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An Open Letter to Glenn Beck

Dear Glenn,

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I think we got off on the wrong foot. I listened to your speech last Saturday and heard a lot of things that we agree on. In fact, I have used some of the same language of our need to turn to God, and the values of "faith, hope, and charity" (love). What I would like to find out, and others would too, is what you mean by that language. Until last weekend, you have consistently described yourself primarily as an entertainer, and the public has known you as a talk show host. But last Saturday, you sounded more like an evangelist or revivalist on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. I know we disagree significantly on many issues of public policy, but you said that people can disagree on politics and still agree on basic values and try to come together. Maybe we should test that. Instead of my being up on your blackboard and a regular target of your show's rhetoric, why don't we finally have that civil dialogue I invited you to months ago? Your speech on the Mall suggested and even promised a change of heart on your part, so why don't we talk? Here are a few things I think we could talk about.

First, I've been asked by people in the media if it matters that you are a Mormon. I unequivocally answer, no, it does not. We don't want more anti-Mormon bigotry any more than we want the anti-Muslim bigotry now rising up across the country. By the way, you should speak to that (against it). On Saturday you talked about the fact that our nation has some scars in our past. I think one of those scars is the historical persecution and bigotry that many Mormons have faced, as well as Catholics, Jews, and Muslims. But, as you said, instead of dwelling on the bad things of the past, we need to learn from them and look to the future. The best way to do that is to make sure we all stand for religious liberty and tolerance, and are careful not to denigrate anybody else's faith tradition, experience, or language. If you are ever in need of an evangelical Christian to speak out against anti-Mormon sentiment directed at you or others, I am here to help.

In an interview the day after your rally you said that you would like to "amend" your statement in which you accused President Obama of being a racist and said he had a deep hatred in his heart for white people. I commend you for that. But a simple and straightforward apology would have been better. All of us say things we shouldn't sometimes, but you have consistently mischaracterized the President's faith. You also said in that interview that you would like to have a conversation about it. I'd like to do that.

I also think it would be a good thing to stop attacking people and churches you label as "social justice Christians," not just because I'm tired of being on your blackboard, but because I think you genuinely don't understand the concept and how central it is to biblical faith, and how essential to the whole gospel. I am sure there are those who have misused the term, just as there are those who will co-opt any good label that exists. If "social justice" were truly code for Communism or Marxism or Nazism, as you have suggested, I would be right beside you in condemning it.

In his opening sermon at Nazareth, Jesus gave his own mission statement when he declared, "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring good news to the poor, he has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor." Those were his very words, Glenn, including the stuff about releasing captives and freeing the oppressed-language you have been pretty critical of. In fact, the end of Jesus' famous sermon in Luke 4, about proclaiming "the year of the Lord's favor," was a direct reference, according to most biblical scholars, to the "year of Jubilee" in the Hebrew scriptures, which called for a periodic freeing of slaves, cancelling of debts, and returning land to original owners. It was written into the Torah as legal code and not just left up to individual charity. It was about "social justice" and even "redistribution" -- two of the least popular words on your show. You regularly criticize other people's "versions" of Christianity. How about Jesus' version of Christianity?

I thought you might be changing your own mind a bit when I heard you lifting up the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and associating yourself with him on the 47th anniversary of his eloquent "I Have a Dream" speech, given from the very place you stood on Saturday. I was encouraged by that because Dr. King was the archetypal social justice Christian and the primary teacher for many of us on the social implications of biblical faith. His personal faith led him to fight for racial and economic justice -- social justice. I hope you read many of his words before you spoke on the anniversary of his great speech, because we can't claim the mantle of King without also embracing his message. You seemed to affirm King's assertion that racism was not simply a private moral issue but one that required response through federal action and legislation. I'd like to talk with you about the rest of King's dream. If King was right about racism, could he have also been right about poverty and war? I didn't hear much about King's words on either of those issues in your speech on Saturday.

And let's talk about salvation. You have emphasized that you believe strongly in personal salvation, as opposed to "collective salvation." As an evangelical Christian, I also believe deeply in personal salvation-it is the foundation of my faith. But we need to ask ourselves, what are we saved for? Is salvation just about getting a pass into heaven? Is it just for us? Or is it also for the world, and being a part of God's work and purposes in the world today? When I read a passage like Matthew 25 or Amos 5, I believe it's clear that God won't hear my prayers if I don't care for the least of these, or I refuse justice to those in need. You spoke about charity at your rally on Saturday. Throughout the Old Testament it is clear that God requires compassion and charity from individuals, but God also requires justice from society. We agree that personal charity is important, but the God of the Bible is also a God of justice. His prophets regularly challenged the priorities, policies, and behavior of kings, rulers, employers, judges, and any leaders (including religious ones) who practiced injustice and robbed the poor of their dignity and rights. The leaders of his day were so upset with Jesus' challenge to their status quo that they killed him. Would they have been so threatened if Jesus was just asking people to be better persons and volunteer more often? Jesus announced the kingdom of God, which would change everything -- personally, spiritually, socially, economically, and even politically -- not with a new government or program, but with a new way of living that included both love and justice.

Before, I thought you were just another cable news talk show host. But now, you are using the language of a spiritual and even a religious leader. You acted as though you now want people to look to you for that kind of spiritual leadership. But to invoke the name of God and the vocation of a spiritual leader has consequences. It brings with it a whole new level of responsibility and accountability. It will require a more civil and even humble tone than you are used to. It will likely mean saying some different things and, certainly, saying many things differently than you have in the past. Pundits and talk show hosts say things that divide, create conflict, and get good ratings. They appeal more to fear than to hope. But spiritual leaders try to avoid vitriol and bombastic language, and to rather seek to find common ground and bring people together to find real solutions to real problems. So let's talk about that too.

You said your rally day was the start of the nation turning to God. Many people in this country have already done that and, in fact, try to do it every day. But maybe it was the start of Glenn Beck becoming a different kind of public voice than you have been before. I hope so. And one good way to demonstrate that is to agree to an honest and civil conversation with somebody you have often attacked. How about it, Glenn?

portrait-jim-wallisJim Wallis is the author of Rediscovering Values: On Wall Street, Main Street, and Your Street -- A Moral Compass for the New Economy, and CEO of Sojourners. He blogs at www.godspolitics.com.


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by: PhilipWayne

09-02-2010 @ 9:22pm

I find it interesting that so much attention is given to Glenn Beck while no one is talking or writing about the force behind his voice: Rupert Murdoch. Let no one forget that Beck is an employee of FOX "news," which like most other media outlets under Murdoch's control positions itself to suit the changing winds of politics. This is the same owner who supported Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair, and then switched to Cameron Brown. One could also protest that other news outlets are doing the same which is true in some cases. The cascading acquisitions of Murdoch, however, have become a monopoly in many ways in Australia, Great Britain, and the United States. His approach in the field of journalism has always been centered on sensationalism and a tabloid format. He is far more to be feared and refuted than Glenn Beck who is an entertainer and hired employee of the Murdoch empire that not only includes FOX news, but Direct TV, and now the revered Wall Street Journal. Such power is far more frightening to some as a means of instilling anxiety and fear in society than someone of the meager stature of a Glenn Beck. The real debate should be with Rupert Murdoch and those who misuse and manipulate media to influence positions that normally are driven by the lust for power, greed and self-gain.

by: BlueDeacon

09-03-2010 @ 9:44pm

Glenn Beck, does assume that since Mr. Obama spent the past 20 years in a liberation theology church that the President is a black liberation theology Christian and Mr. Beck does not agree with many of the tenants supposedly embraced by the kind of liberation theology preached by Jeremiah Wright and others.

Beck would do well to check the church's website and especially its "Black Value System," 90 percent of which he would agree with. He would also do well to visit Trinity UCC itself whenever he was in Chicago (and keep in mind that Wright for years hasn't been the pastor there) -- he would likely hear messages on self-reliance and hard work. I would surmise that Beck sees "black liberation theology" as a threat because, really, the last thing some folks want is for African-Americans to have real self-determination (because then they won't answer to them).

by: duhsciple

09-02-2010 @ 7:46pm

Thank you, Jim Wallis, for continuing to reach out and offer to have a face to face, heart to heart conversation with Glenn Beck. I hope he accepts! How might we extend grace to Glenn Beck so that he'll have nothing to fear, but realize we "social justice Christians" love others, even when they disagree with us? We seek the health and wholeness of all, not anything like the Nazi ideology. Let us meet together, unarmed and vulnerable around the Table.

by: Shadownfl

09-03-2010 @ 6:20pm

I am not at all a religious person, I am a self proclaimed Evangelical Agnostic. In fact when I hear the term "Evangelical Christian" I run as fast as possible in the opposite direction. I was brought up in a Roman Catholic home and attended a Catholic school (I have the scars to prove it) and what I got from that education was to be kind to all and help others no matter what their beliefs. But I must say that this letter has made me reassess my view of the term "Evangelical Christian". Jim Wallis' intelligence and respect in this letter impresses me and I am reading more of his writings. I love how he discusses God and religion without making it the "must have" point.

by: Patricia Collins

09-02-2010 @ 9:22pm

Dear Mr. Wallis,
Well you finally listened to the content of the rally on Saturday. The liberal media spouted off a lot of nonsense about what they assumed was said on that day. In your post you mention that Mr. Beck has attacked you. However, Mr. Beck is not the only one who has attacked. You have sent several emails to my personal email address attacking Mr. Beck and you have done it on your e-messages. I have been in "social justice" churches. It is not that we do not agree that the poor and suffering should be helped--it is just that we do not believe in abortion or gay marriage and we believe in capitalism. Other than that--we most likely believe in the same God. If a liberal were in need--I would not stop to ask them about their politics--I would lend a hand. If Christians would just focus on doing what Jesus said to do and stop looking at other people and criticizing. We conservatives do not like big government. Liberals will say that conservatives do not care about the needy. I disagree. We just don't want the government to take our income on the pretense that they are giving it to the poor. Why don't you and Mr. Beck sit down and talk privately? If you REALLY want to establish peace you will do this instead of putting something on a public forum so that you can prove that you are the good guy or that you are right.

by: Lisa Belise

09-03-2010 @ 9:34pm

According to Pew research poll in August (2010) 43% of Americans "don't know" what religion President Obama embraces, 34% say he is a Christian and 18% believe he is a Muslim.

Because until recently the President had not specifically stated which Church or religion he embraces currently, and having stopped attending his former church, a lot of people obviously aren't sure or don't care enough to find out. Glenn Beck wasn't sure either. But, since the President declared himself to be a Christian, Mr. Beck has chosen to take him at his word and will tell you that the President is a Christian. (the latest evidence that Beck believes this was presented during the first five minutes of his television show yesterday-9-2-10).

My point-Glenn Beck no longer says that Mr. Obama is a Muslim.

For what it's worth, news outlets have reported that there were Muslim leaders among the 240 religious clergy members who joined Glenn on stage last weekend both Friday and Saturday nights.

Glenn Beck, does assume that since Mr. Obama spent the past 20 years in a liberation theology church that the President is a black liberation theology Christian and Mr. Beck does not agree with many of the tenants supposedly embraced by the kind of liberation theology preached by Jeremiah Wright and others. He openly said that if he's wrong and liberation theology really doesn't teach those principles that he would like to know and then he would change his stance on it.

by: Josh

09-02-2010 @ 7:46pm

Dear Jim,

Instead of posting an "open letter" on your blog, whereupon Mr. Beck has been called everything from a liar to a false prophet, why don't you step up like a man and contact him in private?

You know, like a normal person would.

by: cheetah38

09-03-2010 @ 6:16pm

AlwaysTheHighRoad, Obama himself says that he's a Christian. Why shouldn't we believe him? Where's the proof that he's a "closet Muslim"? Even if he were a Muslim, why would he have to hide this info and what makes Beck more of an authority on Obama's faith than Obama?

If you're such an advocate for CHOICE (agency) what's wrong with chosing to be Muslim? I personally choose to be Christian but what

insures my CHOICE is the ability for others to choose as well.

I believe that Christ died to give us all the CHOICE between life eternal and death (separation from GOD). He didn't die to protect

the choice to hoard away that which belongs to GOD

(as everything does) from our fellow men.

by: believingliberatian

09-02-2010 @ 9:19pm

You're kidding right? Please tell me your kidding. You bust out the word Nazi right after the glowing, feel good words like 'grace', 'love', etc...You know the words that are designed to squelch substantive debate.

by: Klaxon

09-03-2010 @ 9:18pm

The sweet voice of reason and kindness often fails to penetrate. (I only read one page of comments, but am impressed by the civility of this site, FWIW.)

My personal take on Beck is that he is not sincere. It seems he does not understand or practice the religion he claims to follow.

Scott Peck has accurately described evil in his book, "People of the Lie". (I am a radical athiest, but Peck has much that is morally sound, and accurate, despite my disagreement about God.) Glen Beck seems to fit the profile, as to many in the "Do as I say, not as I do" group of evangelicals.

Beck is the big lie, popularized by Goebbels. It is effective propaganda, but very, very distant from the truth and a galaxy away from true good.

by: Patricia

09-02-2010 @ 7:41pm

Okay, for me, it's gotten to the point this week where the line between countering the lies and inconsistencies of Mr Beck and just providing more fertilizer for the temptation for "Christians" to be "jerks" to each other in this forum and providing Beck with unwarranted attention has most definitely been crossed...I'm done reading anything to do with Beck for now - enough already!

by: conradsteinhoff

09-03-2010 @ 9:01pm

Jim, this is just about the most near perfect piece of writing I have seen in quite a while. The message is exquisite, gentle, yet firm and clear on what Jesus calls us to be about. THanks, Jim, for all you do. I truly hope Glenn accepts your challenge to talk together.

by: duhsciple

09-03-2010 @ 8:57pm

Amen, sista! Keep reading the 1 Corinthians 13 chapter, "penned" in the context of a divided community, similar to what is breaking your heart now. Know that God's heart is also breaking with you now, yet one day an everlasting smile will dawn upon all of us.

by: lib76

09-07-2010 @ 11:51pm

"You see, in my church we educated ourselves as to what the poor really need rather than taking our cues from some think-tank or radio blowhard demonizing the poor."

I have been overly harsh here and I apologize for that. My last post wasn't meant to be patronizing at all and I am sorry if you took it that way but your comment just seemed unnecessary.

The program at the school I was talking about is run by a group of local business owners giving of their time. We do the leg work but they actually spend the day filling out critique sheets on the students to give them pointers and advice. The students sincerely appreciate the advice and it is helpful to them.

I think your characterization of "most evangelical" churches is wrong. I'm a fourth year teacher whose wife stays at home with our children. We scrape by month to month. We are doing better than many but we aren't living it up.

So what I was sincerely wanting to know in my earlier post was what exactly is your church doing that the rest of us can learn from and implement in our little corner.

by: Lurl

09-03-2010 @ 8:51pm

Very much so and a true believer.

by: BlueDeacon

09-02-2010 @ 8:17pm

1) He did.

2) Beck is a public figure who called out Wallis on his show.

by: Lisa Belise

09-03-2010 @ 9:49pm

"What's become obvious as of lately is exactly how insidious Beck's message can be."

Just exactly what is Beck's "insidious" message that needs to be countered?

by: kansasmennonite

09-07-2010 @ 11:56pm

I have seen your comments on "contacts" in numerous posts and think you're on the mark here. I know in my life I don't have the contacts necessary to get my sons jobs for the summer, etc. I think of my own jobs and most of them came to me because of my contacts, background, etc. When you don't have adequate contacts, jobs aren't going to come very easily (those without education especially). My son has filled out dozens of apps for summer jobs and not a one has called him back. (he's top of his class, clean, etc.). The days of filling out a job app, and getting a job are over. I can see how the inner city, minority are really hurt in this market. Thanks for telling us like it is.

by: Patricia

09-02-2010 @ 8:16pm

I don't think Mr Wallis is being cynical or mocking - it's just that 4 (I believe, so far) separate postings on Beck in the space of 2-3 days is just too much. If it were just Mr Wallis (with whom I agree on this, by the way), of just Valerie, or just one of the others, it would be different. I know Mr Wallis has offered to dialogue with Mr Beck on several occasions before, and Mr Beck always refuses...I don't see anything different happening this time (though I do know that with God, all things are possible - however improbable they may appear). It's just too much Beck for now for me.

by: Ken_Rieman

09-03-2010 @ 8:17pm

I, too, lament the level of vitriol in so much public discourse, especially in the commercial media. That said, I appreciate Jim Wallis' clear calling out of reprehensible behavior.

I disagree on 'condescending.' When I've heard Jim speak, I've seen the twinkle in the eye and the tongue in the cheek and think they usually represent restraint from the full expression of righteous indignation reasonable people must feel.

As wearying as this is, the struggle on behalf of tolerance and justice must not waver. The forces employing fear, anger, and prejudice are intent and deceptive. I don't see Glenn Beck suddenly warming to Jim Wallis.

I'm glad this letter is open because the conversations that count are happening everywhere and the voice of the Jesus I believe in has gotten drowned out by a few others.

Even Jesus sometimes took the gloves off. 'Brood of vipers' wouldn't likely have passed muster with the God's Politics 'Comment Code of Conduct.'

by: Stein

09-02-2010 @ 9:33pm

@believingliberatian: "My questions are simple:...Please answer these questions very simply...the answer is very simple you know."

You are right; the answers are indeed very simple. The moral basis is the bible's legal rules re. jubilee. There; wasn't that simple?

by: lib76

09-08-2010 @ 12:06am

I see this with my students right now in high school. They are looking but they are not finding anything. I agree with you that the contacts avenue is one problem but another problem I am sure I will get hammered for here is the minimum wage. Teenage unemployment is through the roof right now and it is even higher among minorities partly due to the recession alone and partly due to the increase in minimum wage as a recession hit.

by: Patricia

09-03-2010 @ 8:14pm

I guess I'm just having a hard time understanding a God who would create billions and billions of people throughout history who understand Her in a different way than Christians do, solely for the purposes of conversion in this life or eternal condemnation. If that's your God, I'm not interested.

God has many houses, and God will sort out whom will occupy those houses - that's not my job. I identify with Christianity. Others do not. I am not prepared to take a couple of isolated quotes from Scripture as license for me to judge where only God has the knowledge and authority to do so.

by: believingliberatian

09-02-2010 @ 9:28pm

You somehow wrap yourself in the mantle of higher morality by forcing others to fulfill your personal moral obligations, yet you criticize him for wrapping himself in a new and moral mantle. Interesting.

by: liberalinlove

09-03-2010 @ 8:13pm

You do realize that Glenn Beck accused me of being a Marxist and a Communitst. He admonished people to flee from me as a witness for Christ. He made it very clear that as a social justice Christian, I believed in the redistribution of wealth, which I do not. If for no other reason than to defend myself, I am entitled to judge wisely the words that come from his mouth.

As Paul admonished the church to judge any elder or deacon to be tested thoroughly in the church and make sure his home life was above reproach, and to insure the world thought of him well, we can admonish those who are believers to judge fruit for those who wish to lead us.

by: Jeff Wright

09-02-2010 @ 9:26pm

Agreed. The answer is because these are the tactics Wallis uses to get himself in front of cameras.

by: Lurl

09-03-2010 @ 8:10pm

If men could become pregnant ABORTION would become a national sacrament!!!!

by: billhabedank

09-02-2010 @ 9:26pm

Jim, I liked what you had to say to Mr. Beck. If you can get him to see that social justice is important to Christians, God Bless you.

If Mr. Beck can change then there is hope for this country and this world.

Peace be with you as well,

Bill

by: Lurl

09-03-2010 @ 8:06pm

If by destruction of the unborn..merely a small collection of cells...that could under no circumstances sustain life but could, perhaps become a potential human I am in full support of any woman who wishes to have an abortion.
The days are long gone when a woman must face having an unwanted child and wear her scarlet A whilst the man who is equally responsible for the possible production of a child runs away Scott free.

by: believingliberatian

09-02-2010 @ 9:25pm

I'll take Mr. Wallis on, and anyone else. My questions are simple:

1. On what moral basis do you forcibly take property from one person and give it to another.?
2. What moral check boxes or kudos do you give yourself for advocating a system where you force your neighbor to fulfill the moral obligation that you personally have?
3. What caused you to believe that you can live at the forced expense of your neighbor?

Please answer these questions very simply...the answer is very simple you know. I know its a lot to ask, and it will never happen, but no name calling please.

by: Neocon55

09-08-2010 @ 1:14am

So, you would give tribute to the Islamists that attacked us in 2001? How much can I put you down for?

by: liberalinlove

09-03-2010 @ 8:03pm

Isn't it cool you agree with Jim Wallis. He also doesn't believe we can condone the destruction of unborn babies.

by: believingliberatian

09-02-2010 @ 9:36pm

You personally have the right to bend your knee or not to God. God gives you that option (sovereignty debate not withstanding). God deals with us individually and holds us to account individually, but works with us as the body of Christ. How are we to do life with an unbeliever? By forcing him to live by Christian morals? By forcing them to love his neighbor? By taking his property and giving it to the poor? By forcing him to live by your 'social justice'? Why are we as Christians so bent on dulling the stark contrast that the gospel brings by making everyone else into Christian-lites?

by: Steve Broome

09-02-2010 @ 8:40pm

I find the evangelical Christian idea of personal salvation to be a distraction here. It seems to be another uniquely American individualistic addition to the Bible and the Christian faith.

The word "personal" does not even appear in the Bible. God calls and saves people as persons, certainly, but not always as individuals. Our linkage with our community of faith and family are crucial to our identity and affect our destiny, too. The Bible is jam-ful of examples: the children of Abraham, the deliverance of Noah and his family (all 8 of them, not just his wife), even though only Noah believed in God. When God says, "Hear O Israel" is God really addressing only one guy, Jacob, and him long dead? Surely that was an address to the nation which we Christians understand as addressing us, too. The feeding of the 5,000 was a personal experience for everyone in the crowd, but it was quite a crowd. And the Holy Spirit is often given to whole groups of people, from the apostles in John 12 to the group who were all together in the upper room on the birthday of the church, men and women and probably children, too, who were led to proclaim Christ as Lord... on down to the church today. We are called and baptized into Christian communities, not solitary meditation chambers.

We are part of the Body of Christ, the communion of saints, without losing our individuality, but also without needing to over-emphasize it. God places us in family and community and nation, we are given sufficient compassion to realize that, as long as the national economy isn't working for you, it isn't working for me either.

by: wood0742

09-02-2010 @ 9:34pm

God does not need to engage in politics or childish repartees between idiots. Glenn Beck and people like him, such as Jim Wallis, obviously do - in a very unsophisticated way, unfortunately. Jim Wallis has made me ashamed that I ever even considered being a part of Sojourners,

As long as Sojourners continues to legitamize Glenn Beck by even responding to him (or trying to be a political entity), I will refrain from receiving any more of Sojourner's emails and refrain from responding to any Sojourner "call to action." I am truly taken abck by the insecurity and lack of sophistication shown by Jim Wallis, who seems to think he has to respond to the insults of people who have no bearing on the interests, or claimed interests, of the Sojourner's organization - which I took to be apolitical when I joined but have since learned that Jim Wallis, et. al., is just as stupidly political as idiots like Glenn Beck and definitely has stronger political aspirations than he has religious aspirations. It seems to me that one side is as sacreligious as the other, and both sides of this repartee should be ashamed of themselves for taking part in such a childishly idiotic politically inept repartee - just like adolescents!!!

Timothy E. Wood

Wood0742@peoplepc.com

by: BlueDeacon

09-09-2010 @ 6:40pm

You're busted.

by: kristinemsmith

09-02-2010 @ 8:36pm

I am praying that Glenn Beck will accept... but am not holding my breath because I don't think he would ever risk becoming THAT humble on this side of the great divide.

by: BlueDeacon

09-09-2010 @ 6:40pm

Cease and desist -- hacker.

by: Josh

09-02-2010 @ 8:34pm

In reply to BlueDeacon:

My comments were directed to Mr. Wallis, not to you. I have no interest in having a conversation with you. Please don't speak to me again.

by: Kevin L. Brown

09-02-2010 @ 9:38pm

There is hope for Glenn Beck - as there is hope for all of us. Let us continue to pray for him (as many likely prayed for Saul).

by: BlueDeacon

09-08-2010 @ 1:49am

I think your characterization of "most evangelical" churches is wrong.

Where I live, however, that's certainly the case. Here few evangelical churches (which, because we tend to be quite conservative with our religion, represents possibly even the majority) are too remote from the need and too small to do anything about it anyway. Anyway, priority 1 is to listen to the voices of the dispossessed -- they will tell you what needs to be changed.

by: BlueDeacon

09-09-2010 @ 6:29pm

What I mean is, charity is worthless without changing the system. Charity makes people dependent on the charitable. Great Society programs, in truth, don't do that. These efforts liberate people from being dependent. A brief look at the historical record will show this to be true.

by: Sin_Boldly

09-02-2010 @ 8:28pm

Sorry that this was not originally shown as reply to you, Patricia. I am technologically challenged on most days.

I understand completely. As Mr. Beck has wrapped himself in a new and higher moral mantle, maybe he will rise to the occasion (or rather position of influence) and join in a true conversation. It would be refreshing and would go a distance in restoring (at least mine) faith in the goodness and perfectibility of man.

by: believingliberatian

09-02-2010 @ 9:38pm

So how did you come to the belief that the bible advocates forcibly taking property from one person and giving it to another? Do you actually think it makes Christ smile by you forcibly taking property from your neighbor and giving it to others as you see fit?

by: BlueDeacon

09-09-2010 @ 6:26pm

You don't know what you're talking about. In truth, Glenn Beck is wrong and so are his listeners.

by: Sin_Boldly

09-02-2010 @ 8:25pm

I understand completely. As Mr. Beck has wrapped himself in a new and higher moral mantle, maybe he will rise to the occasion (or rather position of influence) and join in a true conversation. It would be refreshing and would go a distance in restoring (at least mine) faith in the goodness and perfectibility of man.

by: duellsjeln

09-02-2010 @ 9:53pm

Bravo, Jim Wallis! I think an open letter was just the right way to reply to a man who has been attacking you from the television screen. Your letter was well stated, thoughtfully written, and I hope Glen Beck agrees to a meeting for civil discourse. Maybe Bill Moyers could come back and monitor the meeting. I have never seen Glen Beck's show and I don't plan to; I subscribe to Sojourners Magazine and have been a "social justice" activist and committed to Jesus' teachings all my life. I'm in this with you all the way!

by: believingliberatian

09-02-2010 @ 9:52pm

Go tell your pagan neighbor about Jubilee and tell him that he will have to abide by it under threat of fine or imprisonment.

Next.

by: SamHamilton

09-03-2010 @ 10:41pm

I'm sure that's part of it too, Lisa. Everyone needs an enemy with a face.

by: BlueDeacon

09-08-2010 @ 2:28am

Compared to the actual payroll, I wouldn't quite blame a hike in the minimum wage for that. After all, when people make more money they tend to spend it.

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by: Patricia

09-02-2010 @ 7:41pm

Okay, for me, it's gotten to the point this week where the line between countering the lies and inconsistencies of Mr Beck and just providing more fertilizer for the temptation for "Christians" to be "jerks" to each other in this forum and providing Beck with unwarranted attention has most definitely been crossed...I'm done reading anything to do with Beck for now - enough already!

by: Patricia

09-02-2010 @ 7:41pm

Okay, for me, it's gotten to the point this week where the line between countering the lies and inconsistencies of Mr Beck and just providing more fertilizer for the temptation for "Christians" to be "jerks" to each other in this forum and providing Beck with unwarranted attention has most definitely been crossed...I'm done reading anything to do with Beck for now - enough already!

by: Josh

09-02-2010 @ 7:46pm

Dear Jim,

Instead of posting an "open letter" on your blog, whereupon Mr. Beck has been called everything from a liar to a false prophet, why don't you step up like a man and contact him in private?

You know, like a normal person would.

by: Josh

09-02-2010 @ 7:46pm

Dear Jim,

Instead of posting an "open letter" on your blog, whereupon Mr. Beck has been called everything from a liar to a false prophet, why don't you step up like a man and contact him in private?

You know, like a normal person would.

by: duhsciple

09-02-2010 @ 7:46pm

Thank you, Jim Wallis, for continuing to reach out and offer to have a face to face, heart to heart conversation with Glenn Beck. I hope he accepts! How might we extend grace to Glenn Beck so that he'll have nothing to fear, but realize we "social justice Christians" love others, even when they disagree with us? We seek the health and wholeness of all, not anything like the Nazi ideology. Let us meet together, unarmed and vulnerable around the Table.

by: duhsciple

09-02-2010 @ 7:46pm

Thank you, Jim Wallis, for continuing to reach out and offer to have a face to face, heart to heart conversation with Glenn Beck. I hope he accepts! How might we extend grace to Glenn Beck so that he'll have nothing to fear, but realize we "social justice Christians" love others, even when they disagree with us? We seek the health and wholeness of all, not anything like the Nazi ideology. Let us meet together, unarmed and vulnerable around the Table.

by: liberalinlove

09-02-2010 @ 7:50pm

Blessed are the peacemakers. I hope the extended hand bears fruit.

by: liberalinlove

09-02-2010 @ 7:50pm

Blessed are the peacemakers. I hope the extended hand bears fruit.

by: Sin_Boldly

09-02-2010 @ 7:57pm

Is Wallis addressing Beck cynically and mockingly? Maybe. But perhaps we should give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is responding as gently as possible to Beck's appearance this past weekend, considering Beck's usually caustic and jolting media persona.

I, for one, would welcome a conversation. It seems all we get from the propositional right and left are higher and higher ramparts from which to snipe at their opponents.

"Our Father...thy kingdom come..., on earth...."

by: Sin_Boldly

09-02-2010 @ 7:57pm

Is Wallis addressing Beck cynically and mockingly? Maybe. But perhaps we should give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is responding as gently as possible to Beck's appearance this past weekend, considering Beck's usually caustic and jolting media persona.

I, for one, would welcome a conversation. It seems all we get from the propositional right and left are higher and higher ramparts from which to snipe at their opponents.

"Our Father...thy kingdom come..., on earth...."

by: Patricia

09-02-2010 @ 8:16pm

I don't think Mr Wallis is being cynical or mocking - it's just that 4 (I believe, so far) separate postings on Beck in the space of 2-3 days is just too much. If it were just Mr Wallis (with whom I agree on this, by the way), of just Valerie, or just one of the others, it would be different. I know Mr Wallis has offered to dialogue with Mr Beck on several occasions before, and Mr Beck always refuses...I don't see anything different happening this time (though I do know that with God, all things are possible - however improbable they may appear). It's just too much Beck for now for me.

by: Patricia

09-02-2010 @ 8:16pm

I don't think Mr Wallis is being cynical or mocking - it's just that 4 (I believe, so far) separate postings on Beck in the space of 2-3 days is just too much. If it were just Mr Wallis (with whom I agree on this, by the way), of just Valerie, or just one of the others, it would be different. I know Mr Wallis has offered to dialogue with Mr Beck on several occasions before, and Mr Beck always refuses...I don't see anything different happening this time (though I do know that with God, all things are possible - however improbable they may appear). It's just too much Beck for now for me.

by: BlueDeacon

09-02-2010 @ 8:17pm

1) He did.

2) Beck is a public figure who called out Wallis on his show.

by: BlueDeacon

09-02-2010 @ 8:17pm

1) He did.

2) Beck is a public figure who called out Wallis on his show.

by: Sin_Boldly

09-02-2010 @ 8:25pm

I understand completely. As Mr. Beck has wrapped himself in a new and higher moral mantle, maybe he will rise to the occasion (or rather position of influence) and join in a true conversation. It would be refreshing and would go a distance in restoring (at least mine) faith in the goodness and perfectibility of man.

by: Sin_Boldly

09-02-2010 @ 8:25pm

I understand completely. As Mr. Beck has wrapped himself in a new and higher moral mantle, maybe he will rise to the occasion (or rather position of influence) and join in a true conversation. It would be refreshing and would go a distance in restoring (at least mine) faith in the goodness and perfectibility of man.

by: Sin_Boldly

09-02-2010 @ 8:28pm

Sorry that this was not originally shown as reply to you, Patricia. I am technologically challenged on most days.

I understand completely. As Mr. Beck has wrapped himself in a new and higher moral mantle, maybe he will rise to the occasion (or rather position of influence) and join in a true conversation. It would be refreshing and would go a distance in restoring (at least mine) faith in the goodness and perfectibility of man.

by: Sin_Boldly

09-02-2010 @ 8:28pm

Sorry that this was not originally shown as reply to you, Patricia. I am technologically challenged on most days.

I understand completely. As Mr. Beck has wrapped himself in a new and higher moral mantle, maybe he will rise to the occasion (or rather position of influence) and join in a true conversation. It would be refreshing and would go a distance in restoring (at least mine) faith in the goodness and perfectibility of man.

by: Josh

09-02-2010 @ 8:34pm

In reply to BlueDeacon:

My comments were directed to Mr. Wallis, not to you. I have no interest in having a conversation with you. Please don't speak to me again.

by: Josh

09-02-2010 @ 8:34pm

In reply to BlueDeacon:

My comments were directed to Mr. Wallis, not to you. I have no interest in having a conversation with you. Please don't speak to me again.

by: kristinemsmith

09-02-2010 @ 8:36pm

I am praying that Glenn Beck will accept... but am not holding my breath because I don't think he would ever risk becoming THAT humble on this side of the great divide.

by: kristinemsmith

09-02-2010 @ 8:36pm

I am praying that Glenn Beck will accept... but am not holding my breath because I don't think he would ever risk becoming THAT humble on this side of the great divide.

by: Steve Broome

09-02-2010 @ 8:40pm

I find the evangelical Christian idea of personal salvation to be a distraction here. It seems to be another uniquely American individualistic addition to the Bible and the Christian faith.

The word "personal" does not even appear in the Bible. God calls and saves people as persons, certainly, but not always as individuals. Our linkage with our community of faith and family are crucial to our identity and affect our destiny, too. The Bible is jam-ful of examples: the children of Abraham, the deliverance of Noah and his family (all 8 of them, not just his wife), even though only Noah believed in God. When God says, "Hear O Israel" is God really addressing only one guy, Jacob, and him long dead? Surely that was an address to the nation which we Christians understand as addressing us, too. The feeding of the 5,000 was a personal experience for everyone in the crowd, but it was quite a crowd. And the Holy Spirit is often given to whole groups of people, from the apostles in John 12 to the group who were all together in the upper room on the birthday of the church, men and women and probably children, too, who were led to proclaim Christ as Lord... on down to the church today. We are called and baptized into Christian communities, not solitary meditation chambers.

We are part of the Body of Christ, the communion of saints, without losing our individuality, but also without needing to over-emphasize it. God places us in family and community and nation, we are given sufficient compassion to realize that, as long as the national economy isn't working for you, it isn't working for me either.

by: Steve Broome

09-02-2010 @ 8:40pm

I find the evangelical Christian idea of personal salvation to be a distraction here. It seems to be another uniquely American individualistic addition to the Bible and the Christian faith.

The word "personal" does not even appear in the Bible. God calls and saves people as persons, certainly, but not always as individuals. Our linkage with our community of faith and family are crucial to our identity and affect our destiny, too. The Bible is jam-ful of examples: the children of Abraham, the deliverance of Noah and his family (all 8 of them, not just his wife), even though only Noah believed in God. When God says, "Hear O Israel" is God really addressing only one guy, Jacob, and him long dead? Surely that was an address to the nation which we Christians understand as addressing us, too. The feeding of the 5,000 was a personal experience for everyone in the crowd, but it was quite a crowd. And the Holy Spirit is often given to whole groups of people, from the apostles in John 12 to the group who were all together in the upper room on the birthday of the church, men and women and probably children, too, who were led to proclaim Christ as Lord... on down to the church today. We are called and baptized into Christian communities, not solitary meditation chambers.

We are part of the Body of Christ, the communion of saints, without losing our individuality, but also without needing to over-emphasize it. God places us in family and community and nation, we are given sufficient compassion to realize that, as long as the national economy isn't working for you, it isn't working for me either.

by: jengaa

09-02-2010 @ 8:47pm

Excellent excellent post!!!!! Thank you for the words to express what I've been feeling and thinking. I hope he takes you up on a conversation. AMEN many times over!!!

by: jengaa

09-02-2010 @ 8:47pm

Excellent excellent post!!!!! Thank you for the words to express what I've been feeling and thinking. I hope he takes you up on a conversation. AMEN many times over!!!

by: jla45

09-02-2010 @ 8:50pm

Your letter to Mr. Beck was well done. Is it possible for 1000's of us to sign onto your words, much as we did about the social justice issue. I grew up in a Republican household and voted a pretty straight ticket until I was about 30 whereupon the positions the Republican Party were taking and policies they pursued came into conflict with my growing understanding of the message of Jesus the Christ which is to love God and each other, feed the hungry, and clothe the poor. I ceased to be able to see how the policies and practices of the Republican Party reflect that message. It seems that the basics tenets of what they practice are based on abortion, gay marriage, and the rights of citizens to keep what they see as theirs as individuals (money, gun rights, property) more important than the well being of the "community" as a whole. We are, the UNITED States, a co-mingling-united, in the interests of the union as a whole. In the 1860s a terribly devestating war took place as different parts and our nation nearly destroyed itself. It was that great Republican leader, Abraham Lincoln, who steadfastly held to the principle that a "house divided within itself cannot long survive." We seem to be in a civil war mode over issues of the spirit. Did we learn nothing? How can we expect and hope to lead other nations to work together to solve problems (eg Israel & Palestine, war lord factions in Afghanistan, Sunis and Shi'ites) when we cannot do it ourselves in what we have believed to be the most effective government and political system in history? We don't have to agree on everything but we need to work to achieve workable compromises with civility and respect.

by: jla45

09-02-2010 @ 8:50pm

Your letter to Mr. Beck was well done. Is it possible for 1000's of us to sign onto your words, much as we did about the social justice issue. I grew up in a Republican household and voted a pretty straight ticket until I was about 30 whereupon the positions the Republican Party were taking and policies they pursued came into conflict with my growing understanding of the message of Jesus the Christ which is to love God and each other, feed the hungry, and clothe the poor. I ceased to be able to see how the policies and practices of the Republican Party reflect that message. It seems that the basics tenets of what they practice are based on abortion, gay marriage, and the rights of citizens to keep what they see as theirs as individuals (money, gun rights, property) more important than the well being of the "community" as a whole. We are, the UNITED States, a co-mingling-united, in the interests of the union as a whole. In the 1860s a terribly devestating war took place as different parts and our nation nearly destroyed itself. It was that great Republican leader, Abraham Lincoln, who steadfastly held to the principle that a "house divided within itself cannot long survive." We seem to be in a civil war mode over issues of the spirit. Did we learn nothing? How can we expect and hope to lead other nations to work together to solve problems (eg Israel & Palestine, war lord factions in Afghanistan, Sunis and Shi'ites) when we cannot do it ourselves in what we have believed to be the most effective government and political system in history? We don't have to agree on everything but we need to work to achieve workable compromises with civility and respect.

by: Grover Randle

09-02-2010 @ 8:56pm

Jim:
I applaud you article on Mr. Beck. I personally find much of what he says on his television show offensive and enlarging the problems rather contributing to problem solutions. My biggest problem with his recent gathering on the mall in Washington DC is his hypocrisy when matched against the hurtful and harmful words he "screams" on TV. He has a platform on TV that he uses for his own fame and personal $profit$, with what I view as very little accountability to the concept of civil discourse.
The person, in the comment above, who suggested that you should have taken you comments directly to Mr. Beck, I think is a little naive about how Mr. Beck works.
One of the big problems we face in the USA is that we shout about our founding principles (like the freedom of religion), but are quick to ask others to compromise when their practice of that fundamental freedom, causes us a little discomfort. i.e. sacrifice is good as long as it is the other person who is making the sacrifice or being a little uncomfortable. We shot about being Christian, but don't really read our Bibles and frequently fail to ask ourselves: Is what we are doing, what Jesus would do?

by: Grover Randle

09-02-2010 @ 8:56pm

Jim:
I applaud you article on Mr. Beck. I personally find much of what he says on his television show offensive and enlarging the problems rather contributing to problem solutions. My biggest problem with his recent gathering on the mall in Washington DC is his hypocrisy when matched against the hurtful and harmful words he "screams" on TV. He has a platform on TV that he uses for his own fame and personal $profit$, with what I view as very little accountability to the concept of civil discourse.
The person, in the comment above, who suggested that you should have taken you comments directly to Mr. Beck, I think is a little naive about how Mr. Beck works.
One of the big problems we face in the USA is that we shout about our founding principles (like the freedom of religion), but are quick to ask others to compromise when their practice of that fundamental freedom, causes us a little discomfort. i.e. sacrifice is good as long as it is the other person who is making the sacrifice or being a little uncomfortable. We shot about being Christian, but don't really read our Bibles and frequently fail to ask ourselves: Is what we are doing, what Jesus would do?

by: Mitchcarnell

09-02-2010 @ 8:56pm

We need serious dialogue. Words have consequences. All Christians should guard their language. There is no requirement that we agree with one another. There is a requirement that we respect one another since we have the same spiritual father. As we are seeing in actions all across our country the rhetoric of hate is leading to violence. Many are ready to give up our religious freedome that others fought so long and hard to obtain. It is time for a pause in the hate speech. It is time to sit down and reason together.

by: Mitchcarnell

09-02-2010 @ 8:56pm

We need serious dialogue. Words have consequences. All Christians should guard their language. There is no requirement that we agree with one another. There is a requirement that we respect one another since we have the same spiritual father. As we are seeing in actions all across our country the rhetoric of hate is leading to violence. Many are ready to give up our religious freedome that others fought so long and hard to obtain. It is time for a pause in the hate speech. It is time to sit down and reason together.

by: bacnard

09-02-2010 @ 8:57pm

Don't be ridiculous. Beck attacks anyone and everyone he chooses publicly and is never a "man" about it. In fact, the letter makes clear that the author has attempted to address his concerns with Beck.

by: bacnard

09-02-2010 @ 8:57pm

Don't be ridiculous. Beck attacks anyone and everyone he chooses publicly and is never a "man" about it. In fact, the letter makes clear that the author has attempted to address his concerns with Beck.

by: bacnard

09-02-2010 @ 9:04pm

Hmm. If you wanted a private conversation with the author you could have found a way to contact him privately. You posted on a public discussion forum, and your post was clearly intended to denigrate the author. Whether you like it or not, others may respond to your post as they see fit.

by: bacnard

09-02-2010 @ 9:04pm

Hmm. If you wanted a private conversation with the author you could have found a way to contact him privately. You posted on a public discussion forum, and your post was clearly intended to denigrate the author. Whether you like it or not, others may respond to your post as they see fit.

by: Lurl

09-02-2010 @ 9:08pm

I do wish you would stop the attacks upon Dr. Beck. He has shown that his religion is the new religion for the world. His church is the fastest growing church in the world. Obviously he is a man who follows God and the Jesus. Obviously he is more Christian than most. He is a bringer of peace and along with Dr. Alveda King and Gov. Sarah Palin have turned this nation around showing what individual salvation is all about.
Afterall, Dr. Beck has held in his very own hands the writings of George Washington.

by: Lurl

09-02-2010 @ 9:08pm

I do wish you would stop the attacks upon Dr. Beck. He has shown that his religion is the new religion for the world. His church is the fastest growing church in the world. Obviously he is a man who follows God and the Jesus. Obviously he is more Christian than most. He is a bringer of peace and along with Dr. Alveda King and Gov. Sarah Palin have turned this nation around showing what individual salvation is all about.
Afterall, Dr. Beck has held in his very own hands the writings of George Washington.

by: Cynthia

09-02-2010 @ 9:11pm

This is my first visit to this blog and I liked what you had to say...all haters please stop hating. God is Love and here, on this blog of all places, I really expected to find more of that sentiment. Peace, Cynthia

by: Cynthia

09-02-2010 @ 9:11pm

This is my first visit to this blog and I liked what you had to say...all haters please stop hating. God is Love and here, on this blog of all places, I really expected to find more of that sentiment. Peace, Cynthia

by: Lurl

09-02-2010 @ 9:11pm

I do wish you would stop the attacks upon Dr. Beck. He has shown that his religion is the new religion for the world. His church is the fastest growing church in the world. Obviously he is a man who follows God and the Jesus. Obviously he is more Christian than most. He is a bringer of peace and along with Dr. Alveda King and Gov. Sarah Palin have turned this nation around showing what individual salvation is all about.
Afterall, Dr. Beck has held in his very own hands the writings of George Washington.

by: Lurl

09-02-2010 @ 9:11pm

I do wish you would stop the attacks upon Dr. Beck. He has shown that his religion is the new religion for the world. His church is the fastest growing church in the world. Obviously he is a man who follows God and the Jesus. Obviously he is more Christian than most. He is a bringer of peace and along with Dr. Alveda King and Gov. Sarah Palin have turned this nation around showing what individual salvation is all about.
Afterall, Dr. Beck has held in his very own hands the writings of George Washington.

by: epillard

09-02-2010 @ 9:16pm

Why doesn't Jim just stick to his issues and ignore Beck. Will he change his mind? The more magazine covers, open letters, blogs, etc. just gets Beck out there more. Why can't we just accept Beck's views like one can accept muslim, hinduism, catholics, methodists, etc. and keep on going forward with the message that Sojo wants to put out.

by: epillard

09-02-2010 @ 9:16pm

Why doesn't Jim just stick to his issues and ignore Beck. Will he change his mind? The more magazine covers, open letters, blogs, etc. just gets Beck out there more. Why can't we just accept Beck's views like one can accept muslim, hinduism, catholics, methodists, etc. and keep on going forward with the message that Sojo wants to put out.

by: Jeff Wright

09-02-2010 @ 9:18pm

Another condescending, hypocritical, pot-stirring post from Jim Wallis begging Glenn Beck to allow him to ride Beck's coattails into the large media spotlight Wallis so desperately craves in order to appear relevant. Why would Beck grant this and give Wallis the attention he craves? Allowing Wallis to have a "discussion" with a fellow small-time provocateur would be more appropriate.

This quote was amazing: "But a simple and straightforward apology would have been better." This from the man who couldn't bring himself to do the same thing with Marvin Olasky? Who chose to give a prevaricating half-apology which he used as a cover to lob another insult at Beck? Unreal.

"But spiritual leaders try to avoid vitriol and bombastic language, and to rather seek to find common ground and bring people together to find real solutions to real problems."

Language such as "Glenn Beck lies for a living?" Mr. Wallis, when you find a leader like that, let Glenn Beck know so he can go have this discussion with him.

by: Jeff Wright

09-02-2010 @ 9:18pm

Another condescending, hypocritical, pot-stirring post from Jim Wallis begging Glenn Beck to allow him to ride Beck's coattails into the large media spotlight Wallis so desperately craves in order to appear relevant. Why would Beck grant this and give Wallis the attention he craves? Allowing Wallis to have a "discussion" with a fellow small-time provocateur would be more appropriate.

This quote was amazing: "But a simple and straightforward apology would have been better." This from the man who couldn't bring himself to do the same thing with Marvin Olasky? Who chose to give a prevaricating half-apology which he used as a cover to lob another insult at Beck? Unreal.

"But spiritual leaders try to avoid vitriol and bombastic language, and to rather seek to find common ground and bring people together to find real solutions to real problems."

Language such as "Glenn Beck lies for a living?" Mr. Wallis, when you find a leader like that, let Glenn Beck know so he can go have this discussion with him.

by: believingliberatian

09-02-2010 @ 9:19pm

You're kidding right? Please tell me your kidding. You bust out the word Nazi right after the glowing, feel good words like 'grace', 'love', etc...You know the words that are designed to squelch substantive debate.

by: believingliberatian

09-02-2010 @ 9:19pm

You're kidding right? Please tell me your kidding. You bust out the word Nazi right after the glowing, feel good words like 'grace', 'love', etc...You know the words that are designed to squelch substantive debate.

by: Patricia Collins

09-02-2010 @ 9:22pm

Dear Mr. Wallis,
Well you finally listened to the content of the rally on Saturday. The liberal media spouted off a lot of nonsense about what they assumed was said on that day. In your post you mention that Mr. Beck has attacked you. However, Mr. Beck is not the only one who has attacked. You have sent several emails to my personal email address attacking Mr. Beck and you have done it on your e-messages. I have been in "social justice" churches. It is not that we do not agree that the poor and suffering should be helped--it is just that we do not believe in abortion or gay marriage and we believe in capitalism. Other than that--we most likely believe in the same God. If a liberal were in need--I would not stop to ask them about their politics--I would lend a hand. If Christians would just focus on doing what Jesus said to do and stop looking at other people and criticizing. We conservatives do not like big government. Liberals will say that conservatives do not care about the needy. I disagree. We just don't want the government to take our income on the pretense that they are giving it to the poor. Why don't you and Mr. Beck sit down and talk privately? If you REALLY want to establish peace you will do this instead of putting something on a public forum so that you can prove that you are the good guy or that you are right.

by: Patricia Collins

09-02-2010 @ 9:22pm

Dear Mr. Wallis,
Well you finally listened to the content of the rally on Saturday. The liberal media spouted off a lot of nonsense about what they assumed was said on that day. In your post you mention that Mr. Beck has attacked you. However, Mr. Beck is not the only one who has attacked. You have sent several emails to my personal email address attacking Mr. Beck and you have done it on your e-messages. I have been in "social justice" churches. It is not that we do not agree that the poor and suffering should be helped--it is just that we do not believe in abortion or gay marriage and we believe in capitalism. Other than that--we most likely believe in the same God. If a liberal were in need--I would not stop to ask them about their politics--I would lend a hand. If Christians would just focus on doing what Jesus said to do and stop looking at other people and criticizing. We conservatives do not like big government. Liberals will say that conservatives do not care about the needy. I disagree. We just don't want the government to take our income on the pretense that they are giving it to the poor. Why don't you and Mr. Beck sit down and talk privately? If you REALLY want to establish peace you will do this instead of putting something on a public forum so that you can prove that you are the good guy or that you are right.