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Shirley Sherrod's True Revelation

The controversy over the injustice done to Shirley Sherrod, the African-American woman whose comments on race were taken out of context, misreported, and who was fired from her job at the U.S. Department of Agriculture does not capture the essence of her personal journey. While we focus on the media and the craven haste of her dismissal, her testimony fades into the background. Shirley Sherrod's testimony is that she came to realize that the major problem in the United States is not race, but class.

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When Shirley Sherrod was 17 years old, her father was killed by white men in Georgia. There were three witnesses, but the murder was never punished because a grand jury refused to indict. Another relative was lynched, and the white man accused of his murder was set free. Later he was tried and convicted for depriving his victim of his civil rights. The conviction was overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court because the prosecution could not prove that the killer was thinking of depriving his victim of his civil rights at the time of the murder. The prosecution could not prove intent.

After her father's death, a gang of white men burned a cross on her family's lawn. Her mother was not intimidated, but faced the gang with her gun. She called a group of black men who came to the house, surrounded the white men, and told them to be on their way.

She tells of the night of her father's funeral when she made a commitment to stay in the south. This was a reversal from her ambition to leave the south, the farm, and the racial hatred and violence of the south in those days. She tells of praying, seeking God's direction in how she could serve God in the south. She had no idea what she would do. God opened the door for her to work with farmers helping them to save their land. She said: "When you are true to what God wants you to do, the path just opens up."

One day a white farmer came to her office for help. She says he came with an attitude of superiority that was off-putting. She decided to put him in touch with a white lawyer she thought could help him. When she learned that the white lawyer refused to do all he could to help the man save his farm, she called everyone she knew who could help the man. In the end, she was successful and the man was able to keep his farm.

The episode was a revelation to her. She realized that: "It's about the poor vs. those who have. It opened my eyes." In her speech she goes on to recall the history of race in America. There was once a time when both blacks and whites worked as indentured servants. The moment slavery for life was instituted only for blacks, the racial divide was established and has haunted this country from that day to this. Shirley Sherrod's revelation is that this racial divide serves the elite. The rich get richer, and the rest fight over the scrapes and race.

At the end of Martin Luther King Jr.'s life, he was in the midst of organizing a Poor People's March on Washington. He had come to recognize that poor people of every race were suffering the same injustices and living economically marginal lives. It is time to begin again where King ended and refuse to let race divide us as we work for economic justice in the United States and in the world.

Dr. Valerie Elverton Dixon is an independent scholar who publishes lectures and essays at JustPeaceTheory.com. She received her PhD in religion and society from Temple University and taught Christian ethics at United Theological Seminary and Andover Newton Theological School.

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by: BlueDeacon

07-26-2010 @ 3:55pm

Concerning that "conservative propaganda structure," believe the progressives have matched it.

Ridiculous, because if that were true the conservatives would have given chapter-and-verse specifics. OTOH, there are a myriad of books and newspaper and magazine articles about the conservative propaganda structure, all heavily-sourced and none of them conservatives have ever tried to deny.

by: judithod

07-26-2010 @ 12:52am

I believe your anger and accusations are disproportionate to my responses, Patricia. Breitbart is certainly being held accountable by many people, including his peers in the media. On the other hand, Sherrod is not being held accountable for racist and class comments made in her speech. The edited version on which many have chosen to focus is that selection about her epiphany concerning the white farmer. That epiphany doesn't extend to "folks with money" or to Republicans who disagree with the issue of health care because of a "black president." Sherrod clearly disparages those she views as being and thinking differently than she.

Both Breitbart and Sherrod are carrying "baggage" and are speaking "truths" on behalf of their respective beliefs.

Have you ever read Richard Rohr? Here's a quote from his writing that I think is apt to the racist/class debates that have erupted: "The calculative mind, or the egocentric mind, reads everything in terms of personal advantage and personal preferences. As long as we read reality from that small self with a narrow and calculating mind, I don't think we're going to see things in any new or truly helpful way."

by: BlueDeacon

07-26-2010 @ 3:55pm

Concerning that "conservative propaganda structure," believe the progressives have matched it.

Ridiculous, because if that were true the conservatives would have given chapter-and-verse specifics. OTOH, there are a myriad of books and newspaper and magazine articles about the conservative propaganda structure, all heavily-sourced and none of them conservatives have ever tried to deny.

by: DeborahDakin

07-22-2010 @ 7:57pm

For me, "the lesson is...
If all of us are racist,
... all of us are racist."
Would you say if all of us are greedy, then none of us are?
Just because I acknowledge my own racism, does not mean others do not suffer from it as well. I can't begin to deal with it if I don't acknowledge it.
All of us are sinners. It is our shared humanity that helps us to address our sins without fear and to join in creating the kingdom of God.

by: Eaglerock

07-26-2010 @ 2:22am

And just what did he do do deserve this treatment?

The controversy over the video was not about Ms. Sherrod, it was about the cheering crowd of NAACP members at her recalling how she treated the white farmer. The same NAACP who labeled fellow American tea partiers "racist" without showing a shred of evidence.

by: Patricia

07-26-2010 @ 3:26am

Perhaps you ought to read that Rohr comment again - I believe it just might help you :).

by: calledme

07-24-2010 @ 4:12am

Everyone is racist -- to some extent. We're not far enough from our national, generational past to have learned otherwise. What saves us is the vast number of people who recognize their racism, confess it, and work for jutice against the raw tendencies of their human nature.

The scariest people I know are those who say, "I'm not racist, but..."Yes they are, and not in an honest, humble way.

And then, of course, there are those who intentionally exploit the racism of others who might have confessed and worked, because maintaining racism serves personal purposes. Hatred is an amazing thing, both mentally and in the way it gives us the addictive and yet destructive rush of all our stress hormones.

Love, overcoming our own minds and body chemistry, is too much work. Reading enough Sojo blog comments over time is evidence of that.

by: kansasmennonite

07-26-2010 @ 3:13am

Eagle quote:"And just what did he do do deserve this treatment? "

You're joking aren't you? How would you like it if someone put a speech you gave on natl media with it edited to demean you out of context that caused you to be fired inadvertently? This is a sin that needs to be called out. To back Breitbart and still look for justification for this is uncalled for. We can probably find things that you have said or situations that make you look bad but recordings don't exist and nobody is that mean to demonize you.

by: calledme

07-24-2010 @ 4:12am

Everyone is racist -- to some extent. We're not far enough from our national, generational past to have learned otherwise. What saves us is the vast number of people who recognize their racism, confess it, and work for jutice against the raw tendencies of their human nature.

The scariest people I know are those who say, "I'm not racist, but..."Yes they are, and not in an honest, humble way.

And then, of course, there are those who intentionally exploit the racism of others who might have confessed and worked, because maintaining racism serves personal purposes. Hatred is an amazing thing, both mentally and in the way it gives us the addictive and yet destructive rush of all our stress hormones.

Love, overcoming our own minds and body chemistry, is too much work. Reading enough Sojo blog comments over time is evidence of that.

by: judithod

07-26-2010 @ 4:40pm

Suggest you read about "journolist."

by: sigride

07-22-2010 @ 9:39pm

Thank you for telling this great story. And yes, class is a huge problem in this country. I know the race thing isn't over, but praise God we've come as far as we have.

Finally, many good people are defamed when their comments and actions are taken out of context. We all need to be slow to speak against them.

by: judithod

07-26-2010 @ 4:40pm

Suggest you read about "journolist."

by: sigride

07-22-2010 @ 9:39pm

Thank you for telling this great story. And yes, class is a huge problem in this country. I know the race thing isn't over, but praise God we've come as far as we have.

Finally, many good people are defamed when their comments and actions are taken out of context. We all need to be slow to speak against them.

by: Fozzy_bear

07-22-2010 @ 9:23pm

I find it amusing that, of all the news programs and commentators on FOX News, Glenn Beck was only one who didn't blow this story out of proportion. He didn't even mention it the night the story broke (probably because he hadn't heard about it yet), and, when he did mention the story the next night, he spent most of time defending Sherrod because he didn't know the full context of the scenario.

Maybe he was just being shrewd, and I'm sure he will probably find a way of defending FOX's actions, but kudos to Mr. Beck for being on the same side as Sojourners for once.

by: mikey1941

07-26-2010 @ 6:22pm

John, like you, I find myself at odds sometimes with my black, Mexican, and Asian friends when they claim something I have said is racist and I just KNOW it wasn't racist. I greatly value their long term friendship and am grateful we can discuss this though. I have learned that if THEY think something is racist, it just doesn't matter what I think. It has the same effect as a racist comment, and it offends them, or makes them uncomfortable, so it doesn't really matter my intent-its something I should not have said.
I have evolved to a solid conviction that the only ones who can judge whether or not something is racist are the folks who are offended. The intent of what we mean, just doesn't matter. We need to learn these (many) lessons and just not offend.

by: dlowen

07-26-2010 @ 2:00pm

There have been a number of comments that all of us are racists to some extent, and I believe that is the whole point of the Breitbart/Fox campaign to discredit Ms. Sherrod, to make the racist elements of the Tea Party (Don't you wish they would have stuck with Tea Baggers?) feel justified. It reminds me of the school yard, "Oh yeah, we'll you're one too!"

I think we all have our racial prejudices, but that doesn't make us all racists. Racism is much more that feeling of being justified in mistreating others based on their skin color, hair color, the shape of their eyes, etc, as though these things some how indicated their worth. I try to imagine what it would be like to live in a country that claims liberty and justice for all, but whose social institutions say that white men should have the freedom to take my father's life because his skin is black. If that alone, not to mention the other lynchings, cross burnings, and daily insults, would not make one bitter, I have no idea what would. Why would anyone vow to stay in a place like that just to help other people?

If you listen to Ms. Sherrod's comments, I heard a tinge of that childhood pain and anger in discussing her meeting with Mr. Spooner. However, Mr. Spooner was not the target of her anger, but rather his "wasting [her] time" trying to make it clear that while he needed her help, he was still superior to her. She took him to a white lawyer which should have made everyone feel more comfortable. When Mr. Spooner could not get the help he needed from anyone else in the system, Ms. Sherrod felt compassion and helped him save his farm.

This is the story that should have been gleaned from Shirley Sherrod's speech. The priest and the levite passed by one of their own and left it to the Samaritan to help the man in need. I really don't think the fact that Jesus told the same story makes Him a racist either.

by: mikey1941

07-26-2010 @ 6:22pm

John, like you, I find myself at odds sometimes with my black, Mexican, and Asian friends when they claim something I have said is racist and I just KNOW it wasn't racist. I greatly value their long term friendship and am grateful we can discuss this though. I have learned that if THEY think something is racist, it just doesn't matter what I think. It has the same effect as a racist comment, and it offends them, or makes them uncomfortable, so it doesn't really matter my intent-its something I should not have said.
I have evolved to a solid conviction that the only ones who can judge whether or not something is racist are the folks who are offended. The intent of what we mean, just doesn't matter. We need to learn these (many) lessons and just not offend.

by: Stein

07-26-2010 @ 1:59pm

Consider what could have been.

What if Sherrod's remarks really had been racist-as-advertised and if Obama had waited the day to thoroughly investigate and verify before taking action?

My guess is that the Republican propaganda machine would have been all over accusing Obama of racism, of stonewalling, of implicitly defending and endorsing Sherrod by not taking immediate action. The attack dogs allow no time for rational thought, no time for due deliberation. This looked from the start like the pharisee's presenting Jesus with a woman caught in adultery in order to trap Jesus. The Republicans wanted to trap Obama. Knowing from the immigration issue and the Tea Partiers that they are politically vulnerable to charges of racism, they want instances to point to and say "see, they are too" -- and if those instances are trumped-up it really doesn't affect their argument.

So it was a good trap:

If Sherrod was racist and Obama fired her --> good for Republicans.

If Sherrod was not racist and Obama fired her --> good for Republicans -- as we see now, they accuse Obama of racism.

And if Obama did not fire Sherrod immediately --> attack Obama as racist.

The problem here may be that Democrats are too intimidated by the Republican attack machine -- the NAACP and the admin could not risk the viciousness even to hold off and verify facts before acting.

But the deeper problem is the TERRIBLE, SINFULL, VICIOUSNESS of the Republican attack machine.

Make no mistake. There is no parity in the actions of the two parties.

by: BlueDeacon

07-26-2010 @ 6:02pm

Say wha--?

by: Patricia

07-26-2010 @ 2:18pm

It's always easier to justify oneself by smearing and shifting the focus to another than it is to repent and ask forgiveness for one's own sins.

by: BlueDeacon

07-26-2010 @ 6:02pm

Say wha--?

by: Jerry Gates

07-24-2010 @ 10:34am

Thanks to Dr Valerie Burton Dixon for this understanding article .

In schools students exhibiting animosities based on racial issues are reprimanded, given some punishment or time out and asked to consider what they say to others before speaking. In the work place these oft made racial innuendo and slights may be handled between persons involved and successfully lead to closer friendships and a better work environment,In politics one false move in the race arena and you mocked, stocked and pilloried in the public square, denounced by your constituents and ostracized by your community.

Washington DC plays hardball with such as Shirley Sherrod for a misconstrued statement, taken out of it's contexts and intention, but seemingly allows the wealthiest criminals on the planet free reign in chambers and in the public squares to rake people like Sherrod over the public coals of accusation. Sherrod ,an outspoken woman of color, a scholar, advocate for African Americans and more specifically, POOR Americans, shows clearly that her assertions are not only correct, but understated in the extreme for the sake of prudence in not embarrassing her boss and his cabinet but more to the point, the rich ones are cutting the legs from under the poor and no calls for wealthy elites, as yet, to report to the dunce cap and stool in the corner of their classes. Why?

It's easy to pick on poor people isn't it? After all, are they going to hire a lawyer and go after rich man if he calls someone a hurtful name or are they going to chalk it up to experience, turn the other cheek and forgive and forget? What choice have the poor in such circumstances? They live with some grief......

Anyone who doesn't see that the money in this nation is gravitating upward, into bankers, insurance mavens and utilities, military procurements contractors and highway contractors hands is as blind as a bat and without the sonar . The US , just like Greece, is letting the rich run roughshod over the poor, stealing their entitlements with bribes, threats of exodus or both, just to be richer, more influential and more worshiped for their ascension on Jacob's American dream ladder.

Rich plutocrats now fashioning themselves as populists are selling politics as barkers from medicine show wagons to dumb and dumber Americans who are both poor and ignorant of their own aiding and abetting such crimes as insurance theft by insurance companies, bank fraud, by bankers, and callusion to extort , by the very judges in the highest seats on US courts, corporate givaways to plutocrats are common place, every day americana, but service to the poor is relegated to the back burners of the private sector and weakly administered by Welfare fraudsters on the federal dole and grafters wagons.

So, in retrospect, Americas press is a primarily corpoarte entity with few owners and a general demenar inclined to skewer any hapless fool who misbehaves in a few areas of basic concern, You dont dis the rich, Obama proved that out by stating that he is a friend to big business as he attempts to regulate their actions post world economic meltdown, hence the regulations come out of an overcooked pasta pot like jello starch, unrecognizable as any kind of good thing for the poor, but because flowery language packaged it all in rises and ribbons with bows, the people are duped again by the rich and one less advocate for the poor remains standing in the US discourse,....

Another day another dollar made on the back of a black woman whose virtue was to much for the mealy mouthed US press and it;s awkwardly myopic owners and purveyors. Here's a hint for the future USof A, the libertarians fueling these fires are intent on fuedal society in their lifetimes and will lie, cheat steal and defame anyone to have the power of governance in their hands, Tea party Democrats GOP or Green Party????? I would say that of the four, any American who votes for the Tea party is going to find the party heads throwing the people overboard and stealing the tea for their private use and profits. Hint number two would be this, stifleing dissent in a class war that is destiny for this nation is a fools errand, let this eagle fly America, the birds in power today are vultures, they eat the scraps of dead things, Eagles hunt for their food themselves and when someone tries to steal, blood is drawn, We the people should sharpen claws and beak and prepare to defend OUR MEALS from the VULTURES. God is a myterious force, it is said, but that is the only mystery there in terms of who Jesus is and what his job is, look it up, Sojourners, St Francis had it right, being poor is a virtue of the soul and has it's rewards, but remebering the eye of the needle that Christ described as the rich man's gate to heaven, some wise thought should be given to the importance of gathering stores selfishly, while alienating the poor from their posts. Reward for stealing may not be worth the temporary fix of being rich in other's tired and aching backs.

It is the rich who see that fear is losing it, the poor see this fear and rightfully taunt and accuse the rich, knowing that the ones with nothing have no fear , the rich attack with lies to shield themselves from discovery. Thieves are thieves, some poor some rich, petty thieves end up in jail, the robber baron walk and get a fat bonus in this country, Are we broken yet, or are we going to keep imagining that this capitalist debauchery can be fixed with duct tape and bullshit?

by: Jerry Gates

07-24-2010 @ 10:34am

Thanks to Dr Valerie Burton Dixon for this understanding article .

In schools students exhibiting animosities based on racial issues are reprimanded, given some punishment or time out and asked to consider what they say to others before speaking. In the work place these oft made racial innuendo and slights may be handled between persons involved and successfully lead to closer friendships and a better work environment,In politics one false move in the race arena and you mocked, stocked and pilloried in the public square, denounced by your constituents and ostracized by your community.

Washington DC plays hardball with such as Shirley Sherrod for a misconstrued statement, taken out of it's contexts and intention, but seemingly allows the wealthiest criminals on the planet free reign in chambers and in the public squares to rake people like Sherrod over the public coals of accusation. Sherrod ,an outspoken woman of color, a scholar, advocate for African Americans and more specifically, POOR Americans, shows clearly that her assertions are not only correct, but understated in the extreme for the sake of prudence in not embarrassing her boss and his cabinet but more to the point, the rich ones are cutting the legs from under the poor and no calls for wealthy elites, as yet, to report to the dunce cap and stool in the corner of their classes. Why?

It's easy to pick on poor people isn't it? After all, are they going to hire a lawyer and go after rich man if he calls someone a hurtful name or are they going to chalk it up to experience, turn the other cheek and forgive and forget? What choice have the poor in such circumstances? They live with some grief......

Anyone who doesn't see that the money in this nation is gravitating upward, into bankers, insurance mavens and utilities, military procurements contractors and highway contractors hands is as blind as a bat and without the sonar . The US , just like Greece, is letting the rich run roughshod over the poor, stealing their entitlements with bribes, threats of exodus or both, just to be richer, more influential and more worshiped for their ascension on Jacob's American dream ladder.

Rich plutocrats now fashioning themselves as populists are selling politics as barkers from medicine show wagons to dumb and dumber Americans who are both poor and ignorant of their own aiding and abetting such crimes as insurance theft by insurance companies, bank fraud, by bankers, and callusion to extort , by the very judges in the highest seats on US courts, corporate givaways to plutocrats are common place, every day americana, but service to the poor is relegated to the back burners of the private sector and weakly administered by Welfare fraudsters on the federal dole and grafters wagons.

So, in retrospect, Americas press is a primarily corpoarte entity with few owners and a general demenar inclined to skewer any hapless fool who misbehaves in a few areas of basic concern, You dont dis the rich, Obama proved that out by stating that he is a friend to big business as he attempts to regulate their actions post world economic meltdown, hence the regulations come out of an overcooked pasta pot like jello starch, unrecognizable as any kind of good thing for the poor, but because flowery language packaged it all in rises and ribbons with bows, the people are duped again by the rich and one less advocate for the poor remains standing in the US discourse,....

Another day another dollar made on the back of a black woman whose virtue was to much for the mealy mouthed US press and it;s awkwardly myopic owners and purveyors. Here's a hint for the future USof A, the libertarians fueling these fires are intent on fuedal society in their lifetimes and will lie, cheat steal and defame anyone to have the power of governance in their hands, Tea party Democrats GOP or Green Party????? I would say that of the four, any American who votes for the Tea party is going to find the party heads throwing the people overboard and stealing the tea for their private use and profits. Hint number two would be this, stifleing dissent in a class war that is destiny for this nation is a fools errand, let this eagle fly America, the birds in power today are vultures, they eat the scraps of dead things, Eagles hunt for their food themselves and when someone tries to steal, blood is drawn, We the people should sharpen claws and beak and prepare to defend OUR MEALS from the VULTURES. God is a myterious force, it is said, but that is the only mystery there in terms of who Jesus is and what his job is, look it up, Sojourners, St Francis had it right, being poor is a virtue of the soul and has it's rewards, but remebering the eye of the needle that Christ described as the rich man's gate to heaven, some wise thought should be given to the importance of gathering stores selfishly, while alienating the poor from their posts. Reward for stealing may not be worth the temporary fix of being rich in other's tired and aching backs.

It is the rich who see that fear is losing it, the poor see this fear and rightfully taunt and accuse the rich, knowing that the ones with nothing have no fear , the rich attack with lies to shield themselves from discovery. Thieves are thieves, some poor some rich, petty thieves end up in jail, the robber baron walk and get a fat bonus in this country, Are we broken yet, or are we going to keep imagining that this capitalist debauchery can be fixed with duct tape and bullshit?

by: sigride

07-22-2010 @ 9:39pm

Thank you for telling this great story. And yes, class is a huge problem in this country. I know the race thing isn't over, but praise God we've come as far as we have.

Finally, many good people are defamed when their comments and actions are taken out of context. We all need to be slow to speak against them.

by: deaconintraining

07-24-2010 @ 11:33am

I think the most powerful lesson Dr. Dixon's essay for me is this. We have to move beyond race when working for social justice. The real issue is poverty. Not that race does not play a major role in who is suffering from poverty. But if we work for justice among the poor, we will also work for justice among racial minorities. Look at immigration. The underlying issue is poverty: people living in poverty in Mexico and Central America searching for work, and wealthy "haves" trying to stop them. Can we fulfill Dr. King's dream of a poor people's march on Washington?

by: deaconintraining

07-24-2010 @ 11:33am

I think the most powerful lesson Dr. Dixon's essay for me is this. We have to move beyond race when working for social justice. The real issue is poverty. Not that race does not play a major role in who is suffering from poverty. But if we work for justice among the poor, we will also work for justice among racial minorities. Look at immigration. The underlying issue is poverty: people living in poverty in Mexico and Central America searching for work, and wealthy "haves" trying to stop them. Can we fulfill Dr. King's dream of a poor people's march on Washington?

by: judithod

07-26-2010 @ 8:33pm

BlueDeacon--See this site for an article on "jourolist": http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/22/when-mccain-p...

Am sure you could Google (pro- and con-) others too.

by: BlueDeacon

07-26-2010 @ 3:55pm

Concerning that "conservative propaganda structure," believe the progressives have matched it.

Ridiculous, because if that were true the conservatives would have given chapter-and-verse specifics. OTOH, there are a myriad of books and newspaper and magazine articles about the conservative propaganda structure, all heavily-sourced and none of them conservatives have ever tried to deny.

by: Patricia

07-22-2010 @ 10:55pm

Yes, that, and fire Andrew Breitbart!

by: judithod

07-26-2010 @ 8:33pm

BlueDeacon--See this site for an article on "jourolist": http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/22/when-mccain-p...

Am sure you could Google (pro- and con-) others too.

by: Patricia

07-22-2010 @ 10:55pm

Yes, that, and fire Andrew Breitbart!

by: Patricia

07-22-2010 @ 10:55pm

Yes, that, and fire Andrew Breitbart!

by: judynickelson

07-24-2010 @ 1:05pm

Thank you, Dr. Dixon. This is the same message that Dr. Ruby Payne and colleagues are sending in their works including A Framework for Understanding Poverty and Bridges Out of Poverty. There are many initiatives across the country now using Bridges to raise community awareness and understanding of this issue, Phil DeVol's course for people wishing to escape poverty, Getting Ahead in a Just Gettin' By World, and Scott Miller's Circles Initiatives that bring the community together to fight the systemic causes of poverty as well as helping individuals break the barriers that keep them in poverty. See more of their work at http://www.ahaprocess.com/Community_Programs/ and http://www.movethemountain.org/circlescampaign....

by: judynickelson

07-24-2010 @ 1:05pm

Thank you, Dr. Dixon. This is the same message that Dr. Ruby Payne and colleagues are sending in their works including A Framework for Understanding Poverty and Bridges Out of Poverty. There are many initiatives across the country now using Bridges to raise community awareness and understanding of this issue, Phil DeVol's course for people wishing to escape poverty, Getting Ahead in a Just Gettin' By World, and Scott Miller's Circles Initiatives that bring the community together to fight the systemic causes of poverty as well as helping individuals break the barriers that keep them in poverty. See more of their work at http://www.ahaprocess.com/Community_Programs/ and http://www.movethemountain.org/circlescampaign....

by: judithod

07-26-2010 @ 4:40pm

Suggest you read about "journolist."

by: kansasmennonite

07-22-2010 @ 11:13pm

AFR radio did a "hatchet" job on her the day of the news. Had to apologize the next day. I got a minute or 2 of the Mark Levine show on our local talk radio (hate radio) and they were trying to pull up more out of context statements she made. How sad!

by: mikey1941

07-26-2010 @ 6:22pm

John, like you, I find myself at odds sometimes with my black, Mexican, and Asian friends when they claim something I have said is racist and I just KNOW it wasn't racist. I greatly value their long term friendship and am grateful we can discuss this though. I have learned that if THEY think something is racist, it just doesn't matter what I think. It has the same effect as a racist comment, and it offends them, or makes them uncomfortable, so it doesn't really matter my intent-its something I should not have said.
I have evolved to a solid conviction that the only ones who can judge whether or not something is racist are the folks who are offended. The intent of what we mean, just doesn't matter. We need to learn these (many) lessons and just not offend.

by: BlueDeacon

07-26-2010 @ 6:02pm

Say wha--?

by: kansasmennonite

07-22-2010 @ 11:13pm

AFR radio did a "hatchet" job on her the day of the news. Had to apologize the next day. I got a minute or 2 of the Mark Levine show on our local talk radio (hate radio) and they were trying to pull up more out of context statements she made. How sad!

by: Eaglerock

07-30-2010 @ 3:02am

But they HAVE demonized me. You see, I am a member in good standing with the tea party movement, and quite frankly, we have been demonized relentlessly by the likes of the racist NAACP. I hear no complaints of this in your double standard.

I am glad to see them get a small taste of their own medicine.

Don't taste too good does it?

by: judithod

07-24-2010 @ 1:54pm

Unfortunately, Sherrod has now diminished herself and her message. On CNN, she claimed that Breitbart wants "to get us stuck back in the times of slavery." That statement indicates that Sherrod has not transcended racial irresponsibility any more than those who victimized her.

by: Eaglerock

07-30-2010 @ 3:02am

But they HAVE demonized me. You see, I am a member in good standing with the tea party movement, and quite frankly, we have been demonized relentlessly by the likes of the racist NAACP. I hear no complaints of this in your double standard.

I am glad to see them get a small taste of their own medicine.

Don't taste too good does it?

by: judithod

07-24-2010 @ 1:54pm

Unfortunately, Sherrod has now diminished herself and her message. On CNN, she claimed that Breitbart wants "to get us stuck back in the times of slavery." That statement indicates that Sherrod has not transcended racial irresponsibility any more than those who victimized her.

by: judithod

07-26-2010 @ 8:33pm

BlueDeacon--See this site for an article on "jourolist": http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/22/when-mccain-p...

Am sure you could Google (pro- and con-) others too.

by: mikey1941

07-27-2010 @ 12:17am

I was once with some friends at a car show. One of my friends, new to the group, was black. One of my white friends offered the opinion that the only people he had trouble collecting money from in his business were black people.

I sat like a bump on a log and said nothing, nor did my black friend. I didn't sleep well that night. I called my black friend the next day and apologized to him for not standing up for him.He thanked me, and said he was pretty used to that kind of stuff. I swore to myself that I would always stand up for/with the minorities when they are victims of discrimination. (In that case, my black friend had a great job as a fireman the white racist-talking guy was in financial trouble and had list his business). I think folks in the majority need to stand up and help minorities-straight guys need to stand up for gays and defend them. Racist talk should not go unchallenged. I try and I fail, but I keep trying.
Patricia, those white people who view minorities seeking respect as "uppity" have to be challenged, and they need to be challenged by other whites whenever possible. Its a crying shame that we leave black people to defend black people, hispanics to stand up for Hispanics, gays defending gays etc. I especially loved it when the Spooners defended Ms. Shirley Sherrod. It denied the charge any credibility. If Al Sharpton, or Jesse Jackson had defended her (which they did), it could have been just another racial flap. The Spooners defense stopped it cold.

by: mikey1941

07-27-2010 @ 12:17am

I was once with some friends at a car show. One of my friends, new to the group, was black. One of my white friends offered the opinion that the only people he had trouble collecting money from in his business were black people.

I sat like a bump on a log and said nothing, nor did my black friend. I didn't sleep well that night. I called my black friend the next day and apologized to him for not standing up for him.He thanked me, and said he was pretty used to that kind of stuff. I swore to myself that I would always stand up for/with the minorities when they are victims of discrimination. (In that case, my black friend had a great job as a fireman the white racist-talking guy was in financial trouble and had list his business). I think folks in the majority need to stand up and help minorities-straight guys need to stand up for gays and defend them. Racist talk should not go unchallenged. I try and I fail, but I keep trying.
Patricia, those white people who view minorities seeking respect as "uppity" have to be challenged, and they need to be challenged by other whites whenever possible. Its a crying shame that we leave black people to defend black people, hispanics to stand up for Hispanics, gays defending gays etc. I especially loved it when the Spooners defended Ms. Shirley Sherrod. It denied the charge any credibility. If Al Sharpton, or Jesse Jackson had defended her (which they did), it could have been just another racial flap. The Spooners defense stopped it cold.

by: Patricia

07-26-2010 @ 11:58pm

Well, except for the white people who have decided that "uppity" people of color telling it like it is with regard to whites' privilege, prerogative, and power are "racist"...they're just "offended" because they might have to be equal instead of superior :).

by: Patricia

07-26-2010 @ 11:58pm

Well, except for the white people who have decided that "uppity" people of color telling it like it is with regard to whites' privilege, prerogative, and power are "racist"...they're just "offended" because they might have to be equal instead of superior :).

by: Patricia

07-24-2010 @ 4:02pm

Well, then, what do you think Breitbart was seeking to accomplish by maliciously and deliberately bearing false witness against Ms Sherrod?

When this is all over, forever, what most people are going to remember is that first, dishonest, inflammatory clip. No one is going to remember the apology, no one is going to remember that the clip was proven to be a lie, and that clip is going to be available to anyone, from now on, forever, to use dishonestly as an "example" to prove their point. Hardly anyone will bother to ask about the context, or the rest of the speech. Ms Sherrod has effectively been "branded" forever.

Yes, Tom Vilseck (sp?) was wrong in his knee-jerk reaction to the latest lie from the "right". Yes, it was wrong to fire her before finding out the whole story. There's plenty of blame to go around.

BUT - Breitbart should not get a free pass for deliberately concocting this story in the first place, and his employers should take immediate action now that he's been exposed.

Justice demands that Andrew Breitbart be held accountable for his deliberately hurtful actions.

FOX - Fire Andrew Breitbart!

by: Patricia

07-24-2010 @ 4:02pm

Well, then, what do you think Breitbart was seeking to accomplish by maliciously and deliberately bearing false witness against Ms Sherrod?

When this is all over, forever, what most people are going to remember is that first, dishonest, inflammatory clip. No one is going to remember the apology, no one is going to remember that the clip was proven to be a lie, and that clip is going to be available to anyone, from now on, forever, to use dishonestly as an "example" to prove their point. Hardly anyone will bother to ask about the context, or the rest of the speech. Ms Sherrod has effectively been "branded" forever.

Yes, Tom Vilseck (sp?) was wrong in his knee-jerk reaction to the latest lie from the "right". Yes, it was wrong to fire her before finding out the whole story. There's plenty of blame to go around.

BUT - Breitbart should not get a free pass for deliberately concocting this story in the first place, and his employers should take immediate action now that he's been exposed.

Justice demands that Andrew Breitbart be held accountable for his deliberately hurtful actions.

FOX - Fire Andrew Breitbart!

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by: rustys1

07-22-2010 @ 5:17pm

Thank you for telling her story. This is the kind of person we all should be celebrating in America. I appreciate her humility to repent, courage to share her transformation, and passion for the poor of all races.

by: rustys1

07-22-2010 @ 5:17pm

Thank you for telling her story. This is the kind of person we all should be celebrating in America. I appreciate her humility to repent, courage to share her transformation, and passion for the poor of all races.

by: rustys1

07-22-2010 @ 5:17pm

Thank you for telling her story. This is the kind of person we all should be celebrating in America. I appreciate her humility to repent, courage to share her transformation, and passion for the poor of all races.

by: John Mulholland

07-22-2010 @ 6:21pm

Here's the lesson from all of this...if everyone is a racist, no one is.

by: John Mulholland

07-22-2010 @ 6:21pm

Here's the lesson from all of this...if everyone is a racist, no one is.

by: John Mulholland

07-22-2010 @ 6:21pm

Here's the lesson from all of this...if everyone is a racist, no one is.

by: liberalinlove

07-22-2010 @ 6:39pm

I hope and pray that God uses this story to underline the power of jumping to conclusions without understanding context. People who are willing to be convinced have already decided what the truth is.

I fervently pray that God and our president can turn this around for the Glory of God. I pray that Shirley Sherrod can one more time forgive the foolishness and the injustice of hatred and step up to whatever position President O'Bama offers her. I know this will be hard, but with grace, this story can be a catalyst for change.

by: liberalinlove

07-22-2010 @ 6:39pm

I hope and pray that God uses this story to underline the power of jumping to conclusions without understanding context. People who are willing to be convinced have already decided what the truth is.

I fervently pray that God and our president can turn this around for the Glory of God. I pray that Shirley Sherrod can one more time forgive the foolishness and the injustice of hatred and step up to whatever position President O'Bama offers her. I know this will be hard, but with grace, this story can be a catalyst for change.

by: liberalinlove

07-22-2010 @ 6:39pm

I hope and pray that God uses this story to underline the power of jumping to conclusions without understanding context. People who are willing to be convinced have already decided what the truth is.

I fervently pray that God and our president can turn this around for the Glory of God. I pray that Shirley Sherrod can one more time forgive the foolishness and the injustice of hatred and step up to whatever position President O'Bama offers her. I know this will be hard, but with grace, this story can be a catalyst for change.

by: pilgrimsoul11

07-22-2010 @ 6:49pm

We have to have the freedom to talk about how we feel about race, if we're ever going to overcome. Shirley did that. A man with no heart did a brutal thing by taking it out of context. But we should all do what Shirley did. It's okay to have the bad thoughts, because we all have the bad thoughts. But what Jesus wants to know is this: HOW DID YOU ACT AFTER YOU HAD THOSE BAD THOUGHTS?

If you can have the bad thoughts and STILL do the right thing, you've overcome evil, with God's help. What a wonderful victory!
What a wonderful example!

I am so proud of Shirley, and what she means to all of us. Help me, God, to follow her example.

by: pilgrimsoul11

07-22-2010 @ 6:49pm

We have to have the freedom to talk about how we feel about race, if we're ever going to overcome. Shirley did that. A man with no heart did a brutal thing by taking it out of context. But we should all do what Shirley did. It's okay to have the bad thoughts, because we all have the bad thoughts. But what Jesus wants to know is this: HOW DID YOU ACT AFTER YOU HAD THOSE BAD THOUGHTS?

If you can have the bad thoughts and STILL do the right thing, you've overcome evil, with God's help. What a wonderful victory!
What a wonderful example!

I am so proud of Shirley, and what she means to all of us. Help me, God, to follow her example.

by: pilgrimsoul11

07-22-2010 @ 6:49pm

We have to have the freedom to talk about how we feel about race, if we're ever going to overcome. Shirley did that. A man with no heart did a brutal thing by taking it out of context. But we should all do what Shirley did. It's okay to have the bad thoughts, because we all have the bad thoughts. But what Jesus wants to know is this: HOW DID YOU ACT AFTER YOU HAD THOSE BAD THOUGHTS?

If you can have the bad thoughts and STILL do the right thing, you've overcome evil, with God's help. What a wonderful victory!
What a wonderful example!

I am so proud of Shirley, and what she means to all of us. Help me, God, to follow her example.

by: letjusticerolldown

07-22-2010 @ 7:21pm

The vitriol in public comments online in Montgomery AL certainly bear witness to your argument that these issues are manipulated to keep those without battling each other over scraps.

by: letjusticerolldown

07-22-2010 @ 7:21pm

The vitriol in public comments online in Montgomery AL certainly bear witness to your argument that these issues are manipulated to keep those without battling each other over scraps.

by: letjusticerolldown

07-22-2010 @ 7:21pm

The vitriol in public comments online in Montgomery AL certainly bear witness to your argument that these issues are manipulated to keep those without battling each other over scraps.

by: DeborahDakin

07-22-2010 @ 7:57pm

For me, "the lesson is...
If all of us are racist,
... all of us are racist."
Would you say if all of us are greedy, then none of us are?
Just because I acknowledge my own racism, does not mean others do not suffer from it as well. I can't begin to deal with it if I don't acknowledge it.
All of us are sinners. It is our shared humanity that helps us to address our sins without fear and to join in creating the kingdom of God.

by: DeborahDakin

07-22-2010 @ 7:57pm

For me, "the lesson is...
If all of us are racist,
... all of us are racist."
Would you say if all of us are greedy, then none of us are?
Just because I acknowledge my own racism, does not mean others do not suffer from it as well. I can't begin to deal with it if I don't acknowledge it.
All of us are sinners. It is our shared humanity that helps us to address our sins without fear and to join in creating the kingdom of God.

by: Fozzy_bear

07-22-2010 @ 9:23pm

I find it amusing that, of all the news programs and commentators on FOX News, Glenn Beck was only one who didn't blow this story out of proportion. He didn't even mention it the night the story broke (probably because he hadn't heard about it yet), and, when he did mention the story the next night, he spent most of time defending Sherrod because he didn't know the full context of the scenario.

Maybe he was just being shrewd, and I'm sure he will probably find a way of defending FOX's actions, but kudos to Mr. Beck for being on the same side as Sojourners for once.

by: Fozzy_bear

07-22-2010 @ 9:23pm

I find it amusing that, of all the news programs and commentators on FOX News, Glenn Beck was only one who didn't blow this story out of proportion. He didn't even mention it the night the story broke (probably because he hadn't heard about it yet), and, when he did mention the story the next night, he spent most of time defending Sherrod because he didn't know the full context of the scenario.

Maybe he was just being shrewd, and I'm sure he will probably find a way of defending FOX's actions, but kudos to Mr. Beck for being on the same side as Sojourners for once.

by: sigride

07-22-2010 @ 9:39pm

Thank you for telling this great story. And yes, class is a huge problem in this country. I know the race thing isn't over, but praise God we've come as far as we have.

Finally, many good people are defamed when their comments and actions are taken out of context. We all need to be slow to speak against them.

by: sigride

07-22-2010 @ 9:39pm

Thank you for telling this great story. And yes, class is a huge problem in this country. I know the race thing isn't over, but praise God we've come as far as we have.

Finally, many good people are defamed when their comments and actions are taken out of context. We all need to be slow to speak against them.

by: sigride

07-22-2010 @ 9:39pm

Thank you for telling this great story. And yes, class is a huge problem in this country. I know the race thing isn't over, but praise God we've come as far as we have.

Finally, many good people are defamed when their comments and actions are taken out of context. We all need to be slow to speak against them.

by: Patricia

07-22-2010 @ 10:55pm

Yes, that, and fire Andrew Breitbart!

by: Patricia

07-22-2010 @ 10:55pm

Yes, that, and fire Andrew Breitbart!

by: Patricia

07-22-2010 @ 10:55pm

Yes, that, and fire Andrew Breitbart!

by: kansasmennonite

07-22-2010 @ 11:13pm

AFR radio did a "hatchet" job on her the day of the news. Had to apologize the next day. I got a minute or 2 of the Mark Levine show on our local talk radio (hate radio) and they were trying to pull up more out of context statements she made. How sad!

by: kansasmennonite

07-22-2010 @ 11:13pm

AFR radio did a "hatchet" job on her the day of the news. Had to apologize the next day. I got a minute or 2 of the Mark Levine show on our local talk radio (hate radio) and they were trying to pull up more out of context statements she made. How sad!

by: Bungarra

07-23-2010 @ 2:46am

"Thou shalt not bear false witness

by: Bungarra

07-23-2010 @ 2:46am

"Thou shalt not bear false witness

by: Bungarra

07-23-2010 @ 2:46am

"Thou shalt not bear false witness

by: scat

07-23-2010 @ 3:42am

Actually I think it is sometimes fun to watch/lilsten to people squirm when they have been caught with thier pants down.
Unfortunately, there are way too many people willilng to believe and perpetuate lies when those lies are consistent with what they want to believe. Truth just doesn't matter to them. This Breitbarth is a good example. He doesn't think he did anything wrong. He blames the people who were foolish enough to believe him! Talk about perverted sense of right and wrong!

by: scat

07-23-2010 @ 3:42am

Actually I think it is sometimes fun to watch/lilsten to people squirm when they have been caught with thier pants down.
Unfortunately, there are way too many people willilng to believe and perpetuate lies when those lies are consistent with what they want to believe. Truth just doesn't matter to them. This Breitbarth is a good example. He doesn't think he did anything wrong. He blames the people who were foolish enough to believe him! Talk about perverted sense of right and wrong!

by: John Mulholland

07-23-2010 @ 1:37pm

Let me explain,

Apparently, every single statement made about other races is construed as racist. Obviously, racism exists. What she said was not racist. But, we have a media (right and left) ready to jump on this racism bandwagon at every opportunity. It minimizes real problems, and makes stuff like this out of proportion.

The bottom line is that there is an inability to talk about real race issues in the US without being called a racist. Ergo...if everyone is a racist, then no one is.

by: John Mulholland

07-23-2010 @ 1:37pm

Let me explain,

Apparently, every single statement made about other races is construed as racist. Obviously, racism exists. What she said was not racist. But, we have a media (right and left) ready to jump on this racism bandwagon at every opportunity. It minimizes real problems, and makes stuff like this out of proportion.

The bottom line is that there is an inability to talk about real race issues in the US without being called a racist. Ergo...if everyone is a racist, then no one is.

by: retiredpreacher

07-23-2010 @ 1:52pm

reply to John Mulholland:

Wrong John, if everyone is a racist, everyone is!

by: retiredpreacher

07-23-2010 @ 1:52pm

reply to John Mulholland:

Wrong John, if everyone is a racist, everyone is!

by: retiredpreacher

07-23-2010 @ 1:52pm

reply to John Mulholland:

Wrong John, if everyone is a racist, everyone is!

by: CJ

07-23-2010 @ 2:42pm

I get what you're trying to say but the way you're saying it isn't clear. What you're getting at is that there's a big difference between what someone says and what someone is. If someone says a racist thing that doesn't necessarily mean they are a racist. By jumping to the conclusion that everyone who says something racist is a racist then we make people frightened to talk.

by: CJ

07-23-2010 @ 2:42pm

I get what you're trying to say but the way you're saying it isn't clear. What you're getting at is that there's a big difference between what someone says and what someone is. If someone says a racist thing that doesn't necessarily mean they are a racist. By jumping to the conclusion that everyone who says something racist is a racist then we make people frightened to talk.

by: CJ

07-23-2010 @ 2:42pm

I get what you're trying to say but the way you're saying it isn't clear. What you're getting at is that there's a big difference between what someone says and what someone is. If someone says a racist thing that doesn't necessarily mean they are a racist. By jumping to the conclusion that everyone who says something racist is a racist then we make people frightened to talk.

by: Patricia

07-23-2010 @ 3:08pm

No, I think what he's saying is that not every comment made about race is a racist comment.

He clearly stated that what Ms Sherrod said was NOT racist.

What he said was the willingness of the media to jump on the racism bandwagon at every statement (he didn't mention the willingness of the public to accept the media's characterization uncritically) minimizes the real problems of racism that exist, and blows entirely out of proportion and mis-characterizes (or deliberately manipulates) statements that are innocent of the racism charge.

I don't agree often with John, but usually, and in this case, what he said was pretty clear, even though it wasn't quite what you interpreted.

by: Patricia

07-23-2010 @ 3:08pm

No, I think what he's saying is that not every comment made about race is a racist comment.

He clearly stated that what Ms Sherrod said was NOT racist.

What he said was the willingness of the media to jump on the racism bandwagon at every statement (he didn't mention the willingness of the public to accept the media's characterization uncritically) minimizes the real problems of racism that exist, and blows entirely out of proportion and mis-characterizes (or deliberately manipulates) statements that are innocent of the racism charge.

I don't agree often with John, but usually, and in this case, what he said was pretty clear, even though it wasn't quite what you interpreted.

by: Patricia

07-23-2010 @ 3:08pm

No, I think what he's saying is that not every comment made about race is a racist comment.

He clearly stated that what Ms Sherrod said was NOT racist.

What he said was the willingness of the media to jump on the racism bandwagon at every statement (he didn't mention the willingness of the public to accept the media's characterization uncritically) minimizes the real problems of racism that exist, and blows entirely out of proportion and mis-characterizes (or deliberately manipulates) statements that are innocent of the racism charge.

I don't agree often with John, but usually, and in this case, what he said was pretty clear, even though it wasn't quite what you interpreted.

by: BlueDeacon

07-23-2010 @ 3:21pm

Here's the big picture: The conservative movement has a long, sordid history of racism, covert as well as overt, that it has never fully acknowledged, let alone repented of. What Andrew Breitbart was trying to do in posting that speech was saying "See? They're just as bad as they say we are!", thus driving the issue underground. But this kind of thing is hardly news to me; I stopped watching the 700 Club 25 years ago because it did the very same thing -- twisting the words of its opponents to justify its position.

by: BlueDeacon

07-23-2010 @ 3:21pm

Here's the big picture: The conservative movement has a long, sordid history of racism, covert as well as overt, that it has never fully acknowledged, let alone repented of. What Andrew Breitbart was trying to do in posting that speech was saying "See? They're just as bad as they say we are!", thus driving the issue underground. But this kind of thing is hardly news to me; I stopped watching the 700 Club 25 years ago because it did the very same thing -- twisting the words of its opponents to justify its position.

by: BlueDeacon

07-23-2010 @ 3:21pm

Here's the big picture: The conservative movement has a long, sordid history of racism, covert as well as overt, that it has never fully acknowledged, let alone repented of. What Andrew Breitbart was trying to do in posting that speech was saying "See? They're just as bad as they say we are!", thus driving the issue underground. But this kind of thing is hardly news to me; I stopped watching the 700 Club 25 years ago because it did the very same thing -- twisting the words of its opponents to justify its position.

by: John Mulholland

07-23-2010 @ 7:11pm

I believe that these "false" issues of racism damage and minimize real racism.

I appreciate your saying that I am usually clear in my statements.

by: John Mulholland

07-23-2010 @ 7:11pm

I believe that these "false" issues of racism damage and minimize real racism.

I appreciate your saying that I am usually clear in my statements.

by: John Mulholland

07-23-2010 @ 7:11pm

I believe that these "false" issues of racism damage and minimize real racism.

I appreciate your saying that I am usually clear in my statements.

by: John Mulholland

07-23-2010 @ 7:18pm