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Non-Cooperation with Evil in the Streets of Arizona

The clock nudged toward midnight on a cool Arizona summer evening. With monsoon moisture in the air and faint stars flickering above, two columns of people solemnly proceeded on opposite sides of the street to the main entry point into their city. Families, children, and elders together filed into the street, with an air of celebratory defiance building as each individual added their body to the blockade. None would pass into this community for the foreseeable future, and people living in terror had openly lost their fear. The tone was now set, and the events of the coming day would reflect it, consciously or not.

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This was the beginning of Arizona's July 29 demonstrations against SB 1070 and related anti-immigrant policies. At 12:01 a.m. that day, the parts of the bill that had not been struck down earlier in the week by a federal judge -- including a mandate that all state officials and agencies enforce federal immigration laws to their fullest extent, and also a provision that criminalizes harboring or transporting undocumented persons -- took effect. And in the tiny town of Guadalupe (pop. 6000) on the outskirts of Phoenix, Arizona, community members fired the first nonviolent "shot" in the day's struggle against legalized oppression.

As the tension mounted, city buses began to stack up and sheriff's deputies slowly encroached upon the human blockade from both sides of the street. The line of resistance stood firm, however, and soon doubled when another line was formed mostly of local activists and allies in the struggle for justice and human rights. Law enforcement officers now bluntly stated their intention to make mass arrests unless the intersection was cleared. Still no one moved. The flummoxed deputy again made his pronouncement, and again the blockade remained. When the warning was repeated a third time, it became clear that neither the political will nor manpower was present to effectively deal with the dozens of civil disobedients who had physically created a wall of non-compliance at the edge of their town.

Following a phone call from the mayor, and with due regard to the facts that the symbolic action had accomplished its purpose and the people had stood up in solidarity, the blockade self-dispersed after more than an hour of holding the street. The point had been made: people were tired of living in fear, and they would not comply with laws like SB 1070 that seek to institutionalize that fear. Make no mistake; the provisions of the law were designed not so much to change the realities of living as an undocumented person in Arizona, but more to inculcate a climate of permanent fear and to institutionally legitimize the worst of the state's unjust police practices. But on this day, when the world would be watching, people stood up.

Episodes like this need to be placed in context for us to fully understand their import. For the residents of tiny Guadalupe, a town made up of equal parts Mexican and Yacqui, there has been a constant reign of terror in their midst, with the main perpetrators being Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his deputies. Guadalupe has no police force of its own, and so had made a contract with the county sheriff's department to take on the role of policing the township. Over the years there have been numerous incidents and allegations of police misconduct, leading to a very public feud between Guadalupe's former mayor and Arpaio that resulted in the contract being suspended and the sheriff's department becoming unwelcome there.

What specifically prompted this dust-up were a set of 2008 immigration "raids" conducted by the sheriff's office, which resulted in about 150 arrests, with nearly half having immigration implications. The raids themselves essentially devolve into massive sting operations where deputies scrutinize moving vehicles for the most minute traffic violations -- for example, a cracked taillight or windshield, changing lanes without adequately signaling, or the improper use of a horn. These stops then result in ID checks, searches, and other escalations that can lead straight to deportations. The raids are conducted primarily in communities of color, leading many to suggest that the true nature of the "crime" being targeted is simply being brown-skinned.

Guadalupe's political leadership at the time publicly averred that Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his forces had not been invited to the town to conduct these raids, with the former Vice Mayor bluntly stating that "Arpaio is doing it because he wants to show the Latin people that he has power." A former councilwoman concurred, noting that, "This is racial profiling and it needs to stop." For her stance against Arpaio, former mayor Rebecca Jimenez was herself pulled over and ticketed by sheriff's deputies for a broken headlight. "How do you like working for a sheriff who racially profiles against people of color?" Jimenez asked the deputy who pulled her over, according to a report released by the sheriff. "I didn't think that Sheriff Joe was going to retaliate against me, but I guess that I was wrong," she said, according to the report.

This is the backdrop against which Guadalupe's residents took the streets in the opening hours of July 29. The Phoenix New Times later reported that the crowd had "faced down" Arpaio's deputies, with one resident saying that "regardless of what the law says, we're all human beings. We shouldn't be treated as something else." Following the action, protest organizer Andrew Sanchez said that "it was peaceful, it was successful, and we managed to get the cops' attention." Indeed, this action of open non-compliance with unjust laws and practices was done in the best tradition of nonviolent civil disobedience, and it merits our attention as an important part of what will be an ongoing campaign of "noncooperation with evil" in the days ahead.

[This article appears courtesy of a partnership with Waging Nonviolence.]

Randall Amster, J.D., Ph.D., teaches Peace Studies at Prescott College, and is the Executive Director of the Peace & Justice Studies Association. His most recent book is the co-edited volume Building Cultures of Peace: Transdisciplinary Voices of Hope and Action. He is a contributor to the Waging Nonviolence blog, where this article first appeared.

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by: Jen Boettger Boring

08-17-2010 @ 5:56am

Fantastic! Good for the people of Guadalupe.

by: ontheruralroute

08-19-2010 @ 9:32pm

It has been said that taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society. A civilized society is built on a system of rules and regulations we refer to as laws. Our nation, like all others, has a set of laws which govern the process of immigrating. Just because individuals choose to break the laws by illegally circumventing the laws does not make the nation whose laws are being broken evil or racist or unchristian when it takes steps to enforce its laws. Even Christ taught us to "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's." Neither is it the duty of our nation to take in everyone who disagrees with aspects of the government of their nation of origin. Sooner or later they must stand against those policies, et cetra, they believe wrong. The founding of our nation was based upon that very principle.

by: thing1

08-20-2010 @ 4:45pm

Well done! That took the kind of guts that made this nation great.

by: thing1

08-20-2010 @ 4:45pm

Well done! That took the kind of guts that made this nation great.

by: Jen Boettger Boring

08-17-2010 @ 5:56am

Fantastic! Good for the people of Guadalupe.

by: Jen Boettger Boring

08-17-2010 @ 5:56am

Fantastic! Good for the people of Guadalupe.

by: ontheruralroute

08-19-2010 @ 9:32pm

It has been said that taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society. A civilized society is built on a system of rules and regulations we refer to as laws. Our nation, like all others, has a set of laws which govern the process of immigrating. Just because individuals choose to break the laws by illegally circumventing the laws does not make the nation whose laws are being broken evil or racist or unchristian when it takes steps to enforce its laws. Even Christ taught us to "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's." Neither is it the duty of our nation to take in everyone who disagrees with aspects of the government of their nation of origin. Sooner or later they must stand against those policies, et cetra, they believe wrong. The founding of our nation was based upon that very principle.

by: ontheruralroute

08-19-2010 @ 9:32pm

It has been said that taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society. A civilized society is built on a system of rules and regulations we refer to as laws. Our nation, like all others, has a set of laws which govern the process of immigrating. Just because individuals choose to break the laws by illegally circumventing the laws does not make the nation whose laws are being broken evil or racist or unchristian when it takes steps to enforce its laws. Even Christ taught us to "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's." Neither is it the duty of our nation to take in everyone who disagrees with aspects of the government of their nation of origin. Sooner or later they must stand against those policies, et cetra, they believe wrong. The founding of our nation was based upon that very principle.

by: Steve Cagle

08-18-2010 @ 3:50pm

I am conflicted by the debate over immigration. On one hand, I understand the desperation of good, but poor, people to try and go where there is opportunity to better themselves and their family. On the other hand, a nation that cannot control its borders ceases to be a nation. Not all the people coming to the U.S. are good. Too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence. Horrid gangs like the Latin Kings, MS-13 and now, the drug cartels of Mexico are importing their brand of violence to the streets of the U.S.

Illegal immigrants are victims of abusive employers, not just the police. We must have a better way of allowing legal guest workers and permanent immigrants. If there are jobs that citizens don't want to do, perhaps it is because the wages offered don't match the job. Bringing in illegals who will work for pennies on the dollar hurts our citizens by driving down wages.

Arizona has taken this action because the Federal government has failed to enforce the laws it has a Constitutional duty to enforce. The citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal immigrants. Yes, some is xenophobia, but one can't ignore the negative impact caused by the failure to protect our borders.

by: Steve Cagle

08-18-2010 @ 3:50pm

I am conflicted by the debate over immigration. On one hand, I understand the desperation of good, but poor, people to try and go where there is opportunity to better themselves and their family. On the other hand, a nation that cannot control its borders ceases to be a nation. Not all the people coming to the U.S. are good. Too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence. Horrid gangs like the Latin Kings, MS-13 and now, the drug cartels of Mexico are importing their brand of violence to the streets of the U.S.

Illegal immigrants are victims of abusive employers, not just the police. We must have a better way of allowing legal guest workers and permanent immigrants. If there are jobs that citizens don't want to do, perhaps it is because the wages offered don't match the job. Bringing in illegals who will work for pennies on the dollar hurts our citizens by driving down wages.

Arizona has taken this action because the Federal government has failed to enforce the laws it has a Constitutional duty to enforce. The citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal immigrants. Yes, some is xenophobia, but one can't ignore the negative impact caused by the failure to protect our borders.

by: thing1

08-20-2010 @ 4:45pm

Well done! That took the kind of guts that made this nation great.

by: Steve Cagle

08-18-2010 @ 3:50pm

I am conflicted by the debate over immigration. On one hand, I understand the desperation of good, but poor, people to try and go where there is opportunity to better themselves and their family. On the other hand, a nation that cannot control its borders ceases to be a nation. Not all the people coming to the U.S. are good. Too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence. Horrid gangs like the Latin Kings, MS-13 and now, the drug cartels of Mexico are importing their brand of violence to the streets of the U.S.

Illegal immigrants are victims of abusive employers, not just the police. We must have a better way of allowing legal guest workers and permanent immigrants. If there are jobs that citizens don't want to do, perhaps it is because the wages offered don't match the job. Bringing in illegals who will work for pennies on the dollar hurts our citizens by driving down wages.

Arizona has taken this action because the Federal government has failed to enforce the laws it has a Constitutional duty to enforce. The citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal immigrants. Yes, some is xenophobia, but one can't ignore the negative impact caused by the failure to protect our borders.

by: SlikLizrd

08-21-2010 @ 1:07am

Perhaps if you had lived and worked here in Phoenix for over 30 years, you'd be much less "conflicted".
You would have had the opportunity to see the "immigration issue" of today from a much more informed perspective.
Your notion that "too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence" is sheer hyperbole -- a nebulous statement that CANNOT be backed up with fact.
Those "horrid gangs" you speak of are NOT made up of nothing but illegal aliens, and it makes no sense for them to be lumped in with the immigrant laborers.
As you pointed out, illegals are victims of abusive and/or exploitative employers.
A law was passed in Arizona that punishes those employers who knowingly hire illegal workers -- but it is NOT enforced with the same enthusiasm is is shown by Sheriff Arpaio's immigrant sweeps. In fact, the law is pretty much ignored by the coppers and the local pro-business media -- because they don't want to ruffle the feathers of the ultra-conservative Arizona Republic newspaper and it's right-wing extremist "heroes".
What you've been seeing in the media is nothing more than the crazed responses of just about everybody -- because they don't know first-hand that this whole SB1070 thing is about driving Mexicans and other "potential Democrat votes" out of this state !!
And it's being done is such a way as to make it appear that it's all President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid that are to blame for everything. And there is a plenty of well-meaniung folks who have fell for this crap -- hook, line, and stinker !!
FACT;
Governor Jan Brewer told us she was going to see Obama to "make him do his job of enforcing our border". She delivered a hand-written request to President Obama for (ready!??) TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY (250) National Guardsmen to be placed along Arizona's Southern Border.
President Obama responded with more than TWICE as many troops as she asked for. FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOUR troops are now coming to our border !!

When the Employer Sanctions law was passed, TENS OF THOUSANDS of Mexicans and other Latino groups FLED THE AREA -- just as would be expected.
Crime here has been dropping steadily for the last 2 years -- but it's an election year, and the fear-mongers are doing their best to convince us that we're all gonna be over-run by illegal aliens if we don't vote for the anti-everything extremists that have become the Arizona Republican Party -- and the rest of the country is being dragged down to their level by the sensationalist (and very corporate) media.
It was NOT "Arizona" that "took this action" at all -- it was an out-of-state LAWYER that wrote SB1070, a Mormon Republican that sponsored the bill, and an UN-ELECTED Republican Governor who signed it into law while thousands of LEGAL CITIZENS protested in the streets.
Your assertion that "the citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal aliens" is just so much political hogwash -- our REAL problems stem from the political stranglehold that the Republican Party has placed on our state, and, with the help of the media corporations, they are spreading that same xenophobic hysteria across our entire nation.

If America was a human body, Arizona would be the rectum.
And it's our own fault for voting for Republicans in the first place !!

by: SlikLizrd

08-21-2010 @ 1:07am

Perhaps if you had lived and worked here in Phoenix for over 30 years, you'd be much less "conflicted".
You would have had the opportunity to see the "immigration issue" of today from a much more informed perspective.
Your notion that "too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence" is sheer hyperbole -- a nebulous statement that CANNOT be backed up with fact.
Those "horrid gangs" you speak of are NOT made up of nothing but illegal aliens, and it makes no sense for them to be lumped in with the immigrant laborers.
As you pointed out, illegals are victims of abusive and/or exploitative employers.
A law was passed in Arizona that punishes those employers who knowingly hire illegal workers -- but it is NOT enforced with the same enthusiasm is is shown by Sheriff Arpaio's immigrant sweeps. In fact, the law is pretty much ignored by the coppers and the local pro-business media -- because they don't want to ruffle the feathers of the ultra-conservative Arizona Republic newspaper and it's right-wing extremist "heroes".
What you've been seeing in the media is nothing more than the crazed responses of just about everybody -- because they don't know first-hand that this whole SB1070 thing is about driving Mexicans and other "potential Democrat votes" out of this state !!
And it's being done is such a way as to make it appear that it's all President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid that are to blame for everything. And there is a plenty of well-meaniung folks who have fell for this crap -- hook, line, and stinker !!
FACT;
Governor Jan Brewer told us she was going to see Obama to "make him do his job of enforcing our border". She delivered a hand-written request to President Obama for (ready!??) TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY (250) National Guardsmen to be placed along Arizona's Southern Border.
President Obama responded with more than TWICE as many troops as she asked for. FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOUR troops are now coming to our border !!

When the Employer Sanctions law was passed, TENS OF THOUSANDS of Mexicans and other Latino groups FLED THE AREA -- just as would be expected.
Crime here has been dropping steadily for the last 2 years -- but it's an election year, and the fear-mongers are doing their best to convince us that we're all gonna be over-run by illegal aliens if we don't vote for the anti-everything extremists that have become the Arizona Republican Party -- and the rest of the country is being dragged down to their level by the sensationalist (and very corporate) media.
It was NOT "Arizona" that "took this action" at all -- it was an out-of-state LAWYER that wrote SB1070, a Mormon Republican that sponsored the bill, and an UN-ELECTED Republican Governor who signed it into law while thousands of LEGAL CITIZENS protested in the streets.
Your assertion that "the citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal aliens" is just so much political hogwash -- our REAL problems stem from the political stranglehold that the Republican Party has placed on our state, and, with the help of the media corporations, they are spreading that same xenophobic hysteria across our entire nation.

If America was a human body, Arizona would be the rectum.
And it's our own fault for voting for Republicans in the first place !!

by: SlikLizrd

08-21-2010 @ 1:07am

Perhaps if you had lived and worked here in Phoenix for over 30 years, you'd be much less "conflicted".
You would have had the opportunity to see the "immigration issue" of today from a much more informed perspective.
Your notion that "too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence" is sheer hyperbole -- a nebulous statement that CANNOT be backed up with fact.
Those "horrid gangs" you speak of are NOT made up of nothing but illegal aliens, and it makes no sense for them to be lumped in with the immigrant laborers.
As you pointed out, illegals are victims of abusive and/or exploitative employers.
A law was passed in Arizona that punishes those employers who knowingly hire illegal workers -- but it is NOT enforced with the same enthusiasm is is shown by Sheriff Arpaio's immigrant sweeps. In fact, the law is pretty much ignored by the coppers and the local pro-business media -- because they don't want to ruffle the feathers of the ultra-conservative Arizona Republic newspaper and it's right-wing extremist "heroes".
What you've been seeing in the media is nothing more than the crazed responses of just about everybody -- because they don't know first-hand that this whole SB1070 thing is about driving Mexicans and other "potential Democrat votes" out of this state !!
And it's being done is such a way as to make it appear that it's all President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid that are to blame for everything. And there is a plenty of well-meaniung folks who have fell for this crap -- hook, line, and stinker !!
FACT;
Governor Jan Brewer told us she was going to see Obama to "make him do his job of enforcing our border". She delivered a hand-written request to President Obama for (ready!??) TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY (250) National Guardsmen to be placed along Arizona's Southern Border.
President Obama responded with more than TWICE as many troops as she asked for. FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOUR troops are now coming to our border !!

When the Employer Sanctions law was passed, TENS OF THOUSANDS of Mexicans and other Latino groups FLED THE AREA -- just as would be expected.
Crime here has been dropping steadily for the last 2 years -- but it's an election year, and the fear-mongers are doing their best to convince us that we're all gonna be over-run by illegal aliens if we don't vote for the anti-everything extremists that have become the Arizona Republican Party -- and the rest of the country is being dragged down to their level by the sensationalist (and very corporate) media.
It was NOT "Arizona" that "took this action" at all -- it was an out-of-state LAWYER that wrote SB1070, a Mormon Republican that sponsored the bill, and an UN-ELECTED Republican Governor who signed it into law while thousands of LEGAL CITIZENS protested in the streets.
Your assertion that "the citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal aliens" is just so much political hogwash -- our REAL problems stem from the political stranglehold that the Republican Party has placed on our state, and, with the help of the media corporations, they are spreading that same xenophobic hysteria across our entire nation.

If America was a human body, Arizona would be the rectum.
And it's our own fault for voting for Republicans in the first place !!

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by: Jen Boettger Boring

08-17-2010 @ 5:56am

Fantastic! Good for the people of Guadalupe.

by: Jen Boettger Boring

08-17-2010 @ 5:56am

Fantastic! Good for the people of Guadalupe.

by: Jen Boettger Boring

08-17-2010 @ 5:56am

Fantastic! Good for the people of Guadalupe.

by: Steve Cagle

08-18-2010 @ 3:50pm

I am conflicted by the debate over immigration. On one hand, I understand the desperation of good, but poor, people to try and go where there is opportunity to better themselves and their family. On the other hand, a nation that cannot control its borders ceases to be a nation. Not all the people coming to the U.S. are good. Too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence. Horrid gangs like the Latin Kings, MS-13 and now, the drug cartels of Mexico are importing their brand of violence to the streets of the U.S.

Illegal immigrants are victims of abusive employers, not just the police. We must have a better way of allowing legal guest workers and permanent immigrants. If there are jobs that citizens don't want to do, perhaps it is because the wages offered don't match the job. Bringing in illegals who will work for pennies on the dollar hurts our citizens by driving down wages.

Arizona has taken this action because the Federal government has failed to enforce the laws it has a Constitutional duty to enforce. The citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal immigrants. Yes, some is xenophobia, but one can't ignore the negative impact caused by the failure to protect our borders.

by: ontheruralroute

08-19-2010 @ 9:32pm

It has been said that taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society. A civilized society is built on a system of rules and regulations we refer to as laws. Our nation, like all others, has a set of laws which govern the process of immigrating. Just because individuals choose to break the laws by illegally circumventing the laws does not make the nation whose laws are being broken evil or racist or unchristian when it takes steps to enforce its laws. Even Christ taught us to "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's." Neither is it the duty of our nation to take in everyone who disagrees with aspects of the government of their nation of origin. Sooner or later they must stand against those policies, et cetra, they believe wrong. The founding of our nation was based upon that very principle.

by: ontheruralroute

08-19-2010 @ 9:32pm

It has been said that taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society. A civilized society is built on a system of rules and regulations we refer to as laws. Our nation, like all others, has a set of laws which govern the process of immigrating. Just because individuals choose to break the laws by illegally circumventing the laws does not make the nation whose laws are being broken evil or racist or unchristian when it takes steps to enforce its laws. Even Christ taught us to "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's." Neither is it the duty of our nation to take in everyone who disagrees with aspects of the government of their nation of origin. Sooner or later they must stand against those policies, et cetra, they believe wrong. The founding of our nation was based upon that very principle.

by: thing1

08-20-2010 @ 4:45pm

Well done! That took the kind of guts that made this nation great.

by: thing1

08-20-2010 @ 4:45pm

Well done! That took the kind of guts that made this nation great.

by: SlikLizrd

08-21-2010 @ 1:07am

Perhaps if you had lived and worked here in Phoenix for over 30 years, you'd be much less "conflicted".
You would have had the opportunity to see the "immigration issue" of today from a much more informed perspective.
Your notion that "too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence" is sheer hyperbole -- a nebulous statement that CANNOT be backed up with fact.
Those "horrid gangs" you speak of are NOT made up of nothing but illegal aliens, and it makes no sense for them to be lumped in with the immigrant laborers.
As you pointed out, illegals are victims of abusive and/or exploitative employers.
A law was passed in Arizona that punishes those employers who knowingly hire illegal workers -- but it is NOT enforced with the same enthusiasm is is shown by Sheriff Arpaio's immigrant sweeps. In fact, the law is pretty much ignored by the coppers and the local pro-business media -- because they don't want to ruffle the feathers of the ultra-conservative Arizona Republic newspaper and it's right-wing extremist "heroes".
What you've been seeing in the media is nothing more than the crazed responses of just about everybody -- because they don't know first-hand that this whole SB1070 thing is about driving Mexicans and other "potential Democrat votes" out of this state !!
And it's being done is such a way as to make it appear that it's all President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid that are to blame for everything. And there is a plenty of well-meaniung folks who have fell for this crap -- hook, line, and stinker !!
FACT;
Governor Jan Brewer told us she was going to see Obama to "make him do his job of enforcing our border". She delivered a hand-written request to President Obama for (ready!??) TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY (250) National Guardsmen to be placed along Arizona's Southern Border.
President Obama responded with more than TWICE as many troops as she asked for. FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOUR troops are now coming to our border !!

When the Employer Sanctions law was passed, TENS OF THOUSANDS of Mexicans and other Latino groups FLED THE AREA -- just as would be expected.
Crime here has been dropping steadily for the last 2 years -- but it's an election year, and the fear-mongers are doing their best to convince us that we're all gonna be over-run by illegal aliens if we don't vote for the anti-everything extremists that have become the Arizona Republican Party -- and the rest of the country is being dragged down to their level by the sensationalist (and very corporate) media.
It was NOT "Arizona" that "took this action" at all -- it was an out-of-state LAWYER that wrote SB1070, a Mormon Republican that sponsored the bill, and an UN-ELECTED Republican Governor who signed it into law while thousands of LEGAL CITIZENS protested in the streets.
Your assertion that "the citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal aliens" is just so much political hogwash -- our REAL problems stem from the political stranglehold that the Republican Party has placed on our state, and, with the help of the media corporations, they are spreading that same xenophobic hysteria across our entire nation.

If America was a human body, Arizona would be the rectum.
And it's our own fault for voting for Republicans in the first place !!

by: SlikLizrd

08-21-2010 @ 1:07am

Perhaps if you had lived and worked here in Phoenix for over 30 years, you'd be much less "conflicted".
You would have had the opportunity to see the "immigration issue" of today from a much more informed perspective.
Your notion that "too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence" is sheer hyperbole -- a nebulous statement that CANNOT be backed up with fact.
Those "horrid gangs" you speak of are NOT made up of nothing but illegal aliens, and it makes no sense for them to be lumped in with the immigrant laborers.
As you pointed out, illegals are victims of abusive and/or exploitative employers.
A law was passed in Arizona that punishes those employers who knowingly hire illegal workers -- but it is NOT enforced with the same enthusiasm is is shown by Sheriff Arpaio's immigrant sweeps. In fact, the law is pretty much ignored by the coppers and the local pro-business media -- because they don't want to ruffle the feathers of the ultra-conservative Arizona Republic newspaper and it's right-wing extremist "heroes".
What you've been seeing in the media is nothing more than the crazed responses of just about everybody -- because they don't know first-hand that this whole SB1070 thing is about driving Mexicans and other "potential Democrat votes" out of this state !!
And it's being done is such a way as to make it appear that it's all President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid that are to blame for everything. And there is a plenty of well-meaniung folks who have fell for this crap -- hook, line, and stinker !!
FACT;
Governor Jan Brewer told us she was going to see Obama to "make him do his job of enforcing our border". She delivered a hand-written request to President Obama for (ready!??) TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY (250) National Guardsmen to be placed along Arizona's Southern Border.
President Obama responded with more than TWICE as many troops as she asked for. FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOUR troops are now coming to our border !!

When the Employer Sanctions law was passed, TENS OF THOUSANDS of Mexicans and other Latino groups FLED THE AREA -- just as would be expected.
Crime here has been dropping steadily for the last 2 years -- but it's an election year, and the fear-mongers are doing their best to convince us that we're all gonna be over-run by illegal aliens if we don't vote for the anti-everything extremists that have become the Arizona Republican Party -- and the rest of the country is being dragged down to their level by the sensationalist (and very corporate) media.
It was NOT "Arizona" that "took this action" at all -- it was an out-of-state LAWYER that wrote SB1070, a Mormon Republican that sponsored the bill, and an UN-ELECTED Republican Governor who signed it into law while thousands of LEGAL CITIZENS protested in the streets.
Your assertion that "the citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal aliens" is just so much political hogwash -- our REAL problems stem from the political stranglehold that the Republican Party has placed on our state, and, with the help of the media corporations, they are spreading that same xenophobic hysteria across our entire nation.

If America was a human body, Arizona would be the rectum.
And it's our own fault for voting for Republicans in the first place !!

by: SlikLizrd

08-21-2010 @ 1:07am

Perhaps if you had lived and worked here in Phoenix for over 30 years, you'd be much less "conflicted".
You would have had the opportunity to see the "immigration issue" of today from a much more informed perspective.
Your notion that "too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence" is sheer hyperbole -- a nebulous statement that CANNOT be backed up with fact.
Those "horrid gangs" you speak of are NOT made up of nothing but illegal aliens, and it makes no sense for them to be lumped in with the immigrant laborers.
As you pointed out, illegals are victims of abusive and/or exploitative employers.
A law was passed in Arizona that punishes those employers who knowingly hire illegal workers -- but it is NOT enforced with the same enthusiasm is is shown by Sheriff Arpaio's immigrant sweeps. In fact, the law is pretty much ignored by the coppers and the local pro-business media -- because they don't want to ruffle the feathers of the ultra-conservative Arizona Republic newspaper and it's right-wing extremist "heroes".
What you've been seeing in the media is nothing more than the crazed responses of just about everybody -- because they don't know first-hand that this whole SB1070 thing is about driving Mexicans and other "potential Democrat votes" out of this state !!
And it's being done is such a way as to make it appear that it's all President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid that are to blame for everything. And there is a plenty of well-meaniung folks who have fell for this crap -- hook, line, and stinker !!
FACT;
Governor Jan Brewer told us she was going to see Obama to "make him do his job of enforcing our border". She delivered a hand-written request to President Obama for (ready!??) TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY (250) National Guardsmen to be placed along Arizona's Southern Border.
President Obama responded with more than TWICE as many troops as she asked for. FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOUR troops are now coming to our border !!

When the Employer Sanctions law was passed, TENS OF THOUSANDS of Mexicans and other Latino groups FLED THE AREA -- just as would be expected.
Crime here has been dropping steadily for the last 2 years -- but it's an election year, and the fear-mongers are doing their best to convince us that we're all gonna be over-run by illegal aliens if we don't vote for the anti-everything extremists that have become the Arizona Republican Party -- and the rest of the country is being dragged down to their level by the sensationalist (and very corporate) media.
It was NOT "Arizona" that "took this action" at all -- it was an out-of-state LAWYER that wrote SB1070, a Mormon Republican that sponsored the bill, and an UN-ELECTED Republican Governor who signed it into law while thousands of LEGAL CITIZENS protested in the streets.
Your assertion that "the citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal aliens" is just so much political hogwash -- our REAL problems stem from the political stranglehold that the Republican Party has placed on our state, and, with the help of the media corporations, they are spreading that same xenophobic hysteria across our entire nation.

If America was a human body, Arizona would be the rectum.
And it's our own fault for voting for Republicans in the first place !!

by: Steve Cagle

08-18-2010 @ 3:50pm

I am conflicted by the debate over immigration. On one hand, I understand the desperation of good, but poor, people to try and go where there is opportunity to better themselves and their family. On the other hand, a nation that cannot control its borders ceases to be a nation. Not all the people coming to the U.S. are good. Too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence. Horrid gangs like the Latin Kings, MS-13 and now, the drug cartels of Mexico are importing their brand of violence to the streets of the U.S.

Illegal immigrants are victims of abusive employers, not just the police. We must have a better way of allowing legal guest workers and permanent immigrants. If there are jobs that citizens don't want to do, perhaps it is because the wages offered don't match the job. Bringing in illegals who will work for pennies on the dollar hurts our citizens by driving down wages.

Arizona has taken this action because the Federal government has failed to enforce the laws it has a Constitutional duty to enforce. The citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal immigrants. Yes, some is xenophobia, but one can't ignore the negative impact caused by the failure to protect our borders.

by: Steve Cagle

08-18-2010 @ 3:50pm

I am conflicted by the debate over immigration. On one hand, I understand the desperation of good, but poor, people to try and go where there is opportunity to better themselves and their family. On the other hand, a nation that cannot control its borders ceases to be a nation. Not all the people coming to the U.S. are good. Too many of them are coming for the money earned of drugs and violence. Horrid gangs like the Latin Kings, MS-13 and now, the drug cartels of Mexico are importing their brand of violence to the streets of the U.S.

Illegal immigrants are victims of abusive employers, not just the police. We must have a better way of allowing legal guest workers and permanent immigrants. If there are jobs that citizens don't want to do, perhaps it is because the wages offered don't match the job. Bringing in illegals who will work for pennies on the dollar hurts our citizens by driving down wages.

Arizona has taken this action because the Federal government has failed to enforce the laws it has a Constitutional duty to enforce. The citizens of that state are frustrated with the very real problems they have with illegal immigrants. Yes, some is xenophobia, but one can't ignore the negative impact caused by the failure to protect our borders.

by: ontheruralroute

08-19-2010 @ 9:32pm

It has been said that taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society. A civilized society is built on a system of rules and regulations we refer to as laws. Our nation, like all others, has a set of laws which govern the process of immigrating. Just because individuals choose to break the laws by illegally circumventing the laws does not make the nation whose laws are being broken evil or racist or unchristian when it takes steps to enforce its laws. Even Christ taught us to "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's." Neither is it the duty of our nation to take in everyone who disagrees with aspects of the government of their nation of origin. Sooner or later they must stand against those policies, et cetra, they believe wrong. The founding of our nation was based upon that very principle.

by: thing1

08-20-2010 @ 4:45pm

Well done! That took the kind of guts that made this nation great.