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Memorial Day: Giving Our Full Measure of Devotion to Peace

Utopia. It is the place that is no place. It is the reality that does not yet exist. It is the political economy that has no politics or economics. Yet. A utopian vision is important. It is important to see the possibilities, the potentialities of the future in the now. Scripture teaches: "write the vision; make it plain on tablets so that a runner may read it. For there is still a vision for the appointed time; it speaks of the end, and does not lie."

The just peace vision is one of a world where violent conflict is obsolete. No one dies in wars large or small. Memorial Day is a day to remember the bad old days when human imagination could not conceive of the end of warfare. The just peace vision is a world where we understand that economic justice is necessary for peace. Thus, we work to make certain that everyone has the basic needs of life -- food, clothing, shelter, clean water, health care, education, and security. It is a world where we solve conflict with patient and determined diplomacy, where human beings have lost their fear of one another and have learned to listen to each other with respect. In this vision, human beings have learned the moral lesson that what is good is good for everyone, including the environment.

We cannot bring the vision to fruition if we do not believe that such is possible. Rather than acting in faith, we go with what we know. We know human fear, greed, and will to power. We know the bluster of ultimatum. We know the will to vengeance. We know less of love, generosity, the will to cooperation, and forgiveness. However, these virtues are not completely unknown. They are not impossible to live and to expand to the level of international conflict.

Some of us believe that the vision of a world without war will only come when Jesus returns. It is a Messianic dream. I say: when we live the teachings of Jesus, when we love our enemies, turn the other cheek, bless those who curse us, pray for those who abuse us, walk the extra mile, care for the stranger and for the hungry, thirsty, naked, sick and imprisoned, Jesus is living and working through us. Each instance of our care is a messianic moment. We are the hands and feet of the living God.

The just peace vision of a world without war is possible when we become living sacrifices to the teaching of Jesus. We all ought to wage pace daily. Memorial Day is a day to remember those who have fallen in war. The origins of the day are multiple. One story recalls the work of freed slaves in South Carolina who, after the Civil War, exhumed bodies from a mass grave and buried each in an individual grave. When the work was done, they celebrated those who had given the last full measure of devotion with sermons, singing, and a picnic. This Memorial Day, let us see and believe the just peace vision and give the full measure of our living devotion to bring into being a world where war is no more.

Dr. Valerie Elverton Dixon is an independent scholar who publishes lectures and essays at JustPeaceTheory.com. She received her Ph.D. in religion and society from Temple University and taught Christian ethics at United Theological Seminary and Andover Newton Theological School.

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Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

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You say "The just peace vision of a world without war is possible when we become living sacrifices to the teaching of Jesus", but the Lord Jesus Christ says otherwise, there will always be wars until He returns to judge the world, read from Matthew 24...

1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2"Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

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You say "The just peace vision of a world without war is possible when we become living sacrifices to the teaching of Jesus", but the Lord Jesus Christ says otherwise, there will always be wars until He returns to judge the world, read from Matthew 24...

1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2"Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

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In this chapter we have an answer expected by the prophet (v. 1), and returned by the Spirit of God, to the complaints which the prophet made of the violences and victories of the Chaldeans in the close of the foregoing chapter. The answer is, I. That after God has served his own purposes by the prevailing power of the Chaldeans, has tried the faith and patience of his people, and distinguished between the hypocrites and the sincere among them, he will reckon with the Chaldeans, will humble and bring down, not only that proud monarch Nebuchadnezzar, but that proud monarchy, for their boundless and insatiable thirst after dominion and wealth, for which they themselves should at length be made a prey (v. 2-8). II. That not they only, but all other sinners like them, should perish under a divine woe. 1. Those that are covetous, are greedy of wealth and honours (v. 9, 11). 2. Those that are injurious and oppressive, and raise estates by wrong and rapine (v. 12-14). 3. Those that promote drunkenness that they may expose their neighbours to shame (v. 15-17). 4. Those that worship idols (v. 18-20).

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I've mentioned your post in my own on blog below:

http://www.learnprayblog.org/2010/05/memorial-d...

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peace is not the absence of conflict. it is just and right to confront evil and it is wrong to ignore it. Saddam Hussein is a good example of this - thank goodness we had the moral will to do what was right and save so many innocent lives.

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05-31-2010 @ 3:22pm

The Bible does indeed say there will be peace for Christians AFTER the world is judged when the Lord Jesus comes back, read Revelation 21:1-8:

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

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05-31-2010 @ 3:41pm

You say "The just peace vision of a world without war is possible when we become living sacrifices to the teaching of Jesus", but the Lord Jesus Christ says otherwise, there will always be wars until He returns to judge the world, read from Matthew 24...

1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2"Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

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INTRO

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 5:29pm

You quote "write the vision; make it plain on tablets so that a runner may read it. For there is still a vision for the appointed time; it speaks of the end, and does not lie." This quote is from Habakkak chapter 2, the vision has ALREADY been fulfilled, read Matthew Henry's commentary on this chapter:

In this chapter we have an answer expected by the prophet (v. 1), and returned by the Spirit of God, to the complaints which the prophet made of the violences and victories of the Chaldeans in the close of the foregoing chapter. The answer is, I. That after God has served his own purposes by the prevailing power of the Chaldeans, has tried the faith and patience of his people, and distinguished between the hypocrites and the sincere among them, he will reckon with the Chaldeans, will humble and bring down, not only that proud monarch Nebuchadnezzar, but that proud monarchy, for their boundless and insatiable thirst after dominion and wealth, for which they themselves should at length be made a prey (v. 2-8). II. That not they only, but all other sinners like them, should perish under a divine woe. 1. Those that are covetous, are greedy of wealth and honours (v. 9, 11). 2. Those that are injurious and oppressive, and raise estates by wrong and rapine (v. 12-14). 3. Those that promote drunkenness that they may expose their neighbours to shame (v. 15-17). 4. Those that worship idols (v. 18-20).

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In practice, I am convinced that we'll never have heaven on earth, and that there will be some level of violence and greed here at least until the second coming. That being said, it does not follow that we can't strive to make things more just, more fair, and more peaceful than what we have today.

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05-30-2010 @ 5:38am

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by: maestas

05-31-2010 @ 5:50am

peace is not the absence of conflict. it is just and right to confront evil and it is wrong to ignore it. Saddam Hussein is a good example of this - thank goodness we had the moral will to do what was right and save so many innocent lives.

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05-31-2010 @ 5:50am

peace is not the absence of conflict. it is just and right to confront evil and it is wrong to ignore it. Saddam Hussein is a good example of this - thank goodness we had the moral will to do what was right and save so many innocent lives.

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 3:22pm

The Bible does indeed say there will be peace for Christians AFTER the world is judged when the Lord Jesus comes back, read Revelation 21:1-8:

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 3:22pm

The Bible does indeed say there will be peace for Christians AFTER the world is judged when the Lord Jesus comes back, read Revelation 21:1-8:

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 3:22pm

The Bible does indeed say there will be peace for Christians AFTER the world is judged when the Lord Jesus comes back, read Revelation 21:1-8:

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 3:41pm

You say "The just peace vision of a world without war is possible when we become living sacrifices to the teaching of Jesus", but the Lord Jesus Christ says otherwise, there will always be wars until He returns to judge the world, read from Matthew 24...

1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2"Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 3:41pm

You say "The just peace vision of a world without war is possible when we become living sacrifices to the teaching of Jesus", but the Lord Jesus Christ says otherwise, there will always be wars until He returns to judge the world, read from Matthew 24...

1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2"Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 3:41pm

You say "The just peace vision of a world without war is possible when we become living sacrifices to the teaching of Jesus", but the Lord Jesus Christ says otherwise, there will always be wars until He returns to judge the world, read from Matthew 24...

1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2"Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 5:29pm

You quote "write the vision; make it plain on tablets so that a runner may read it. For there is still a vision for the appointed time; it speaks of the end, and does not lie." This quote is from Habakkak chapter 2, the vision has ALREADY been fulfilled, read Matthew Henry's commentary on this chapter:

In this chapter we have an answer expected by the prophet (v. 1), and returned by the Spirit of God, to the complaints which the prophet made of the violences and victories of the Chaldeans in the close of the foregoing chapter. The answer is, I. That after God has served his own purposes by the prevailing power of the Chaldeans, has tried the faith and patience of his people, and distinguished between the hypocrites and the sincere among them, he will reckon with the Chaldeans, will humble and bring down, not only that proud monarch Nebuchadnezzar, but that proud monarchy, for their boundless and insatiable thirst after dominion and wealth, for which they themselves should at length be made a prey (v. 2-8). II. That not they only, but all other sinners like them, should perish under a divine woe. 1. Those that are covetous, are greedy of wealth and honours (v. 9, 11). 2. Those that are injurious and oppressive, and raise estates by wrong and rapine (v. 12-14). 3. Those that promote drunkenness that they may expose their neighbours to shame (v. 15-17). 4. Those that worship idols (v. 18-20).

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 5:29pm

You quote "write the vision; make it plain on tablets so that a runner may read it. For there is still a vision for the appointed time; it speaks of the end, and does not lie." This quote is from Habakkak chapter 2, the vision has ALREADY been fulfilled, read Matthew Henry's commentary on this chapter:

In this chapter we have an answer expected by the prophet (v. 1), and returned by the Spirit of God, to the complaints which the prophet made of the violences and victories of the Chaldeans in the close of the foregoing chapter. The answer is, I. That after God has served his own purposes by the prevailing power of the Chaldeans, has tried the faith and patience of his people, and distinguished between the hypocrites and the sincere among them, he will reckon with the Chaldeans, will humble and bring down, not only that proud monarch Nebuchadnezzar, but that proud monarchy, for their boundless and insatiable thirst after dominion and wealth, for which they themselves should at length be made a prey (v. 2-8). II. That not they only, but all other sinners like them, should perish under a divine woe. 1. Those that are covetous, are greedy of wealth and honours (v. 9, 11). 2. Those that are injurious and oppressive, and raise estates by wrong and rapine (v. 12-14). 3. Those that promote drunkenness that they may expose their neighbours to shame (v. 15-17). 4. Those that worship idols (v. 18-20).

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 5:29pm

You quote "write the vision; make it plain on tablets so that a runner may read it. For there is still a vision for the appointed time; it speaks of the end, and does not lie." This quote is from Habakkak chapter 2, the vision has ALREADY been fulfilled, read Matthew Henry's commentary on this chapter:

In this chapter we have an answer expected by the prophet (v. 1), and returned by the Spirit of God, to the complaints which the prophet made of the violences and victories of the Chaldeans in the close of the foregoing chapter. The answer is, I. That after God has served his own purposes by the prevailing power of the Chaldeans, has tried the faith and patience of his people, and distinguished between the hypocrites and the sincere among them, he will reckon with the Chaldeans, will humble and bring down, not only that proud monarch Nebuchadnezzar, but that proud monarchy, for their boundless and insatiable thirst after dominion and wealth, for which they themselves should at length be made a prey (v. 2-8). II. That not they only, but all other sinners like them, should perish under a divine woe. 1. Those that are covetous, are greedy of wealth and honours (v. 9, 11). 2. Those that are injurious and oppressive, and raise estates by wrong and rapine (v. 12-14). 3. Those that promote drunkenness that they may expose their neighbours to shame (v. 15-17). 4. Those that worship idols (v. 18-20).

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 5:43pm

A "Bird's Eye View" of the Sermon on the Mount
Matthew 5:1-2, 7:28-29

INTRO

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 5:43pm

A "Bird's Eye View" of the Sermon on the Mount
Matthew 5:1-2, 7:28-29

INTRO

by: LFT

05-31-2010 @ 5:43pm

A "Bird's Eye View" of the Sermon on the Mount
Matthew 5:1-2, 7:28-29

INTRO

by: Ali M. Faruk

05-31-2010 @ 7:01pm

Valerie, you write about an important topic. Although I believe that sometimes war is necessary, it is far less necessary than most people think. We should definitely take this solemn time of Memorial Day to think about the real sacrifices people have made and how it is not to be taken lightly. We should make sure we reflect, as you say, on the importance of creating a world where we put a priority on building peace and justice.

I've mentioned your post in my own on blog below:

http://www.learnprayblog.org/2010/05/memorial-d...

by: Ali M. Faruk

05-31-2010 @ 7:01pm

Valerie, you write about an important topic. Although I believe that sometimes war is necessary, it is far less necessary than most people think. We should definitely take this solemn time of Memorial Day to think about the real sacrifices people have made and how it is not to be taken lightly. We should make sure we reflect, as you say, on the importance of creating a world where we put a priority on building peace and justice.

I've mentioned your post in my own on blog below:

http://www.learnprayblog.org/2010/05/memorial-d...

by: PaintItRed

05-31-2010 @ 10:54pm

I guess my question is whether utopian ideals lead to oppressive governments.

by: PaintItRed

05-31-2010 @ 10:54pm

I guess my question is whether utopian ideals lead to oppressive governments.

by: PaintItRed

05-31-2010 @ 10:54pm

I guess my question is whether utopian ideals lead to oppressive governments.

by: Ngchen

06-01-2010 @ 6:20pm

The way I see it, utopian ideals can lead to oppressive governments, but only if there is the mentality that we can somehow create utopia if we only got rid of the blank. (Of course, fill in the blank with whatever group that happens to be most convenient as a scapegoat.)

In practice, I am convinced that we'll never have heaven on earth, and that there will be some level of violence and greed here at least until the second coming. That being said, it does not follow that we can't strive to make things more just, more fair, and more peaceful than what we have today.

by: Ngchen

06-01-2010 @ 6:20pm

The way I see it, utopian ideals can lead to oppressive governments, but only if there is the mentality that we can somehow create utopia if we only got rid of the blank. (Of course, fill in the blank with whatever group that happens to be most convenient as a scapegoat.)

In practice, I am convinced that we'll never have heaven on earth, and that there will be some level of violence and greed here at least until the second coming. That being said, it does not follow that we can't strive to make things more just, more fair, and more peaceful than what we have today.

by: Ngchen

06-01-2010 @ 6:20pm

The way I see it, utopian ideals can lead to oppressive governments, but only if there is the mentality that we can somehow create utopia if we only got rid of the blank. (Of course, fill in the blank with whatever group that happens to be most convenient as a scapegoat.)

In practice, I am convinced that we'll never have heaven on earth, and that there will be some level of violence and greed here at least until the second coming. That being said, it does not follow that we can't strive to make things more just, more fair, and more peaceful than what we have today.

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