him. If they dropped him and it wasn't covered, the blog would be about how the media is ignoring this aspect of the story to protect the greedy sponsors.

As Brent said above....the poster on here find greed, racism, and injustice in everthing. I seriously wonder if some ever find reason to smile or enjoy a minute of the day.

by: Brent Hardaway

12-26-2009 @ 3:07am

"I'm African-American, and as such it's not something I personally can ignore even if I wanted to (and I'm not the super-sensitive type)."

I'm not saying to ignore it. Just don't exaggerate it. Or portray America as uniquely evil in this regard. What country in the world has as much racial integration in the world as us, or has attempted to do as much to right its wrongs? That doesn't mean we're not guilty or close to being perfect. But in Africa or the Arab world, there's a lot of racial animosity among people of the SAME color skin, even.

"Have you noticed how few blacks get busted for things like insider trading? Think that's a coincidence?"

No, it's not. But it goes beyond racism as an explanation. When I was a business undergrad, there were only 1 or 2 African-American students out of a typical class of 80 people. If few black students are choosing to enter the business world, few are going to make it to the top.

Is it because the business world is racist? I've been in the corporate world for 13 years now, and you might be interested to know that 3 out of 4 supervisors I've had have been liberals, and in the pod where I am now, I'm the only one who voted for McCain. Most people are college educated, cosmopolitan people, and the number of politically liberal people is sizable.

by: BlueDeacon

12-26-2009 @ 3:20am

I'm not saying to ignore it. Just don't exaggerate it. Or portray America as uniquely evil in this regard. What country in the world has as much racial integration in the world as us, or has attempted to do as much to right its wrongs? That doesn't mean we're not guilty or close to being perfect. But in Africa or the Arab world, there's a lot of racial animosity among people of the SAME color skin, even.

Well, in fact the conservative movement in this country has actually tried to roll some of that back; some even said so. Examples of that are simply too numerous to post here, but suffice it to say that the Reagan Administration took the lead in Washington. And no one will accuse Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck, whom many evangelicals listen to, of promoting racial harmony.

But it goes beyond racism as an explanation.

My point is that blacks often don't have the contacts to "move up the ladder" because they don't live in the same neighborhoods, attend the same churches, join the same clubs etc. as the "big shots" -- in other words, they're not part of the "old-boys" network.

by: WaveTossed

12-24-2009 @ 2:12pm

Just my opinion: two people that I'm heartily sick of seeing/hearing about:

(not in any particular order)

Tiger Woods

Sarah Palin

by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 3:02pm

I'm not sure of your point. The truth is that a majority of Americans believe that stepping out on your wife is immoral and that Tiger Woods did so cost him financially. That was based not just on his performance but his "star power" (i.e. image).

by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 3:05pm

Why does SoJo have an obsession with turning every current event into a pretext for bashing America for being greedy (or racism, at other times)?

Because those are legitimate issues that other evangelicals won't touch. Too many Christians have relegated cultural involvement to abortion, prayer in schools, gay marriage and worshipping America; Go, on the other hand, is much bigger than those.

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 11:38am

So are you saying the media covers people who complain the most about the lack of coverage? In general, the national media does a pretty poor job of making decisions about what is news and what is "news" (i.e. entertainment and controversy).

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 11:39am

Someone forgot to take his cranky pants off before commenting here.

by: SamHamilton

12-24-2009 @ 3:57pm

Agreed. Until Tiger starts playing golf again, I'd prefer not to see a single news story about him.

As for Palin, she bothers me. What bothers me more though is that people, her fans and critics alike, lavish attention on her. I have a feeling that if her critics stopped talking about her she'd disappear from the news. What if Sarah Palin wrote a Facebook post and media didn't cover it and her critics didn't rebut it?

by: Rick Nowlin

12-27-2009 @ 5:37pm

That's irrelevant in this case and not what I'm saying. The conservative movement targeted us from the beginning because they figured that if they can create doubt about our integrity they would be able to substitute their propaganda and have people accept it as truth or a legitimate version of such, even while we know all the while that they're distorting it or outright lying. (BTW, I'm a print guy and almost never watch cable news.)

by: SamHamilton

12-24-2009 @ 4:02pm

I agree it's a part of the story as well, but I think the main focus has been on the sex scandal side of it. Like you, I'm disturbed by our fascination with that aspect of it.

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 8:19pm

I'm assuming you are the same person as BlueDeacon. I read your comment - "It's because of her legion of fans that she remains in the news in the first place..." to mean that because she has legions of complaining fans the media is somehow compelled to air her views. My hypothetical above was premised on the belief that the media controls what it airs and prints.

by: ford49

12-28-2009 @ 5:41am

I would bet that a lot of African Americans would argue about your characterization of "this point in history" regarding the reality and impact of racism in U.S society. We continue to be asleep to the reality that this country was founded on the genocide of one race of people and the enslavement of another. It's ugly and we compartmentalize this reality and conveniently tuck it away in our "cowboy and indian" mentality...the ramification of this slight of mind impacts our relations with all people of color in our country today. SoJo is not "portrying" anything but it is presenting an uncomfortable truth.

by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 7:18pm

I have a feeling that if her critics stopped talking about her she'd disappear from the news. What if Sarah Palin wrote a Facebook post or gave a speech and media didn't cover it and her critics didn't rebut it?

It's because of her legion of fans that she remains in the news in the first place -- if we (and I'm in the media) ignored her they'd complain about that. Part of that worldview is that they believe that they deserve to be taken seriously on their own merits because their ideology represents holy writ.

by: Brent Hardaway

12-24-2009 @ 7:30pm

"Because those are legitimate issues that other evangelicals won't touch. Too many Christians have relegated cultural involvement to abortion, prayer in schools, gay marriage and worshipping America; God, on the other hand, is much bigger than those."

It's perfectly fine to address those issues. It's another thing to exaggerate those things beyond recognition. Why is it so hard to say that greed and racism are faults of America to certain extent (and at this point in our history the former is more of a problem than the latter), but are not as all-consuming as SoJo likes to portray?

by: justintime

12-24-2009 @ 9:04pm

Golf is a colossal waste of time.
The world would be a lot better off without it.

by: grandlink

12-24-2009 @ 9:46pm

First of all Sojourners is the only Christian organization I can tolerate and I enjoy reading Jim Wallis because he's seems concerned about a broad spectrum of issues and not just abortion or same-sex marriage. The crises I have in my own life are not about homosexuality or abortion. They are about money and the law and involve myself and others I physically care for. This society is utterly obsessed with money. It the utility companies, landlords and the outrageous penalties for smalltime offenses. It is about banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies and political figures who take bribes (campaign contributions). I've lived long enough to see this country change from a time when money wasn't a national obsession to the money-grubbing state of affairs we have now. I don't know what to do. I'm angry and infuriated most the time.

by: BlueDeacon

12-25-2009 @ 2:57am

I'm African-American, and as such it's not something I personally can ignore
even if I wanted to (and I'm not the super-sensitive type). Have you noticed
how few blacks get busted for things like insider trading? Think that's a
coincidence? Hint: It's not because we're more virtuous. On top of that,
Jim Wallis lives in one of poorest neighborhoods in D.C., so he has a
different perspective than probably most evangelicals -- it may be his
reality, and it certainly is such for Christians who live in those
communities.

by: Brent Hardaway

12-26-2009 @ 3:07am

"I'm African-American, and as such it's not something I personally can ignore even if I wanted to (and I'm not the super-sensitive type)."

I'm not saying to ignore it. Just don't exaggerate it. Or portray America as uniquely evil in this regard. What country in the world has as much racial integration in the world as us, or has attempted to do as much to right its wrongs? That doesn't mean we're not guilty or close to being perfect. But in Africa or the Arab world, there's a lot of racial animosity among people of the SAME color skin, even.

"Have you noticed how few blacks get busted for things like insider trading? Think that's a coincidence?"

No, it's not. But it goes beyond racism as an explanation. When I was a business undergrad, there were only 1 or 2 African-American students out of a typical class of 80 people. If few black students are choosing to enter the business world, few are going to make it to the top.

Is it because the business world is racist? I've been in the corporate world for 13 years now, and you might be interested to know that 3 out of 4 supervisors I've had have been liberals, and in the pod where I am now, I'm the only one who voted for McCain. Most people are college educated, cosmopolitan people, and the number of politically liberal people is sizable.

by: BlueDeacon

12-26-2009 @ 3:20am

I'm not saying to ignore it. Just don't exaggerate it. Or portray America as uniquely evil in this regard. What country in the world has as much racial integration in the world as us, or has attempted to do as much to right its wrongs? That doesn't mean we're not guilty or close to being perfect. But in Africa or the Arab world, there's a lot of racial animosity among people of the SAME color skin, even.

Well, in fact the conservative movement in this country has actually tried to roll some of that back; some even said so. Examples of that are simply too numerous to post here, but suffice it to say that the Reagan Administration took the lead in Washington. And no one will accuse Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck, whom many evangelicals listen to, of promoting racial harmony.

But it goes beyond racism as an explanation.

My point is that blacks often don't have the contacts to "move up the ladder" because they don't live in the same neighborhoods, attend the same churches, join the same clubs etc. as the "big shots" -- in other words, they're not part of the "old-boys" network.

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 11:38am

So are you saying the media covers people who complain the most about the lack of coverage? In general, the national media does a pretty poor job of making decisions about what is news and what is "news" (i.e. entertainment and controversy).

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 11:39am

Someone forgot to take his cranky pants off before commenting here.

by: Rick Nowlin

12-27-2009 @ 5:37pm

That's irrelevant in this case and not what I'm saying. The conservative movement targeted us from the beginning because they figured that if they can create doubt about our integrity they would be able to substitute their propaganda and have people accept it as truth or a legitimate version of such, even while we know all the while that they're distorting it or outright lying. (BTW, I'm a print guy and almost never watch cable news.)

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 8:19pm

I'm assuming you are the same person as BlueDeacon. I read your comment - "It's because of her legion of fans that she remains in the news in the first place..." to mean that because she has legions of complaining fans the media is somehow compelled to air her views. My hypothetical above was premised on the belief that the media controls what it airs and prints.

by: ford49

12-28-2009 @ 5:41am

I would bet that a lot of African Americans would argue about your characterization of "this point in history" regarding the reality and impact of racism in U.S society. We continue to be asleep to the reality that this country was founded on the genocide of one race of people and the enslavement of another. It's ugly and we compartmentalize this reality and conveniently tuck it away in our "cowboy and indian" mentality...the ramification of this slight of mind impacts our relations with all people of color in our country today. SoJo is not "portrying" anything but it is presenting an uncomfortable truth.

by: Darnell Barkman

01-07-2010 @ 5:15am

I highly doubt that Tiger didn't care about his family. I'm sure that he was a hurting man, with a lot of loneliness and frustration in life just like the rest of us. He lost touch with what was important and fell to sex like lots of us do. That's why proverbs has Chapters all about staying clear of the wayward woman, because there always seems to be one available when we're weak. I hardly believe that Tiger didn't care about his family, he's not a monster. He's another damaged human that's been lifted to superhuman status and left lonely at the top.

He's clearly another victim of isolationism and individuality in our culture.

by: Darnell Barkman

01-07-2010 @ 3:15am

I highly doubt that Tiger didn't care about his family. I'm sure that he was a hurting man, with a lot of loneliness and frustration in life just like the rest of us. He lost touch with what was important and fell to sex like lots of us do. That's why proverbs has Chapters all about staying clear of the wayward woman, because there always seems to be one available when we're weak. I hardly believe that Tiger didn't care about his family, he's not a monster. He's another damaged human that's been lifted to superhuman status and left lonely at the top.

He's clearly another victim of isolationism and individuality in our culture.

by: Darnell Barkman

01-07-2010 @ 3:15am

I highly doubt that Tiger didn't care about his family. I'm sure that he was a hurting man, with a lot of loneliness and frustration in life just like the rest of us. He lost touch with what was important and fell to sex like lots of us do. That's why proverbs has Chapters all about staying clear of the wayward woman, because there always seems to be one available when we're weak. I hardly believe that Tiger didn't care about his family, he's not a monster. He's another damaged human that's been lifted to superhuman status and left lonely at the top.

He's clearly another victim of isolationism and individuality in our culture.

by: nuclearferret

12-23-2009 @ 2:56pm

"That he may lose his family registered hardly a blip. How strange that the weakness of Mr. Woods and his lack of integrity is primarily calibrated against his money. The loss of honor, the loss of relationship, and the loss of reputation are thought of as side casualties."

Tiger Woods didn't care about his family. Or didn't care as much about them as his own pleasure. So this falls on the public? What he does with his wife and lovers is irrelevant to my life and my relationships, the same principle advanced with support for same sex marriage. However, whether he plays golf again, that affects us in the sense of entertainment.

by: pcnot4me

12-23-2009 @ 2:58pm

uh...what have you been watching? The Tiger story has been about the fall of the man. The loss of sponsorship money has just been a sidebar. But it is part of the story. And the sponsors who have dropped him have said "We don't want this type of character to represent out products".

by: WaveTossed

12-23-2009 @ 4:13pm

"Tiger Woods didn't care about his family. Or didn't care as much about them as his own pleasure. So this falls on the public? What he does with his wife and lovers is irrelevant to my life and my relationships, the same principle advanced with support for same sex marriage."

What in the world does Tiger Woods' vast number of infidelities have to do with support of same-sex marriage? Did Tiger Woods come out in favor of same-sex marriage and I missed it??!!!

Same-sex marriage involves commitment, fidelity, taking vows, life-long love. What Tiger Woods did involves adultery and infidelity.

by: Darnell Barkman

01-07-2010 @ 5:15am

I highly doubt that Tiger didn't care about his family. I'm sure that he was a hurting man, with a lot of loneliness and frustration in life just like the rest of us. He lost touch with what was important and fell to sex like lots of us do. That's why proverbs has Chapters all about staying clear of the wayward woman, because there always seems to be one available when we're weak. I hardly believe that Tiger didn't care about his family, he's not a monster. He's another damaged human that's been lifted to superhuman status and left lonely at the top.

He's clearly another victim of isolationism and individuality in our culture.

by: Brent Hardaway

12-23-2009 @ 10:27pm

Exactly. Why does SoJo have an obsession with turning every current event into a pretext for bashing America for being greedy (or racism, at other times)? This is totally over the top.

by: chadbowen

12-24-2009 @ 3:56am

pcnot4me, I think that, as you noted, the media's emphasis on Tiger's lost money might not have been as strong as it is portrayed in this particular blog post. However, I think that Mr. Tinajero's point is valid in that money has been a huge spotlight of the scandal. "Which sponsors will drop him?" "What will the PGA lose without Tiger there?" etc.

There has been much focus on the money lost, even if it has not all been there.

by: chadbowen

12-24-2009 @ 4:07am

I think that America's (and the world's for that matter) fascination with the whole scandal is more disturbing than any amount of money talk that has accompanied it. It is as if we cannot get enough of the raw wounds that have been exposed when this news story broke. We want to be voyeurs and know every disgusting detail of a man's life and we revel in the depths of his confessed sin.

There is no aspect of love anywhere in our desire to know the facts and to find out which ones of the women who claim to have slept with him actually did. As we drink in the poisonous nectar of his "transgressions," too few long to offer a helping hand, too few take the opportunity to note and discuss the extraordinary sexual temptation that is ever before us, too few take the opportunity to examine themselves, cognizant of their own propensity to fail despite the absence of paparazzi, and far too few are willing to enter a posture of prayer for the man whose life is falling apart, for the family that has to live with the consequences of his actions, and for the pandemic of broken marriages that plague our culture today.

[steps off soapbox now.]

by: nuclearferret

12-23-2009 @ 2:56pm

"That he may lose his family registered hardly a blip. How strange that the weakness of Mr. Woods and his lack of integrity is primarily calibrated against his money. The loss of honor, the loss of relationship, and the loss of reputation are thought of as side casualties."

Tiger Woods didn't care about his family. Or didn't care as much about them as his own pleasure. So this falls on the public? What he does with his wife and lovers is irrelevant to my life and my relationships, the same principle advanced with support for same sex marriage. However, whether he plays golf again, that affects us in the sense of entertainment.

by: pcnot4me

12-23-2009 @ 2:58pm

uh...what have you been watching? The Tiger story has been about the fall of the man. The loss of sponsorship money has just been a sidebar. But it is part of the story. And the sponsors who have dropped him have said "We don't want this type of character to represent out products".

by: pcnot4me

12-24-2009 @ 1:07pm

It's a part of the story. If the sponsors didn't drop him the blog on here would be about how greedy the sponsors are to keep him. If they dropped him and it wasn't covered, the blog would be about how the media is ignoring this aspect of the story to protect the greedy sponsors.

As Brent said above....the poster on here find greed, racism, and injustice in everthing. I seriously wonder if some ever find reason to smile or enjoy a minute of the day.

by: WaveTossed

12-23-2009 @ 4:13pm

"Tiger Woods didn't care about his family. Or didn't care as much about them as his own pleasure. So this falls on the public? What he does with his wife and lovers is irrelevant to my life and my relationships, the same principle advanced with support for same sex marriage."

What in the world does Tiger Woods' vast number of infidelities have to do with support of same-sex marriage? Did Tiger Woods come out in favor of same-sex marriage and I missed it??!!!

Same-sex marriage involves commitment, fidelity, taking vows, life-long love. What Tiger Woods did involves adultery and infidelity.

by: WaveTossed

12-24-2009 @ 2:12pm

Just my opinion: two people that I'm heartily sick of seeing/hearing about:

(not in any particular order)

Tiger Woods

Sarah Palin

by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 3:02pm

I'm not sure of your point. The truth is that a majority of Americans believe that stepping out on your wife is immoral and that Tiger Woods did so cost him financially. That was based not just on his performance but his "star power" (i.e. image).

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by: nuclearferret

12-23-2009 @ 2:56pm

"That he may lose his family registered hardly a blip. How strange that the weakness of Mr. Woods and his lack of integrity is primarily calibrated against his money. The loss of honor, the loss of relationship, and the loss of reputation are thought of as side casualties."

Tiger Woods didn't care about his family. Or didn't care as much about them as his own pleasure. So this falls on the public? What he does with his wife and lovers is irrelevant to my life and my relationships, the same principle advanced with support for same sex marriage. However, whether he plays golf again, that affects us in the sense of entertainment.

by: nuclearferret

12-23-2009 @ 2:56pm

"That he may lose his family registered hardly a blip. How strange that the weakness of Mr. Woods and his lack of integrity is primarily calibrated against his money. The loss of honor, the loss of relationship, and the loss of reputation are thought of as side casualties."

Tiger Woods didn't care about his family. Or didn't care as much about them as his own pleasure. So this falls on the public? What he does with his wife and lovers is irrelevant to my life and my relationships, the same principle advanced with support for same sex marriage. However, whether he plays golf again, that affects us in the sense of entertainment.

by: pcnot4me

12-23-2009 @ 2:58pm

uh...what have you been watching? The Tiger story has been about the fall of the man. The loss of sponsorship money has just been a sidebar. But it is part of the story. And the sponsors who have dropped him have said "We don't want this type of character to represent out products".

by: pcnot4me

12-23-2009 @ 2:58pm

uh...what have you been watching? The Tiger story has been about the fall of the man. The loss of sponsorship money has just been a sidebar. But it is part of the story. And the sponsors who have dropped him have said "We don't want this type of character to represent out products".

by: WaveTossed

12-23-2009 @ 4:13pm

"Tiger Woods didn't care about his family. Or didn't care as much about them as his own pleasure. So this falls on the public? What he does with his wife and lovers is irrelevant to my life and my relationships, the same principle advanced with support for same sex marriage."

What in the world does Tiger Woods' vast number of infidelities have to do with support of same-sex marriage? Did Tiger Woods come out in favor of same-sex marriage and I missed it??!!!

Same-sex marriage involves commitment, fidelity, taking vows, life-long love. What Tiger Woods did involves adultery and infidelity.

by: WaveTossed

12-23-2009 @ 4:13pm

"Tiger Woods didn't care about his family. Or didn't care as much about them as his own pleasure. So this falls on the public? What he does with his wife and lovers is irrelevant to my life and my relationships, the same principle advanced with support for same sex marriage."

What in the world does Tiger Woods' vast number of infidelities have to do with support of same-sex marriage? Did Tiger Woods come out in favor of same-sex marriage and I missed it??!!!

Same-sex marriage involves commitment, fidelity, taking vows, life-long love. What Tiger Woods did involves adultery and infidelity.

by: Brent Hardaway

12-23-2009 @ 10:27pm

Exactly. Why does SoJo have an obsession with turning every current event into a pretext for bashing America for being greedy (or racism, at other times)? This is totally over the top.

by: Brent Hardaway

12-23-2009 @ 10:27pm

Exactly. Why does SoJo have an obsession with turning every current event into a pretext for bashing America for being greedy (or racism, at other times)? This is totally over the top.

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12-23-2009 @ 10:31pm

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by: chadbowen

12-24-2009 @ 3:56am

pcnot4me, I think that, as you noted, the media's emphasis on Tiger's lost money might not have been as strong as it is portrayed in this particular blog post. However, I think that Mr. Tinajero's point is valid in that money has been a huge spotlight of the scandal. "Which sponsors will drop him?" "What will the PGA lose without Tiger there?" etc.

There has been much focus on the money lost, even if it has not all been there.

by: chadbowen

12-24-2009 @ 3:56am

pcnot4me, I think that, as you noted, the media's emphasis on Tiger's lost money might not have been as strong as it is portrayed in this particular blog post. However, I think that Mr. Tinajero's point is valid in that money has been a huge spotlight of the scandal. "Which sponsors will drop him?" "What will the PGA lose without Tiger there?" etc.

There has been much focus on the money lost, even if it has not all been there.

by: chadbowen

12-24-2009 @ 4:07am

I think that America's (and the world's for that matter) fascination with the whole scandal is more disturbing than any amount of money talk that has accompanied it. It is as if we cannot get enough of the raw wounds that have been exposed when this news story broke. We want to be voyeurs and know every disgusting detail of a man's life and we revel in the depths of his confessed sin.

There is no aspect of love anywhere in our desire to know the facts and to find out which ones of the women who claim to have slept with him actually did. As we drink in the poisonous nectar of his "transgressions," too few long to offer a helping hand, too few take the opportunity to note and discuss the extraordinary sexual temptation that is ever before us, too few take the opportunity to examine themselves, cognizant of their own propensity to fail despite the absence of paparazzi, and far too few are willing to enter a posture of prayer for the man whose life is falling apart, for the family that has to live with the consequences of his actions, and for the pandemic of broken marriages that plague our culture today.

[steps off soapbox now.]

by: chadbowen

12-24-2009 @ 4:07am

I think that America's (and the world's for that matter) fascination with the whole scandal is more disturbing than any amount of money talk that has accompanied it. It is as if we cannot get enough of the raw wounds that have been exposed when this news story broke. We want to be voyeurs and know every disgusting detail of a man's life and we revel in the depths of his confessed sin.

There is no aspect of love anywhere in our desire to know the facts and to find out which ones of the women who claim to have slept with him actually did. As we drink in the poisonous nectar of his "transgressions," too few long to offer a helping hand, too few take the opportunity to note and discuss the extraordinary sexual temptation that is ever before us, too few take the opportunity to examine themselves, cognizant of their own propensity to fail despite the absence of paparazzi, and far too few are willing to enter a posture of prayer for the man whose life is falling apart, for the family that has to live with the consequences of his actions, and for the pandemic of broken marriages that plague our culture today.

[steps off soapbox now.]

by: pcnot4me

12-24-2009 @ 1:07pm

It's a part of the story. If the sponsors didn't drop him the blog on here would be about how greedy the sponsors are to keep him. If they dropped him and it wasn't covered, the blog would be about how the media is ignoring this aspect of the story to protect the greedy sponsors.

As Brent said above....the poster on here find greed, racism, and injustice in everthing. I seriously wonder if some ever find reason to smile or enjoy a minute of the day.

by: pcnot4me

12-24-2009 @ 1:07pm

It's a part of the story. If the sponsors didn't drop him the blog on here would be about how greedy the sponsors are to keep him. If they dropped him and it wasn't covered, the blog would be about how the media is ignoring this aspect of the story to protect the greedy sponsors.

As Brent said above....the poster on here find greed, racism, and injustice in everthing. I seriously wonder if some ever find reason to smile or enjoy a minute of the day.

by: WaveTossed

12-24-2009 @ 2:12pm

Just my opinion: two people that I'm heartily sick of seeing/hearing about:

(not in any particular order)

Tiger Woods

Sarah Palin

by: WaveTossed

12-24-2009 @ 2:12pm

Just my opinion: two people that I'm heartily sick of seeing/hearing about:

(not in any particular order)

Tiger Woods

Sarah Palin

by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 3:02pm

I'm not sure of your point. The truth is that a majority of Americans believe that stepping out on your wife is immoral and that Tiger Woods did so cost him financially. That was based not just on his performance but his "star power" (i.e. image).

by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 3:02pm

I'm not sure of your point. The truth is that a majority of Americans believe that stepping out on your wife is immoral and that Tiger Woods did so cost him financially. That was based not just on his performance but his "star power" (i.e. image).

by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 3:05pm

Why does SoJo have an obsession with turning every current event into a pretext for bashing America for being greedy (or racism, at other times)?

Because those are legitimate issues that other evangelicals won't touch. Too many Christians have relegated cultural involvement to abortion, prayer in schools, gay marriage and worshipping America; Go, on the other hand, is much bigger than those.

by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 3:05pm

Why does SoJo have an obsession with turning every current event into a pretext for bashing America for being greedy (or racism, at other times)?

Because those are legitimate issues that other evangelicals won't touch. Too many Christians have relegated cultural involvement to abortion, prayer in schools, gay marriage and worshipping America; Go, on the other hand, is much bigger than those.

by: SamHamilton

12-24-2009 @ 3:57pm

Agreed. Until Tiger starts playing golf again, I'd prefer not to see a single news story about him.

As for Palin, she bothers me. What bothers me more though is that people, her fans and critics alike, lavish attention on her. I have a feeling that if her critics stopped talking about her she'd disappear from the news. What if Sarah Palin wrote a Facebook post and media didn't cover it and her critics didn't rebut it?

by: SamHamilton

12-24-2009 @ 3:57pm

Agreed. Until Tiger starts playing golf again, I'd prefer not to see a single news story about him.

As for Palin, she bothers me. What bothers me more though is that people, her fans and critics alike, lavish attention on her. I have a feeling that if her critics stopped talking about her she'd disappear from the news. What if Sarah Palin wrote a Facebook post and media didn't cover it and her critics didn't rebut it?

by: SamHamilton

12-24-2009 @ 4:02pm

I agree it's a part of the story as well, but I think the main focus has been on the sex scandal side of it. Like you, I'm disturbed by our fascination with that aspect of it.

by: SamHamilton

12-24-2009 @ 4:02pm

I agree it's a part of the story as well, but I think the main focus has been on the sex scandal side of it. Like you, I'm disturbed by our fascination with that aspect of it.

by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 7:18pm

I have a feeling that if her critics stopped talking about her she'd disappear from the news. What if Sarah Palin wrote a Facebook post or gave a speech and media didn't cover it and her critics didn't rebut it?

It's because of her legion of fans that she remains in the news in the first place -- if we (and I'm in the media) ignored her they'd complain about that. Part of that worldview is that they believe that they deserve to be taken seriously on their own merits because their ideology represents holy writ.

by: BlueDeacon

12-24-2009 @ 7:18pm

I have a feeling that if her critics stopped talking about her she'd disappear from the news. What if Sarah Palin wrote a Facebook post or gave a speech and media didn't cover it and her critics didn't rebut it?

It's because of her legion of fans that she remains in the news in the first place -- if we (and I'm in the media) ignored her they'd complain about that. Part of that worldview is that they believe that they deserve to be taken seriously on their own merits because their ideology represents holy writ.

by: Brent Hardaway

12-24-2009 @ 7:30pm

"Because those are legitimate issues that other evangelicals won't touch. Too many Christians have relegated cultural involvement to abortion, prayer in schools, gay marriage and worshipping America; God, on the other hand, is much bigger than those."

It's perfectly fine to address those issues. It's another thing to exaggerate those things beyond recognition. Why is it so hard to say that greed and racism are faults of America to certain extent (and at this point in our history the former is more of a problem than the latter), but are not as all-consuming as SoJo likes to portray?

by: Brent Hardaway

12-24-2009 @ 7:30pm

"Because those are legitimate issues that other evangelicals won't touch. Too many Christians have relegated cultural involvement to abortion, prayer in schools, gay marriage and worshipping America; God, on the other hand, is much bigger than those."

It's perfectly fine to address those issues. It's another thing to exaggerate those things beyond recognition. Why is it so hard to say that greed and racism are faults of America to certain extent (and at this point in our history the former is more of a problem than the latter), but are not as all-consuming as SoJo likes to portray?

by: justintime

12-24-2009 @ 9:04pm

Golf is a colossal waste of time.
The world would be a lot better off without it.

by: justintime

12-24-2009 @ 9:04pm

Golf is a colossal waste of time.
The world would be a lot better off without it.

by: grandlink

12-24-2009 @ 9:46pm

First of all Sojourners is the only Christian organization I can tolerate and I enjoy reading Jim Wallis because he's seems concerned about a broad spectrum of issues and not just abortion or same-sex marriage. The crises I have in my own life are not about homosexuality or abortion. They are about money and the law and involve myself and others I physically care for. This society is utterly obsessed with money. It the utility companies, landlords and the outrageous penalties for smalltime offenses. It is about banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies and political figures who take bribes (campaign contributions). I've lived long enough to see this country change from a time when money wasn't a national obsession to the money-grubbing state of affairs we have now. I don't know what to do. I'm angry and infuriated most the time.

by: grandlink

12-24-2009 @ 9:46pm

First of all Sojourners is the only Christian organization I can tolerate and I enjoy reading Jim Wallis because he's seems concerned about a broad spectrum of issues and not just abortion or same-sex marriage. The crises I have in my own life are not about homosexuality or abortion. They are about money and the law and involve myself and others I physically care for. This society is utterly obsessed with money. It the utility companies, landlords and the outrageous penalties for smalltime offenses. It is about banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies and political figures who take bribes (campaign contributions). I've lived long enough to see this country change from a time when money wasn't a national obsession to the money-grubbing state of affairs we have now. I don't know what to do. I'm angry and infuriated most the time.

by: BlueDeacon

12-25-2009 @ 2:57am

I'm African-American, and as such it's not something I personally can ignore
even if I wanted to (and I'm not the super-sensitive type). Have you noticed
how few blacks get busted for things like insider trading? Think that's a
coincidence? Hint: It's not because we're more virtuous. On top of that,
Jim Wallis lives in one of poorest neighborhoods in D.C., so he has a
different perspective than probably most evangelicals -- it may be his
reality, and it certainly is such for Christians who live in those
communities.

by: BlueDeacon

12-25-2009 @ 2:57am

I'm African-American, and as such it's not something I personally can ignore
even if I wanted to (and I'm not the super-sensitive type). Have you noticed
how few blacks get busted for things like insider trading? Think that's a
coincidence? Hint: It's not because we're more virtuous. On top of that,
Jim Wallis lives in one of poorest neighborhoods in D.C., so he has a
different perspective than probably most evangelicals -- it may be his
reality, and it certainly is such for Christians who live in those
communities.

by: Brent Hardaway

12-26-2009 @ 3:07am

"I'm African-American, and as such it's not something I personally can ignore even if I wanted to (and I'm not the super-sensitive type)."

I'm not saying to ignore it. Just don't exaggerate it. Or portray America as uniquely evil in this regard. What country in the world has as much racial integration in the world as us, or has attempted to do as much to right its wrongs? That doesn't mean we're not guilty or close to being perfect. But in Africa or the Arab world, there's a lot of racial animosity among people of the SAME color skin, even.

"Have you noticed how few blacks get busted for things like insider trading? Think that's a coincidence?"

No, it's not. But it goes beyond racism as an explanation. When I was a business undergrad, there were only 1 or 2 African-American students out of a typical class of 80 people. If few black students are choosing to enter the business world, few are going to make it to the top.

Is it because the business world is racist? I've been in the corporate world for 13 years now, and you might be interested to know that 3 out of 4 supervisors I've had have been liberals, and in the pod where I am now, I'm the only one who voted for McCain. Most people are college educated, cosmopolitan people, and the number of politically liberal people is sizable.

by: Brent Hardaway

12-26-2009 @ 3:07am

"I'm African-American, and as such it's not something I personally can ignore even if I wanted to (and I'm not the super-sensitive type)."

I'm not saying to ignore it. Just don't exaggerate it. Or portray America as uniquely evil in this regard. What country in the world has as much racial integration in the world as us, or has attempted to do as much to right its wrongs? That doesn't mean we're not guilty or close to being perfect. But in Africa or the Arab world, there's a lot of racial animosity among people of the SAME color skin, even.

"Have you noticed how few blacks get busted for things like insider trading? Think that's a coincidence?"

No, it's not. But it goes beyond racism as an explanation. When I was a business undergrad, there were only 1 or 2 African-American students out of a typical class of 80 people. If few black students are choosing to enter the business world, few are going to make it to the top.

Is it because the business world is racist? I've been in the corporate world for 13 years now, and you might be interested to know that 3 out of 4 supervisors I've had have been liberals, and in the pod where I am now, I'm the only one who voted for McCain. Most people are college educated, cosmopolitan people, and the number of politically liberal people is sizable.

by: BlueDeacon

12-26-2009 @ 3:20am

I'm not saying to ignore it. Just don't exaggerate it. Or portray America as uniquely evil in this regard. What country in the world has as much racial integration in the world as us, or has attempted to do as much to right its wrongs? That doesn't mean we're not guilty or close to being perfect. But in Africa or the Arab world, there's a lot of racial animosity among people of the SAME color skin, even.

Well, in fact the conservative movement in this country has actually tried to roll some of that back; some even said so. Examples of that are simply too numerous to post here, but suffice it to say that the Reagan Administration took the lead in Washington. And no one will accuse Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck, whom many evangelicals listen to, of promoting racial harmony.

But it goes beyond racism as an explanation.

My point is that blacks often don't have the contacts to "move up the ladder" because they don't live in the same neighborhoods, attend the same churches, join the same clubs etc. as the "big shots" -- in other words, they're not part of the "old-boys" network.

by: BlueDeacon

12-26-2009 @ 3:20am

I'm not saying to ignore it. Just don't exaggerate it. Or portray America as uniquely evil in this regard. What country in the world has as much racial integration in the world as us, or has attempted to do as much to right its wrongs? That doesn't mean we're not guilty or close to being perfect. But in Africa or the Arab world, there's a lot of racial animosity among people of the SAME color skin, even.

Well, in fact the conservative movement in this country has actually tried to roll some of that back; some even said so. Examples of that are simply too numerous to post here, but suffice it to say that the Reagan Administration took the lead in Washington. And no one will accuse Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck, whom many evangelicals listen to, of promoting racial harmony.

But it goes beyond racism as an explanation.

My point is that blacks often don't have the contacts to "move up the ladder" because they don't live in the same neighborhoods, attend the same churches, join the same clubs etc. as the "big shots" -- in other words, they're not part of the "old-boys" network.

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 11:38am

So are you saying the media covers people who complain the most about the lack of coverage? In general, the national media does a pretty poor job of making decisions about what is news and what is "news" (i.e. entertainment and controversy).

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 11:38am

So are you saying the media covers people who complain the most about the lack of coverage? In general, the national media does a pretty poor job of making decisions about what is news and what is "news" (i.e. entertainment and controversy).

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 11:39am

Someone forgot to take his cranky pants off before commenting here.

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 11:39am

Someone forgot to take his cranky pants off before commenting here.

by: Rick Nowlin

12-27-2009 @ 5:37pm

That's irrelevant in this case and not what I'm saying. The conservative movement targeted us from the beginning because they figured that if they can create doubt about our integrity they would be able to substitute their propaganda and have people accept it as truth or a legitimate version of such, even while we know all the while that they're distorting it or outright lying. (BTW, I'm a print guy and almost never watch cable news.)

by: Rick Nowlin

12-27-2009 @ 5:37pm

That's irrelevant in this case and not what I'm saying. The conservative movement targeted us from the beginning because they figured that if they can create doubt about our integrity they would be able to substitute their propaganda and have people accept it as truth or a legitimate version of such, even while we know all the while that they're distorting it or outright lying. (BTW, I'm a print guy and almost never watch cable news.)

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 8:19pm

I'm assuming you are the same person as BlueDeacon. I read your comment - "It's because of her legion of fans that she remains in the news in the first place..." to mean that because she has legions of complaining fans the media is somehow compelled to air her views. My hypothetical above was premised on the belief that the media controls what it airs and prints.

by: SamHamilton

12-27-2009 @ 8:19pm

I'm assuming you are the same person as BlueDeacon. I read your comment - "It's because of her legion of fans that she remains in the news in the first place..." to mean that because she has legions of complaining fans the media is somehow compelled to air her views. My hypothetical above was premised on the belief that the media controls what it airs and prints.

by: ford49

12-28-2009 @ 5:41am

I would bet that a lot of African Americans would argue about your characterization of "this point in history" regarding the reality and impact of racism in U.S society. We continue to be asleep to the reality that this country was founded on the genocide of one race of people and the enslavement of another. It's ugly and we compartmentalize this reality and conveniently tuck it away in our "cowboy and indian" mentality...the ramification of this slight of mind impacts our relations with all people of color in our country today. SoJo is not "portrying" anything but it is presenting an uncomfortable truth.

by: ford49

12-28-2009 @ 5:41am

I would bet that a lot of African Americans would argue about your characterization of "this point in history" regarding the reality and impact of racism in U.S society. We continue to be asleep to the reality that this country was founded on the genocide of one race of people and the enslavement of another. It's ugly and we compartmentalize this reality and conveniently tuck it away in our "cowboy and indian" mentality...the ramification of this slight of mind impacts our relations with all people of color in our country today. SoJo is not "portrying" anything but it is presenting an uncomfortable truth.

by: Darnell Barkman

01-07-2010 @ 3:15am

I highly doubt that Tiger didn't care about his family. I'm sure that he was a hurting man, with a lot of loneliness and frustration in life just like the rest of us. He lost touch with what was important and fell to sex like lots of us do. That's why proverbs has Chapters all about staying clear of the wayward woman, because there always seems to be one available when we're weak. I hardly believe that Tiger didn't care about his family, he's not a monster. He's another damaged human that's been lifted to superhuman status and left lonely at the top.

He's clearly another victim of isolationism and individuality in our culture.