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How Obama's Faith Council Worked: Six Points of Consensus

100311-obama-faith-councilAs some of you may know, I served on President Obama's Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships for year one of his administration. Our one-year term is almost up, and yesterday we issued our final report to key members of the administration. The council joined together across religious, political, and ideological lines and achieved a remarkable amount of consensus in six different areas on how the federal government can form better partnerships with faith-based and other nonprofit organizations. Our task force reports ranged from Economic Recovery and Domestic Poverty, to Environment and Climate Change, to Fatherhood and Healthy Families, to Global Poverty and Development, to Inter-religious Cooperation, to Reform of the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

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On Tuesday, the Council presented our report to a group of key administration officials, including Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, USAID Administrator Dr. Raj Shah, chief of staff to the National Security Council Denis McDonough, EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson, and White House Domestic Policy Chief Melody Barnes. The Council also had a warm gathering with the president (an early photo is below).

You can find our full report here -- it's a long but good read, consisting of pragmatic steps for the federal government to take to better partner with faith-based and neighborhood organizations. Some of them were quite challenging: that serious poverty reduction must be a principle of partnership, not just poverty alleviation, that a whole new federal measure for poverty was urgently needed, that promoting fatherhood should be a central pillar of this administration, that shifting development dollars away from the military and corporate contractors to independent non-profit organizations was a crucial move, that political "vetting" of our partners on the ground in many places was counterproductive, that the active engagement of the NGO sector in designing international adaptation strategies for climate change was vital, that multi-religious partnerships were critical for equipping all U.S. agencies involved in international affairs, and that respecting the identity and mission of faith-based organizations was consistent with making sure that all religious partnerships with the government have constitutional integrity. And these were just a few of the 60 recommendations.

There were consistent promises from the administration leaders that these recommendations will be very impactful and that some of the ideas are already being examined for how they can be best implemented. One said the report would be a "work plan" for her department. Of course, in Washington, such promises always need to be tested. Joshua Dubois, the director of the Office on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, and Mara Vanderslice, the deputy director who oversaw the process and production of the task forces and report, both promised that the monitoring and pushing for the implementation of the recommendations would now be central to their work.

This Council is a group of 25 individuals serving one-year terms who provide advice on how the federal government should partner with community and faith-based groups. We worked to identify areas in which innovative partnerships between government and faith-based and community organizations will yield results in serving individuals, families, and communities most in need. The Council was very diverse in both religious and non-religious affiliation, from Evangelical, to Mainline Protestant, to Catholic, to Black Church, to Jewish, Muslim, and Hindu, to secular nonprofits. And not only was the discourse always civil and respectful, even when we disagreed; it soon became clear that we really liked each other and always enjoyed being together! Political nonpartisanship was an assumption from the beginning and this Presidential Council may be one of the very few places in this tumultuous and cantankerous year in Washington that a genuinely bipartisan, moral, and civil tone actually worked.

There has never before been a Presidential Council like this that actively engaged faith and nonprofit leaders in vigorous conversation for a year on necessary changes in national policy. Working out how that would work hasn't always been easy, but the trail has now been blazed and a whole new set of Council members will soon be appointed to take on a whole new set of issues. It was a good experiment and seems to be one that has worked well -- despite the habitual carping of a handful of hard-line secular fundamentalists who really don't think faith communities should have anything to do with public life. The Council and its recommendations showed that the faith community is a deep and powerful resource in the shaping of good domestic and international policy and that such contributions can be made successfully while still respecting and deeply valuing the nation's religious diversity and pluralism, and upholding the Constitution. A committed group of national religious and secular nonprofit leaders showed this year how that could be done and it worked. And we had a lot of fun doing it.

portrait-jim-wallisJim Wallis is the author of Rediscovering Values: On Wall Street, Main Street, and Your Street -- A Moral Compass for the New Economy, CEO of Sojourners and blogs at www.godspolitics.com.

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by: TedVothJr

03-13-2010 @ 3:25am

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

As a citizen and a Christian 'obedient to every ordinance of man', you have no business sitting on a creature of a worldly government. Christ's Kingdom is in the world but not worldly. Every human government is worldly, and 'the world lies in the power of the evil one.'

As representatives of God's now and coming Kingdom, we the Church stand in judgment of the governments of this world, not compromised by an unholy alliance with them. Remember, 'ice cream and horsesh*t.'

by: DHFabian

03-16-2010 @ 5:14pm

Examples are often dependent on state and county policies, but in the proverbial nutshell: Unwed fathers are presented with options and opportunities (higher education, legitimate job skills training, etc.) Our welfare "reform" policies eliminated higher education and skills training for unwed mothers, and workfare requires that they accept bottom wage/no skills jobs that will keep them in poverty. This doesn't even touch on the punitive measures in place that treat mothers much like parolees. If men don't feel like hanging around to help provide for their children. they don't. Period. Usually, these are men without property and assets, who can simply pack up and move away.

by: letjusticerolldown

03-12-2010 @ 11:11pm

I appreciate this column. I would have preferred filling out the story. Does anything take the place of the council? As we saw with Bush who launched into the faith-based work with great gusto--it can lose steam fast. How does producing and presenting a report push anything? Does the faith-based office have the push to do so?

And your praise of the nonpartisan nature of group might be more convincing with examples of partisans from varied sides who set that aside to work on this.

by: Ngchen

03-11-2010 @ 6:21pm

You do realize that there is a difference between weather and climate, right?

by: Nathan Bedford

03-11-2010 @ 5:45pm

"Jim, good work on handling climate change and exposing all the fraud."

Fraud? Anyone who lived through this past winter knows that all this talk about climate change is a fraud. God even sent the major snow storms into Washington DC just to show all those politicians that he means business!

by: Android Tablets

06-14-2011 @ 2:49pm

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 1:15pm

What concerns me about the "promoting fatherhood" idea is that it has often translated into "condemning motherhood". Ideas float around about getting fathers educated, providing job skills training and a range of social services -- but at the expense of the mother and child. When men walk away from their responsibilities, we condemn (and punish) the women and children. As a nation, we've clearly decided (via our welfare "reform") that poverty here is merely a "lifestyle choice" and/or result of "bad attitudes" rather than economic circumstances, illness, etc. The general public doesn't know just how hellish, how painful and degrading, it is to be poor in the US. It's difficult to even start a discussion about poverty when so many of us are so ignorant about the depth and consequences of US poverty. I think there's a general perception that real poverty doesn't exist here (an examination of both the infant mortality and the life expectancy rates among our poor, who often suffer malnutrition, homelessness and lack of basic medical care, might cause you to reconsider that notion).

Our views of our own poor have been shaped by a political agenda (i.e., to defund welfare, using that money instead to cover the costs of massive corporate "tax relief"). We need to re-examine just who America's poor are, and the real reasons for poverty here.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 1:28pm

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

The Constitution ensures that no religion will obtain a role of power within government. The importance of this can't be stressed strongly enough. This doesn't mean that there is no room for input from religious institutions, orgs, etc. Religious values -- as opposed to a specific religion -- played a powerful role in the founding of this country.

by: dnm49

03-13-2010 @ 1:15am

Me thinks Mr. Wallis should spend more time on teaching God's word and winning souls,than playing politics.This has been the downfall of many a christian.

by: umc

03-11-2010 @ 4:19pm

"Our task force reports ranged from Economic Recovery and Domestic Poverty, to Environment and Climate Change, to Fatherhood and Healthy Families, to Global Poverty and Development, to Inter-religious Cooperation, to Reform of the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships."

Jim, good work on handling climate change and exposing all the fraud.

by: letjusticerolldown

03-15-2010 @ 4:23pm

I have no clue how you translate the promotion of fatherhood into an attack on mothers.

Please stop and explain or give one example of what you are talking about.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 3:28pm

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

The Constitution ensures that no religion will obtain a role of power within government. The importance of this can't be stressed strongly enough. This doesn't mean that there is no room for input from religious institutions, orgs, etc. Religious values -- as opposed to a specific religion -- played a powerful role in the founding of this country.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 3:15pm

What concerns me about the "promoting fatherhood" idea is that it has often translated into "condemning motherhood". Ideas float around about getting fathers educated, providing job skills training and a range of social services -- but at the expense of the mother and child. When men walk away from their responsibilities, we condemn (and punish) the women and children. As a nation, we've clearly decided (via our welfare "reform") that poverty here is merely a "lifestyle choice" and/or result of "bad attitudes" rather than economic circumstances, illness, etc. The general public doesn't know just how hellish, how painful and degrading, it is to be poor in the US. It's difficult to even start a discussion about poverty when so many of us are so ignorant about the depth and consequences of US poverty. I think there's a general perception that real poverty doesn't exist here (an examination of both the infant mortality and the life expectancy rates among our poor, who often suffer malnutrition, homelessness and lack of basic medical care, might cause you to reconsider that notion).

Our views of our own poor have been shaped by a political agenda (i.e., to defund welfare, using that money instead to cover the costs of massive corporate "tax relief"). We need to re-examine just who America's poor are, and the real reasons for poverty here.

by: jason

03-12-2010 @ 1:48am

thanks for the great work jim!

by: John Mulholland

03-12-2010 @ 1:05am

You are aware of the multitude of evidence that has been presented over the past few months that "unsettles" the science, right?

by: liberalinlove

03-11-2010 @ 6:28pm

"such contributions can be made successfully while still respecting and deeply valuing the nation's religious diversity and pluralism, and upholding the Constitution."

Thanks again Jim for your service to our country. I am grateful for the affirmation that not only will there be a respect for the diversity and pluralism in our country but that the Constitution will be upheld.

by: TedVothJr

03-13-2010 @ 3:25am

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

As a citizen and a Christian 'obedient to every ordinance of man', you have no business sitting on a creature of a worldly government. Christ's Kingdom is in the world but not worldly. Every human government is worldly, and 'the world lies in the power of the evil one.'

As representatives of God's now and coming Kingdom, we the Church stand in judgment of the governments of this world, not compromised by an unholy alliance with them. Remember, 'ice cream and horsesh*t.'

by: DHFabian

03-16-2010 @ 5:14pm

Examples are often dependent on state and county policies, but in the proverbial nutshell: Unwed fathers are presented with options and opportunities (higher education, legitimate job skills training, etc.) Our welfare "reform" policies eliminated higher education and skills training for unwed mothers, and workfare requires that they accept bottom wage/no skills jobs that will keep them in poverty. This doesn't even touch on the punitive measures in place that treat mothers much like parolees. If men don't feel like hanging around to help provide for their children. they don't. Period. Usually, these are men without property and assets, who can simply pack up and move away.

by: Ngchen

03-11-2010 @ 6:21pm

You do realize that there is a difference between weather and climate, right?

by: Nathan Bedford

03-11-2010 @ 5:45pm

"Jim, good work on handling climate change and exposing all the fraud."

Fraud? Anyone who lived through this past winter knows that all this talk about climate change is a fraud. God even sent the major snow storms into Washington DC just to show all those politicians that he means business!

by: letjusticerolldown

03-12-2010 @ 11:11pm

I appreciate this column. I would have preferred filling out the story. Does anything take the place of the council? As we saw with Bush who launched into the faith-based work with great gusto--it can lose steam fast. How does producing and presenting a report push anything? Does the faith-based office have the push to do so?

And your praise of the nonpartisan nature of group might be more convincing with examples of partisans from varied sides who set that aside to work on this.

by: Android Tablets

06-14-2011 @ 2:49pm

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 1:15pm

What concerns me about the "promoting fatherhood" idea is that it has often translated into "condemning motherhood". Ideas float around about getting fathers educated, providing job skills training and a range of social services -- but at the expense of the mother and child. When men walk away from their responsibilities, we condemn (and punish) the women and children. As a nation, we've clearly decided (via our welfare "reform") that poverty here is merely a "lifestyle choice" and/or result of "bad attitudes" rather than economic circumstances, illness, etc. The general public doesn't know just how hellish, how painful and degrading, it is to be poor in the US. It's difficult to even start a discussion about poverty when so many of us are so ignorant about the depth and consequences of US poverty. I think there's a general perception that real poverty doesn't exist here (an examination of both the infant mortality and the life expectancy rates among our poor, who often suffer malnutrition, homelessness and lack of basic medical care, might cause you to reconsider that notion).

Our views of our own poor have been shaped by a political agenda (i.e., to defund welfare, using that money instead to cover the costs of massive corporate "tax relief"). We need to re-examine just who America's poor are, and the real reasons for poverty here.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 1:28pm

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

The Constitution ensures that no religion will obtain a role of power within government. The importance of this can't be stressed strongly enough. This doesn't mean that there is no room for input from religious institutions, orgs, etc. Religious values -- as opposed to a specific religion -- played a powerful role in the founding of this country.

by: dnm49

03-13-2010 @ 1:15am

Me thinks Mr. Wallis should spend more time on teaching God's word and winning souls,than playing politics.This has been the downfall of many a christian.

by: letjusticerolldown

03-15-2010 @ 4:23pm

I have no clue how you translate the promotion of fatherhood into an attack on mothers.

Please stop and explain or give one example of what you are talking about.

by: umc

03-11-2010 @ 4:19pm

"Our task force reports ranged from Economic Recovery and Domestic Poverty, to Environment and Climate Change, to Fatherhood and Healthy Families, to Global Poverty and Development, to Inter-religious Cooperation, to Reform of the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships."

Jim, good work on handling climate change and exposing all the fraud.

by: jason

03-12-2010 @ 1:48am

thanks for the great work jim!

by: John Mulholland

03-12-2010 @ 1:05am

You are aware of the multitude of evidence that has been presented over the past few months that "unsettles" the science, right?

by: liberalinlove

03-11-2010 @ 6:28pm

"such contributions can be made successfully while still respecting and deeply valuing the nation's religious diversity and pluralism, and upholding the Constitution."

Thanks again Jim for your service to our country. I am grateful for the affirmation that not only will there be a respect for the diversity and pluralism in our country but that the Constitution will be upheld.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 3:28pm

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

The Constitution ensures that no religion will obtain a role of power within government. The importance of this can't be stressed strongly enough. This doesn't mean that there is no room for input from religious institutions, orgs, etc. Religious values -- as opposed to a specific religion -- played a powerful role in the founding of this country.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 3:15pm

What concerns me about the "promoting fatherhood" idea is that it has often translated into "condemning motherhood". Ideas float around about getting fathers educated, providing job skills training and a range of social services -- but at the expense of the mother and child. When men walk away from their responsibilities, we condemn (and punish) the women and children. As a nation, we've clearly decided (via our welfare "reform") that poverty here is merely a "lifestyle choice" and/or result of "bad attitudes" rather than economic circumstances, illness, etc. The general public doesn't know just how hellish, how painful and degrading, it is to be poor in the US. It's difficult to even start a discussion about poverty when so many of us are so ignorant about the depth and consequences of US poverty. I think there's a general perception that real poverty doesn't exist here (an examination of both the infant mortality and the life expectancy rates among our poor, who often suffer malnutrition, homelessness and lack of basic medical care, might cause you to reconsider that notion).

Our views of our own poor have been shaped by a political agenda (i.e., to defund welfare, using that money instead to cover the costs of massive corporate "tax relief"). We need to re-examine just who America's poor are, and the real reasons for poverty here.

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by: umc

03-11-2010 @ 4:19pm

"Our task force reports ranged from Economic Recovery and Domestic Poverty, to Environment and Climate Change, to Fatherhood and Healthy Families, to Global Poverty and Development, to Inter-religious Cooperation, to Reform of the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships."

Jim, good work on handling climate change and exposing all the fraud.

by: umc

03-11-2010 @ 4:19pm

"Our task force reports ranged from Economic Recovery and Domestic Poverty, to Environment and Climate Change, to Fatherhood and Healthy Families, to Global Poverty and Development, to Inter-religious Cooperation, to Reform of the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships."

Jim, good work on handling climate change and exposing all the fraud.

by: Nathan Bedford

03-11-2010 @ 5:45pm

"Jim, good work on handling climate change and exposing all the fraud."

Fraud? Anyone who lived through this past winter knows that all this talk about climate change is a fraud. God even sent the major snow storms into Washington DC just to show all those politicians that he means business!

by: Nathan Bedford

03-11-2010 @ 5:45pm

"Jim, good work on handling climate change and exposing all the fraud."

Fraud? Anyone who lived through this past winter knows that all this talk about climate change is a fraud. God even sent the major snow storms into Washington DC just to show all those politicians that he means business!

by: Ngchen

03-11-2010 @ 6:21pm

You do realize that there is a difference between weather and climate, right?

by: Ngchen

03-11-2010 @ 6:21pm

You do realize that there is a difference between weather and climate, right?

by: liberalinlove

03-11-2010 @ 6:28pm

"such contributions can be made successfully while still respecting and deeply valuing the nation's religious diversity and pluralism, and upholding the Constitution."

Thanks again Jim for your service to our country. I am grateful for the affirmation that not only will there be a respect for the diversity and pluralism in our country but that the Constitution will be upheld.

by: liberalinlove

03-11-2010 @ 6:28pm

"such contributions can be made successfully while still respecting and deeply valuing the nation's religious diversity and pluralism, and upholding the Constitution."

Thanks again Jim for your service to our country. I am grateful for the affirmation that not only will there be a respect for the diversity and pluralism in our country but that the Constitution will be upheld.

by: John Mulholland

03-12-2010 @ 1:05am

You are aware of the multitude of evidence that has been presented over the past few months that "unsettles" the science, right?

by: John Mulholland

03-12-2010 @ 1:05am

You are aware of the multitude of evidence that has been presented over the past few months that "unsettles" the science, right?

by: jason

03-12-2010 @ 1:48am

thanks for the great work jim!

by: jason

03-12-2010 @ 1:48am

thanks for the great work jim!

by: letjusticerolldown

03-12-2010 @ 11:11pm

I appreciate this column. I would have preferred filling out the story. Does anything take the place of the council? As we saw with Bush who launched into the faith-based work with great gusto--it can lose steam fast. How does producing and presenting a report push anything? Does the faith-based office have the push to do so?

And your praise of the nonpartisan nature of group might be more convincing with examples of partisans from varied sides who set that aside to work on this.

by: letjusticerolldown

03-12-2010 @ 11:11pm

I appreciate this column. I would have preferred filling out the story. Does anything take the place of the council? As we saw with Bush who launched into the faith-based work with great gusto--it can lose steam fast. How does producing and presenting a report push anything? Does the faith-based office have the push to do so?

And your praise of the nonpartisan nature of group might be more convincing with examples of partisans from varied sides who set that aside to work on this.

by: dnm49

03-13-2010 @ 1:15am

Me thinks Mr. Wallis should spend more time on teaching God's word and winning souls,than playing politics.This has been the downfall of many a christian.

by: dnm49

03-13-2010 @ 1:15am

Me thinks Mr. Wallis should spend more time on teaching God's word and winning souls,than playing politics.This has been the downfall of many a christian.

by: TedVothJr

03-13-2010 @ 3:25am

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

As a citizen and a Christian 'obedient to every ordinance of man', you have no business sitting on a creature of a worldly government. Christ's Kingdom is in the world but not worldly. Every human government is worldly, and 'the world lies in the power of the evil one.'

As representatives of God's now and coming Kingdom, we the Church stand in judgment of the governments of this world, not compromised by an unholy alliance with them. Remember, 'ice cream and horsesh*t.'

by: TedVothJr

03-13-2010 @ 3:25am

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

As a citizen and a Christian 'obedient to every ordinance of man', you have no business sitting on a creature of a worldly government. Christ's Kingdom is in the world but not worldly. Every human government is worldly, and 'the world lies in the power of the evil one.'

As representatives of God's now and coming Kingdom, we the Church stand in judgment of the governments of this world, not compromised by an unholy alliance with them. Remember, 'ice cream and horsesh*t.'

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 1:15pm

What concerns me about the "promoting fatherhood" idea is that it has often translated into "condemning motherhood". Ideas float around about getting fathers educated, providing job skills training and a range of social services -- but at the expense of the mother and child. When men walk away from their responsibilities, we condemn (and punish) the women and children. As a nation, we've clearly decided (via our welfare "reform") that poverty here is merely a "lifestyle choice" and/or result of "bad attitudes" rather than economic circumstances, illness, etc. The general public doesn't know just how hellish, how painful and degrading, it is to be poor in the US. It's difficult to even start a discussion about poverty when so many of us are so ignorant about the depth and consequences of US poverty. I think there's a general perception that real poverty doesn't exist here (an examination of both the infant mortality and the life expectancy rates among our poor, who often suffer malnutrition, homelessness and lack of basic medical care, might cause you to reconsider that notion).

Our views of our own poor have been shaped by a political agenda (i.e., to defund welfare, using that money instead to cover the costs of massive corporate "tax relief"). We need to re-examine just who America's poor are, and the real reasons for poverty here.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 1:15pm

What concerns me about the "promoting fatherhood" idea is that it has often translated into "condemning motherhood". Ideas float around about getting fathers educated, providing job skills training and a range of social services -- but at the expense of the mother and child. When men walk away from their responsibilities, we condemn (and punish) the women and children. As a nation, we've clearly decided (via our welfare "reform") that poverty here is merely a "lifestyle choice" and/or result of "bad attitudes" rather than economic circumstances, illness, etc. The general public doesn't know just how hellish, how painful and degrading, it is to be poor in the US. It's difficult to even start a discussion about poverty when so many of us are so ignorant about the depth and consequences of US poverty. I think there's a general perception that real poverty doesn't exist here (an examination of both the infant mortality and the life expectancy rates among our poor, who often suffer malnutrition, homelessness and lack of basic medical care, might cause you to reconsider that notion).

Our views of our own poor have been shaped by a political agenda (i.e., to defund welfare, using that money instead to cover the costs of massive corporate "tax relief"). We need to re-examine just who America's poor are, and the real reasons for poverty here.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 1:28pm

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

The Constitution ensures that no religion will obtain a role of power within government. The importance of this can't be stressed strongly enough. This doesn't mean that there is no room for input from religious institutions, orgs, etc. Religious values -- as opposed to a specific religion -- played a powerful role in the founding of this country.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 1:28pm

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

The Constitution ensures that no religion will obtain a role of power within government. The importance of this can't be stressed strongly enough. This doesn't mean that there is no room for input from religious institutions, orgs, etc. Religious values -- as opposed to a specific religion -- played a powerful role in the founding of this country.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 3:15pm

What concerns me about the "promoting fatherhood" idea is that it has often translated into "condemning motherhood". Ideas float around about getting fathers educated, providing job skills training and a range of social services -- but at the expense of the mother and child. When men walk away from their responsibilities, we condemn (and punish) the women and children. As a nation, we've clearly decided (via our welfare "reform") that poverty here is merely a "lifestyle choice" and/or result of "bad attitudes" rather than economic circumstances, illness, etc. The general public doesn't know just how hellish, how painful and degrading, it is to be poor in the US. It's difficult to even start a discussion about poverty when so many of us are so ignorant about the depth and consequences of US poverty. I think there's a general perception that real poverty doesn't exist here (an examination of both the infant mortality and the life expectancy rates among our poor, who often suffer malnutrition, homelessness and lack of basic medical care, might cause you to reconsider that notion).

Our views of our own poor have been shaped by a political agenda (i.e., to defund welfare, using that money instead to cover the costs of massive corporate "tax relief"). We need to re-examine just who America's poor are, and the real reasons for poverty here.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 3:15pm

What concerns me about the "promoting fatherhood" idea is that it has often translated into "condemning motherhood". Ideas float around about getting fathers educated, providing job skills training and a range of social services -- but at the expense of the mother and child. When men walk away from their responsibilities, we condemn (and punish) the women and children. As a nation, we've clearly decided (via our welfare "reform") that poverty here is merely a "lifestyle choice" and/or result of "bad attitudes" rather than economic circumstances, illness, etc. The general public doesn't know just how hellish, how painful and degrading, it is to be poor in the US. It's difficult to even start a discussion about poverty when so many of us are so ignorant about the depth and consequences of US poverty. I think there's a general perception that real poverty doesn't exist here (an examination of both the infant mortality and the life expectancy rates among our poor, who often suffer malnutrition, homelessness and lack of basic medical care, might cause you to reconsider that notion).

Our views of our own poor have been shaped by a political agenda (i.e., to defund welfare, using that money instead to cover the costs of massive corporate "tax relief"). We need to re-examine just who America's poor are, and the real reasons for poverty here.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 3:28pm

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

The Constitution ensures that no religion will obtain a role of power within government. The importance of this can't be stressed strongly enough. This doesn't mean that there is no room for input from religious institutions, orgs, etc. Religious values -- as opposed to a specific religion -- played a powerful role in the founding of this country.

by: DHFabian

03-13-2010 @ 3:28pm

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.'

The Constitution ensures that no religion will obtain a role of power within government. The importance of this can't be stressed strongly enough. This doesn't mean that there is no room for input from religious institutions, orgs, etc. Religious values -- as opposed to a specific religion -- played a powerful role in the founding of this country.

by: letjusticerolldown

03-15-2010 @ 4:23pm

I have no clue how you translate the promotion of fatherhood into an attack on mothers.

Please stop and explain or give one example of what you are talking about.

by: letjusticerolldown

03-15-2010 @ 4:23pm

I have no clue how you translate the promotion of fatherhood into an attack on mothers.

Please stop and explain or give one example of what you are talking about.

by: DHFabian

03-16-2010 @ 5:14pm

Examples are often dependent on state and county policies, but in the proverbial nutshell: Unwed fathers are presented with options and opportunities (higher education, legitimate job skills training, etc.) Our welfare "reform" policies eliminated higher education and skills training for unwed mothers, and workfare requires that they accept bottom wage/no skills jobs that will keep them in poverty. This doesn't even touch on the punitive measures in place that treat mothers much like parolees. If men don't feel like hanging around to help provide for their children. they don't. Period. Usually, these are men without property and assets, who can simply pack up and move away.

by: DHFabian

03-16-2010 @ 5:14pm

Examples are often dependent on state and county policies, but in the proverbial nutshell: Unwed fathers are presented with options and opportunities (higher education, legitimate job skills training, etc.) Our welfare "reform" policies eliminated higher education and skills training for unwed mothers, and workfare requires that they accept bottom wage/no skills jobs that will keep them in poverty. This doesn't even touch on the punitive measures in place that treat mothers much like parolees. If men don't feel like hanging around to help provide for their children. they don't. Period. Usually, these are men without property and assets, who can simply pack up and move away.

by: Android Tablets

06-14-2011 @ 2:49pm

by: Android Tablets

06-14-2011 @ 2:49pm